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Author Topic: 3v OU Flashlight  (Read 344173 times)

Offline conico

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2014, 09:42:16 PM »
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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2014, 12:34:06 AM »
Hi MenoFather,


We will need your help to communicate with the creator of the circuit in Russian.To ask the estimated number of primary and secondary turns in Russian or why the copper foil was used which leave around a 1mm gap without closing loop.

I hope this will solve the free energy mystery once and for all which can put all skeptics past,present and future to rest once and for all. :D

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everyone,
I wonder where is stivep /stivep1 when we need him.


As usual please save video 4.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2014, 01:20:37 AM »
From that transformer gutting video, it can be gleaned that:
- Two or three windings exist.
- Two copper shield layers exist.
- The inner shield is gapped.
- Copper shields are coated with some adhesive.
- Cardboard spacer between center posts of the pot core (thickness?)
- Teflon tape between layers
- Outer winding consists of one complete layer
- Outer winding appears to be darker in color (different enamel or different metal?)
- Inner winding consists of almost two complete layers with no tape in between.

MAYBE:
The outer shield is gapped, too.
Matt Watts stated that the inner winding is composed of two parts: Vadik unspools the 1st part up to a point where he pulls the bobbin out of his hand. The 2nd part consists of only a small number of turns and is positioned on one side of the bobbin, not centered over the core's gap.  He breaks up the 2nd part with a screwdriver.


Perhaps more details can be gleaned from this video, by people with better eyes. Such as:
1) Turn count
2) Layer count
3) Layer advancement
4) The top winding direction in relation to the bottom winding direction ( a.k.a. dot convention )
5) Soldered connections on those coppers shields.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2014, 01:20:37 AM »
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Offline lost_bro

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2014, 02:31:41 AM »
April[/b].




MC34063 and ferrite pot have been shipped out which i likely will received this item around 3week time(max).Best case 2 weeks.




Hello magpwr

I will order the parts also to do the replication.

PLease tell me what size is the Pot core, and what grade of material did you order?

Thanks
take care, peace
lost_bro

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2014, 10:25:28 AM »
Hi MenoFather,


We will need your help to communicate with the creator of the circuit in Russian.To ask the estimated number of primary and secondary turns in Russian or why the copper foil was used which leave around a 1mm gap without closing loop.


Ok, I try ask him in russian how many turns.... But I think, that 20 precent is chance, that he answer to my question or maybe less. ;)


Delamorto, сколько имела одна катушка витков и друга в вечном фонарике?

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2014, 10:25:28 AM »
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Offline magpwr

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2014, 11:08:46 AM »
Hello magpwr

I will order the parts also to do the replication.

PLease tell me what size is the Pot core, and what grade of material did you order?

Thanks
take care, peace
lost_bro

hi lost_bro,

I'm unable to advise if i had purchased the correct "Ferrite Pot Core" spec from ebay around 4 days back.
I don't recommend you or anyone to follow me on what i purchase as when it comes to cores as i don't have much of a clue.It is not advisable to follow me for core selection. :)

Source-Ebay.com seller from Bulgaria

P4728 HAGY 47x28mm M2 78 POT P PP Ferrite Core transformer AL=9500

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251473390888?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

This is the second largest pot core i can find in ebay.The largest one in ebay is 70mm diameter but comes with no bobbin at all.
The only reason i selected this 47mm dia core size so that i'm able to scale up easily using same core to a certain extend once self run."Primary objective to cut cost while scaling up"

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In the meantime i hope those whom already completed the circuit do try to replicate winding as shown in video 4 without forgetting the copper shield,gap,insulation in between.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYEuV-ji4tk

Only once any replication is successful and self-run.Only then we can think about scaling up from there.Always think simple first.I hope to see a successful replication posted while i'm waiting for parts to arrrive. :)

Good Luck.

Offline MenofFather

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2014, 11:42:58 AM »
I try calculate numbers of turns of upper windings in slow motion and calculate about 30 turns. Iner windings can be in 3 time more.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2014, 11:42:58 AM »
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Offline verpies

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2014, 12:11:23 PM »
Ok, I try ask him in russian how many turns.... But I think, that 20 precent is chance, that he answer to my question or maybe less
I was hoping you would ask him in his YouTube comments and on Russian forums that he often participates in.

Please show him the diagram below and ask him whether his transformer is laid out as depicted on Diag.1 or Diag.2.
Also, please ask him which winding terminals are soldered to the copper shields.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2014, 12:22:36 PM »
I try calculate numbers of turns of upper windings in slow motion and calculate about 30 turns. Iner windings can be in 3 time more.

hi MenoFather,

You are right.

