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magpwr

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #390 on: May 01, 2014, 04:17:14 AM »
I have 510 picoFarads.

Current schematic:

hi TinselKoala,

I just saw the latest version of schematic you posted this morning.

The version i was trying to convey to you last night-The "Led needs to be connected to resistor in series" then connect in parallel with 1000uf capacitor.

Looking at this version of schematic and zooming into the role of I/C:4069 which is used merely to invert signal from one of the gates.

I am just thinking if using 2n3906 or any high hfe pnp  transistor to do the same job of inverting signal to npn transistor .For my case for npn transistor it would be tip31c or BDX34 (A...C).
 
 



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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #391 on: May 01, 2014, 04:31:27 AM »
hi TinselKoala,

I just saw the latest version of schematic you posted this morning.

The version i was trying to convey to you last night-The "Led needs to be connected to resistor in series" then connect in parallel with 1000uf capacitor.

Looking at this version of schematic and zooming into the role of I/C:4069 which is used merely to invert signal from one of the gates.

I am just thinking if using 2n3906 or any high hfe pnp  transistor to do the same job of inverting signal to npn transistor .For my case for npn transistor it would be tip31c or BDX34 (A...C).

Aahh... I drew the schematic wrong. The capacitor is tied to ground, so it is wired as you say, not as I have in the schematic, if I am understanding you. I'll have to change the graphic right away. I just put it into a new video, too. Gaaahhhh, there is always a typo somewhere. Thanks for pointing it out.

Sure, a transistor makes more sense than using a single gate of a hex inverter. But the earlier version that Akula posted of this schematic, and maybe a device, had all the gates being used to light up a couple more LEDs, and so the inverter chip is a "legacy" leftover from that. Even though those LEDs don't really participate in the "free energy" part of the circuit. So he cut them out of the schematic.

By the way, I am trying to track down the person who drew up the schematic I am using and posting, to thank him or her. I see, I think, that it was first posted here by 4Tesla, and carries the name of Vadik Guk. I know it was added to a bit by verpies, and I've posted my own changes and values into it as well. I really would like to give credit to everyone who helped make that schematic image.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #392 on: May 01, 2014, 04:39:48 AM »
In the closeup below you can see the three elevated pads for the LEDs. The black cylinder is the 1000 uF cap, its negative lead is soldered to the ground plane and the red wire is its positive lead, going to the Anode pad of the Blue LED. The Cathode pad of the White LED is connected to the 220R which is then connected to the ground plane. So I got the wiring right but the schematic insert wrong.

I tried the 220R but I think I'll go back to the 100R.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #393 on: May 01, 2014, 05:10:25 AM »
The schematic was derived by a couple of fellows at Overunityresearch, I may not be at liberty to post their detailed work. I will check in with them, or since they read here,  they can chime in.

I'll see if I can post you a link: http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2420.msg38115#msg38115

The heatsinks are just insurance should I get into a saturation condition when I hook up the inductor, never hurts to have a little extra heatsinking, besides if this doesn't work as advertised, I would like to use the driver for other experiments. I will also be driving some larger ferrites, perhaps from a power supply so I can watch the power consumption as I tune.

I used 220 ohm load resistors so that I could observe the switching without a lot of ringing etc, it is just a first step to see if everything is working correctly, then I will build the rest, including putting in some of the transient protection diodes and a properly wound and gapped ferrite core, MnZn type.

I know about LED's non-linearity, they are not necessarily the only devices I will use as a load test.

I am well aware of the limitations of a 9 Volt battery, and I do not expect any serious overunity.

The Miller clamps are specified as 2n3703, but faster devices could be used if needed.

I'm using IRF530's because I have them on hand, 14A 100V, nanosecond switching ability 0.16 ohm rds(on)

Should I perhaps not be posting here? I haven't done so in a few years but was very active in the past.

I lost a nice long answer to this.... but please DO keep posting here, and in the other thread that is now working again, if the images there can get sized down....

Thanks for your answer and details. I'm going to use the NTE374 for the clamps when I build it up, I think. I just mentioned the 9v battery as the example of the maximum sustained current that could reasonably be expected to contribute to mosfet heating; the big sinks are a joke if the only thing you intended to use the circuit for was Akula stuff, but you are making more of a general purpose item and maybe you will encounter mosfet heating. I know it can happen very quickly when it happens. But we live for the thrill, don't we?

