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TinselKoala

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #285 on: April 28, 2014, 01:11:13 AM »
I dunno... the m could be a scribbled greek u ... wide lead and tail... so micro probably
it's definatly not enough to be milli; tesla coils are 30mH++... which thousands of turns...
and I doubt it means nano


you said yours were about 55 and 22...  but 1/10 of that inductance is only 1/3.1 the windings (cause there's a square in there)

No, that's what the schematic said, 27 and 54 mH (but then someone said Wesley said 2.7 ...?)  Mine turned out to measure about 6 and 20 milliHenry. But I am going to wind another lower inductance pair as soon as I have time to make the bobbin.


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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #286 on: April 28, 2014, 01:20:53 AM »
There is something wrong here somewhere.    :-\

The sinus I am seeing seems to be at the local powerline frequency. I know it is coming from the coil and mosfet switching though, because I can feel and hear the coil vibrating.

I set up the measurements to read the p-p voltage and frequency of the sinus. The two shots below are first, with the core and spacer and spring clamp installed, and second, with the core unclamped and no spacer, chattering away, and retuned for a stable waveform set. Current draw went up to over 300 mA.

OK, I'm done with this coil I think, and I'll be winding another one shortly. Akula couldn't be picking up a harmonic of his powerline frequency, could he?

 ??? ???

Might be a good explanation as we know we can light an led with just an antenna and an earth ground. Possibly his circuit is just a good antenna?

Bill

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #287 on: April 28, 2014, 01:34:44 AM »
Might be a good explanation as we know we can light an led with just an antenna and an earth ground. Possibly his circuit is just a good antenna?

Bill
Well, maybe he has some powerful RF or he's living underneath the power distribution block for his apartment building or in a radar station, or something. That might account for the sinus. Once you have that sine wave or any action on the mosfet side, it will affect the oscillations of the MC34063 and cause the burst effect there. But I still don't see how that mechanism could couple into this circuit to light up the LEDs in absence of input power.

The story of him not being able to repeat the effect at another location.... where did that come from? I missed the original source.

It's more like the sine oscillation could be an artifact, common to both his environment and mine, picking up powerline harmonics, and it's being used as another Red Herring. But I think that there still must be either a hidden power source or a deliberate picking up of ambient power. I can't see how it could be done though, with just the existing circuitry. An additional cap or two, a diode, 78L33 voltage regulator and small loop antenna would be sufficient, but it doesn't seem like there is room on his board for all that.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #288 on: April 28, 2014, 01:45:12 AM »
OK, last one for a while.



tysb3

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #289 on: April 28, 2014, 01:55:21 AM »
                        @ TinselKoalayou are trying to get money from the bank but you don't know where they are. you are trying unlock every doors even toilets doors. you are still too far from the safes doors and you don't know the code of its.
you need to know what Akula was speaking in last conference on the skype:

http://webfile.ru/63bd3cd22caa0cb0343e3c0c52158678

Please save it and try to translate, it contains important information.

lost_bro

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #290 on: April 28, 2014, 02:36:36 AM »
Good Day All:

Ok, more info from the PDF I posted earlier:

Interestingly enough this dimensional resonance is famous for destroying ferrite cores.....

take care, peace
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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #291 on: April 28, 2014, 02:48:43 AM »
@ TinselKoala
first you need to find core resonance of yours transformer. It could be between 1-3,5 Ghz.
second, you need to adjust (without load and LF switch )  HF generator to resonate the core in his resonance for minimum current draw (I don't remember maybe it could be about 1mA ) from power suply. then try to play with 1 diod on load.
all transistors and diodes need to be possibly highest frequency.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #292 on: April 28, 2014, 03:01:41 AM »
@ TinselKoala
first you need to find core resonance of yours transformer. It could be between 1-3,5 Ghz.
second, you need to adjust (without load and LF switch )  HF generator to resonate the core in his resonance for minimum current draw (I don't remember maybe it could be about 1mA ) from power suply. then try to play with 1 diod on load.
all transistors and diodes need to be possibly highest frequency.

Good Day tysb3:

What is the recommended method to use in order to *find* the core resonance?

take care, peace
lost_bro

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #293 on: April 28, 2014, 03:25:06 AM »
@lost_bro
you need to put some winds (not to much) on the core with connection from the middle  and connect "bottom" and middle wires to signal generator and "bottom" and "top" wires to oscilloscope. then it's need to put meander signal and seek smal "hills" on the top of meander. the frequency of these "hills" will be core resonance.  I think it's not only method but this is what I understand from Akula's conference.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #294 on: April 28, 2014, 03:50:31 AM »
@ TinselKoala
first you need to find core resonance of yours transformer. It could be between 1-3,5 Ghz.


Hmm,
I think this is wrong.
We have here an audio frequency of about 6 to 10 Khz at play probably resonating the core in this
frequency range..You still can hear it...
So no Ghz are required...

Maybe via the spikes higher harmonics, but I guess this will not go into the Ghz range...

Although it will probably depend what ferrite core material you are using...
I wonder why TK´s core has such a low electrical resistance.

Normally Ferrite cores have much higher ohmical resistances....
We surely don´t want to have eddy currents inside the cores...