1st layer of bobbin is a copper (tape or foil)with around 2mm gap with a solder somewhere near gap .This is connected to one of the around 90 turns around 22...24AWG insulated copper wire and another is connected to a wire leading outwards to circuit.At the top of 90 turns coil it is also connected to copper(tape or foil) with around 2...3mm gap with solder to wire to coil and another to output.

After which there is a white tape to insulate the 90 turns with copper tape /foil then followed by the estimated 30 turns coil(1 layer only).


I hope this is my correct findings since i played video at 0.1x speed using "VLC player" after downloading from youtube video 4.Anyone please double verify my findings.

This will finalize the winding part i hope.The original core AL value unknown. :) :)

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If anyone buying a pot core take note of your selected the copper wire diameter around 22AWG...24AWG.The one layer consisting of "30" turns should fit in bobbin base on whatever spec you select,can't be small of course.
The diameter of pot core should be around 4cm estimated with a minimum height for bobbin base on your selected copper wire for the turns.Sorry i still don't know the AL value for the core.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2014, 12:22:36 PM »
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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2014, 12:48:30 PM »
I was hoping you would ask him in his YouTube comments and on Russian forums that he often participates in.

Please show him the diagram below and ask him whether his transformer is laid out as depicted on Diag.1 or Diag.2.
Also, please ask him which winding terminals are soldered to the copper shields.
I ask many questions in comment on youtube, to get answer how exatly  need wound... But he not answer. I bealive, that here two standart windings, only maybe conected to copper tape not closed.

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2014, 01:00:06 PM »
hi MenoFather,

You are right.

1st layer of bobbin is a copper (tape or foil)with around 2mm gap with a solder somewhere near gap .This is connected to one of the around 90 turns around 22...24AWG insulated copper wire and another is connected to a wire leading outwards to circuit.At the top of 90 turns coil it is also connected to copper(tape or foil) with around 2...3mm gap with solder to wire to coil and another to output.

After which there is a white tape to insulate the 90 turns with copper tape /foil then followed by the estimated 30 turns coil(1 layer only).


I hope this is my correct findings since i played video at 0.1x speed using "VLC player" after downloading from youtube video 4.Anyone please double verify my findings.

You, seems, write correct. :D

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2014, 01:00:06 PM »
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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2014, 01:03:03 PM »
First layer of maybe cupper tape and second is not shorted in himself. :D

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #42 on: April 16, 2014, 01:57:21 PM »
I hope this is my correct findings since i played video at 0.1x speed using "VLC player" after downloading from youtube video 4.Anyone please double verify my findings.
I believe, that here are two standard windings, only maybe connected to copper tape, not closed.
I cannot verify your assertion that the inner winding is composed of only one part.  As he unwinds the inner winding, a small group of turns is left behind the unwind-point, while the underlying copper tape is being exposed.  The remaining group of turns is attached to something and he cannot unwind them like the rest of the winding, so he breaks them with a screwdriver.
This resembles winding layout depicted on Diag.2.

See the photo below:

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2014, 02:32:00 PM »
I cannot verify your assertion that the inner winding is composed of only one part.  As he unwinds the inner winding, a small group of turns is left behind the unwind-point, while the underlying copper tape is being exposed.  The remaining group of turns is attached to something and he cannot unwind them like the rest of the winding, so he breaks them with a screwdriver.
This resembles winding layout depicted on Diag.2.

hi verpies,

I noticed the same too but i can't tell from downloaded youtube video played at 0.1x / 1/10x is it because the last few remaining wires "got tangled up" such that it can't be unwind hence the easy way was to break magnet wires to reveal the 1st layer copper tape/foil.

This scenario happens if magnet wire winding became loose maybe.Sorry i can't really tell.

This is my 1st time seeing winding with 2 copper shield with gap at the bottom of 90 turns and at the top pf 90 turns.This is where i need stivep to come up with any possible theory so that we may know what is actually going on only then the scaling up would be little more easy once we get some understanding on possible "theory of operation"

It reminded me of sr193 and other high power device which we normally get to see with just 1 expose cut copper tube in the center of the core.Who knows maybe the another piece a foil with a gap is conceal nicely from our eyes.But lets not get distracted by other device until we solve this current one which we are focused on.

In the meantime let wait for outcome from others whom i  believe already constructed circuit and revealed a non self running video base on older incorrect "winding steps" previously.

Let see if there is any improvement if winding steps is followed as per my observed winding description to Menofather.

Not forgetting the simple tuning steps for 0 amps which is also mentioned <48hours ago in this thread.




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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2014, 02:39:27 PM »
I noticed the same too but i can't tell from downloaded youtube video played at 0.1x / 1/10x is it because the last few remaining wires "got tangled up" such that it can't be unwind
They might have gotten tangled up AFTER he dropped the spool.
But why did this group of turns get left behind during the unwinding of the innermost layer ...before he dropped it ?

 

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