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #394 on: May 01, 2014, 05:12:29 AM »

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #395 on: May 01, 2014, 10:23:33 AM »
@lost_bro
You should change your name to found_bro. You are on the right path and have posted all the relevant information regarding torque of electron spin in the material and the accompanying magnetostrictive effect. PLEASE TELL ME YOU ARE BUILDING CIRCUITS ALREADY??? We used the magnetostrictive effect of pure nickel tubes back in 2003 to do simultaneous multi-level sensing of the throth separation tanks at Anglo gold and platinum mining in South Africa. Nickel has a far superior ferro movement vs iron or other obtainable metals.

For better performance the nickel tubes was annealing (basically heated, current applied to it to align electron spin and cooled in this way). This permanently changed the properties of the material itself and much less energy is needed to achieve the magnetostrictive effect (which is the return energy that get induced back into the receiving coil). Since the electron spin is now aligned there is no need to pulse a driver coil to do this just to break it (spin direction) up again and repeat - you can imagine the energy saving.

Your core should have the highest possible amount of nickel in it and electron spin annealed in a fixed position.

The capetonian

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #396 on: May 01, 2014, 10:43:46 AM »
So let me get this straight. I am using Akula's circuit with only two substitutions: A TIP3055 that switches, instead of a mosfet that doesn't switch, and a 100R resistor in series with the two LEDs on the cathode end to ground.
I've corrected the seeming errors in the inductances stated on the original schematic and I've found that the inductances were likely reversed in the original schematic somehow. After much effort tuning and fiddling and substituting, winding several different coils and exploring the problem space nearly full time over the last three or four days... and I have actually reproduced, as far as I can tell, the exact waveforms that Akula is exhibiting. Frequency, amplitude, envelope, harmonics, noise... it is all there. I am less than 5 percent off in any direction.

Yet many of you are telling me I need some other ferrite material.  Even though I have the exact same waveforms.

PLEASE EXPLAIN in actual terms that have meaning, with references to checkable credible sources, how this can possibly be.

It certainly seems to me that if I had different material that resonated at a different frequency I would not have these waveforms using these component values. Anyone care to challenge this, perhaps with _a demonstration of your own_?
If this words to me, then let me see you drawed schematic. And I nothing say, that you core is from not good material.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #397 on: May 01, 2014, 10:48:47 AM »
I have 510 picoFarads.

Current schematic:
http://www.overunity.com/14524/3v-ou-flashlight/dlattach/attach/137847/image//
So you can not replicate this schematic? If you say, that it is exatly like Vadim schematic, then it is not exatly like Vadim, here many diferences, inductance not that addadet resistors and so on. If you replicating Akula divice with pot core, here also not exatly like in him, because he in video say, that other generator not used, but you using two generators, he use ony one.
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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #398 on: May 01, 2014, 10:58:12 AM »
In the closeup below you can see the three elevated pads for the LEDs. The black cylinder is the 1000 uF cap, its negative lead is soldered to the ground plane and the red wire is its positive lead, going to the Anode pad of the Blue LED. The Cathode pad of the White LED is connected to the 220R which is then connected to the ground plane. So I got the wiring right but the schematic insert wrong.

I tried the 220R but I think I'll go back to the 100R.

hi TinselKoala,

It's afternoon over here.

I took a look at the circuit once more.

I do find there is no recovery at all from higher voltage potential found across 1000uf capacitor and back to the MC34063 in order to create a self run.
It looks like-The higher potential is merely used to power 2 led in series besides charging 1000uf capacitor and also serve as voltage reference for P1 base on current circuit layout.

Can you try to see if there is any drop in input current after connecting wire(temporary) from output of D1 to MC34063 pin7.
Do try to connect battery or 3v power source few times to circuit -Akula style as seen in video for 2nd experiment after connecting temp wire as well.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #399 on: May 01, 2014, 12:13:15 PM »
Did you ever notice any hint of "overunity" performance in your annealed nickel tubes?

I should think that the scientists that could figure out how to use magnetostriction in a flow process at a gold mine could figure that out too. There is more "gold" in an overunity process than there is in the mines of South Africa, and if you believe Akula it's a lot easier to get to, as well.

Electron spin resonance is a far cry from NMR even though some of the same principles are at play.

Where is the spin-polarized annealed nickel in Akula's 3v flashlight, though? I must have missed it....