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #295 on: April 28, 2014, 04:00:37 AM »
@hartiberlin
this is information is from Akula. ant I think you are wrong, sorry. Akula have OU device  and you don't :)
sorry for my English grammar.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #296 on: April 28, 2014, 04:09:34 AM »
@hartiberlin
you don't understand. you don't need HF generator to work on the cores resonance frequency. it's need to work on the lower harmonic of this resonance. but fronts of  the signals need to be possible vertical. because of this transistors and diodes need to be possible highest frequency.

and I think you need 2 resonances: (1)HF coils resonance (to minimize amps from power suply much as possibly)  on lower cores frequency and  (2)cores resonance (for OU)

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #297 on: April 28, 2014, 04:34:28 AM »
You can actually hear the resonance in his circuit and it is probably such
a dimensional resonance as it is spoken in this Ferrite core PDF file that was just posted..
I just read it.

TK also has such a MnZi core with its low resistance of 50 Ohms/1cm.
These also have these dimensional resonance effects, so the core
is probably right...

Well, maybe you can tell us exactly what Akula said in this Online session ?

in the used circuit, which is a really strange switching circuit
http://www.overunity.com/14524/3v-ou-flashlight/dlattach/attach/137522/
the lower sine frequency comes probably from the secondary coil with the 100 uF
as LC tank which pulls down the supply voltage via the Q3 MOSFET and thus
switching on and off the DC2DC converter chip MC34063.

Maybe he made an error and wanted to have the the DC2DC chip running
all the time...
As the ferrite core rings at around 8 Khz probably the spike frequency is around
this 8 Khz frequency with this low sine wave modulation or better said chopping it...

In this video he shows the scope shots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpx1SJdXnmo

I wonder why TK does not have the underlayed sine wave, where the spikes occur on the yellow channel....
Maybe he must avoid full dimensional resonance that shatters the core sooner or later ??
So he tries to change the spike frequency around the resonance frequency like a FM modulation ?

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #298 on: April 28, 2014, 12:24:21 PM »
Hi everyone,

it is my first time posting and may I add it is a lovely sunny day in South Africa. I have been doing research into alternative energy devices for a few months now and thought it was time to share/help.

There are several ways of getting energy "from no where", BUT lets not skip over this 'no where' just to see something MAYBE working by poking in the dark. Lets look at the concepts behind what is happening and then develop it from there. First of all: What are we really after? Answ: control of electron flow. Before we can make electrons flow we need to find the best source where we can trade or trick to get some.

We know nature have tons of "misplaced/free roaming" electrons and when they get together we see things like lighting and static discharge - so NO question that it is there for the taking. Where are do these electrons hiding when not being conducting to earth? Short answ: the ionosphere. Think this way: give the electrons in the ionosphere a reason/pathway to flow into the earth and then put your load in series with that pathway. What do you think would happen? Sounds like the Tesla/Kapanadze devices?

BUT this is only one way of doing things AND you can combine methods to achieve the desired end result. NOW onto the method used or being searched for in this thread.

We need a source of electrons. We know metals have "loosely bonded" electrons - this is why they conduct electricity (they are willing to swap out electrons if pushed to do so). We also know metals are willing to give up electrons in exchange processes - we call these batteries , where by chemical or molecular bonding "swop outs" we can harvest electrons. SO we know there is energy in metals.

What if there is ANOTHER way of getting the electrons from metal? THERE IS! Science call it Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR) and it is used in NMR Spectroscopy equipment all the time - once again we thus know it exist and is possible. NMR uses the principal that specific elements vibrate/resonate at specific frequencies. At these frequencies they "give off" or radiate electrons - this is how you identify what molecular elements you are testing in your spectroscope. Because it is SO specific it is easy to miss. DON'T GIVE UP AFTER 10 MINUTES OF TRYING!!! It is a needle in a haystack.

HOWEVER, the plot thickens. Electrons have WEIGHT - take a high voltage, high frequency source, connect a thin enamel wire to each end, place the other ends of the two wires close to each other to create a spark gap or plasma discharge space, offset these ends such that they are not aligned. Now you have been taught that electricity always takes the shortest path, right? What you will find is that it does not jump straight from the one end to the other, it flows in an S-shape. Why is this? Well, the electrons are "running" down the wire at high speed. As they reach the end of the wire their momentum forces them to continue straight UNTIL the pull of the potential difference sway them in another direction and an electron "wind" path is created. This is proof of the fiscal weight of electrons.

THE  PUNCH LINE OR TRICK:
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If we can make electrons "spin" in a certain direction and then move away the molecule that electron belongs to quick enough then, at least for a moment, that electron will remain spinning in its location due to the torque of spinning weight and therefore it will be free roaming - now give it a path to conduct to somewhere else and place your load in series with that path.

How do we move the molecule away fast enough? Short answer: Nuclear Acoustic Resonance (NAR). This happens when the fiscal structure containing the molecules starts to vibrate at IT's (structure) specific resonance. It is clear from the experimenting and devices/circuits being constructed in this forum, in this thread that you are close. BUT remember it is a needle in a haystack - finding it is not easy, but it IS possible.

SUMMERY:
Achieve NMR perpendicular to NAR and create a conducting path (with your load in series) for the free roaming electrons. HOW: A ferrite core is a structure that contains metal that can vibrate/resonate fiscally and it contains loosely spinning electrons that can be spun in a certain direction by applying a magnetic field of the right strength.

It should be noted that these devices will not last forever, BUT they are a gazilion times better than any known battery process. Now you have concrete known processes to follow and use to achieve electron harvesting. Hope I have helped you out of the darkness  :)

The capetonian


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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #299 on: April 28, 2014, 12:54:26 PM »
@ all
I'm very sorry for my mistake. ferrite cores resonance is in Mhz range, not in Ghz. It's to be right 1 - 3,5 Mhz