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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #400 on: May 01, 2014, 12:19:48 PM »
http://www.overunity.com/14524/3v-ou-flashlight/dlattach/attach/137847/image//
So you can not replicate this schematic? If you say, that it is exatly like Vadim schematic, then it is not exatly like Vadim, here many diferences, inductance not that addadet resistors and so on. If you replicating Akula divice with pot core, here also not exatly like in him, because he in video say, that other generator not used, but you using two generators, he use ony one.
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What are you talking about? I am using the schematic you linked, yes. It has only one "generator", the MC34063 chip. Please explain how I am able to generate the exact waveforms that Akula shows if the circuit I am using is wrong.

Why don't you show us some of YOUR work? Let us please see YOUR version of this project, and please don't forget to show it running without any power supply attached.


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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #401 on: May 01, 2014, 12:24:36 PM »
If this words to me, then let me see you drawed schematic. And I nothing say, that you core is from not good material.
I have showed my drawed schematic many times. Each time I make a variation I show the variation. By exploring _many variations_ I have identified errors in what has been reported -- the inductance values, which side gets which inductance, the fake "80V p-p" report due to his mis-setting attenuations.... and I have now arrived at the same instrumental measurements that Akula has shown. And you are waving your hands about and doing "special pleading".  Go ahead and send me some magic ferrite material and I'll be happy to test it, since YOU CANNOT REPORT ANY TESTS OF YOUR OWN that support your claims.

I have added ONE resistor to the original schematic, based on a suggestion made yesterday. It helps and hurts, as I have described above. I have changed the value of ONE input filter/reservoir capacitor from 2200 to 3300 uF. I made up the 0.33 ohm value by paralleling three 1.0 ohm resistors and I made the 510 pF value by putting 2 1000 pF caps in series and finding ones that would give the 510 pF value exactly.  Akula has shown many circuits "working" with a flyback ferrite instead of a pot core, including this one, I thought.

If you want to criticize my work, please do not misrepresent it while you are doing so. If you think that the 3300 uF cap is an "unsuitable" substitution... I'll be happy to change it. What do you predict will happen when I do?





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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #402 on: May 01, 2014, 12:29:13 PM »
I am still waiting for an explanation of how, if my circuit is somehow "wrong", I get these waveforms.

(Don't forget that Akula's scope is not showing 50 v/div but is actually showing 5 v/div and at less resolution than he could be using if he had set his scope correctly. I apologize for having "garage sale" equipment.... but at least I know how to use it. )

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #403 on: May 01, 2014, 12:47:36 PM »
hi TinselKoala,

It's afternoon over here.

I took a look at the circuit once more.

I do find there is no recovery at all from higher voltage potential found across 1000uf capacitor and back to the MC34063 in order to create a self run.
It looks like-The higher potential is merely used to power 2 led in series besides charging 1000uf capacitor and also serve as voltage reference for P1 base on current circuit layout.

Can you try to see if there is any drop in input current after connecting wire(temporary) from output of D1 to MC34063 pin7.
Do try to connect battery or 3v power source few times to circuit -Akula style as seen in video for 2nd experiment after connecting temp wire as well.

I'll try what you suggest, along with all the other suggestions I have received from people who seem coherent and have some actual knowledge. I must say, though, that I am getting fed up with the special pleadings, handwavings, and the resorting to more claims without evidence. I've shown to my satisfaction that the circuit I have constructed isn't picking up significant energy from the environment, that it can be made to run for a _long_ time on tiny concealed batteries, and that the circuit works to make the instrumental measurements that Akula has shown.... in short it does everything that Akula has shown. Everything. Akula simply has not shown yet where he hid the battery or the tiny thin supply wires.

If you want me to believe that different ferrite material -- the Soviet material -- will perform differently, please provide some evidence! And if you say, "well, look at Akula's circuit, he uses Soviet ferrites and they work!" I will just laugh at you. (Do we actually even have evidence that Akula himself is using "soviet ferrite" material? I'll bet his are made in China just like everyone else's.)



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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #404 on: May 01, 2014, 02:11:21 PM »
What are you talking about? I am using the schematic you linked, yes. It has only one "generator", the MC34063 chip. Please explain how I am able to generate the exact waveforms that Akula shows if the circuit I am using is wrong.
Akula use one generator and not clearly see how it circuit conected, so I not recomendate replicate akula lantern with pot core. I recomendate replicate lantern with two Tl494.

Tinkola, and indution not 5.9 miligenriesa and 2.6, miligenries, but 59 and 26 miligenries must be, if you replicating akula lanter with pot core. In video seems is 5.4 milihenries but writen 54 milihenries, see how many errors have this circuit? Or maybe here microhenries?
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