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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1998148 times)

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3945 on: September 12, 2015, 08:47:13 PM »
Just to be completely clear.... some people refer to me as "TK" since those are the initials of my handle here on this forum. However when Wesley or some others refer to "TK" they are talking about Tariel Kapanadze, who has made claims and demonstrations that are simply not credible and which have never been properly tested "at the source".


You right
TK stands for  Tariel Kapanadze for purpose of discussion.


You right
for many  people, made claims and demonstrations  are simply not credible and  have never been properly tested "at the source".


You right
that  the respect should be given to  you as a person who is doing testing as well.
Does that change anything?







Does fact that there were  weapons of mass destruction or not, in Irak  brings back life of fallen  american solders and Irakis  solders as well.
Does that change anything?


TK was first man I have  met, who presented to me (no money charged)
The device that I can not  deny,It was working as stated.
No battery, no power supply.


Have you seen that demonstration  you'll be at the same state of mind .
Have you seen that demonstration  you'll be  able to draw your own conclusion, and discuss your experience  at the same experience level
Have you seen that demonstration  you'll be  more of help  to me  than you are now.
The truth is you have not.


Wesley




I just came from the funeral.
My friend is gone I  wish he was alive.
Does that change anything for him?







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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3946 on: September 12, 2015, 11:54:57 PM »
Oh the jbweld guru again lolz

“since the war began on poverty” that sound lovely….

I'm sure nothing really smart coming out! From you.

Do you even know what your parents taught you in your life? I'm sorry pirate but you CANNOT think that far ahead HENCE you believe that poverty cannot be eradicated? You are just a clown sir in the galaxy of smart people lol :P ...to put it in THE COLD HARD TRUTH, if you had 300,0000000 trillion dollars to get rid of poverty, you CAN'T get rid of it because you don't know that money does not make people smart lol, save your money for your kids when they need it? o.0. Based on my questioning over and over again, nothing smart comes from you so you are trying to tell me COMPLEX stuff ABOUT HOW TO GET RID OF POVERTY? Sorry, that is just a joke!

it is 100% obvious with out a doubt that ONE you cannot manage your OWN money TWO you are not qualified to speak about getting rid of poverty!!!! getting rid of poverty is teaching them...ALL KIDS ARE BORN POOR the parents teach them to succeed or stay poor= it's all in the mind rather than buying them a fast car.

Hehheehe, let me hear pirate how to teach a poor kid to learn something new?

I have already figured you out pirate, you are just struggling with money yourself!!!! Your brain has not capability to look further than your struggles. What would shut you up is if you had one million dollars in your bank account! PLEASE! You speaking about getting id of poverty is just a joke! Clowns only are there to say jokes and not to speak about what deep thinkers find solutions too!

I kind of have a feeling that you have never even held 200,000 dollars cash in your hands?

Anything that escapes the earths gravitational pull will speed up in to the dark matter. This is how ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the satellites in to space GATHER their momentum! ALLLL satellites that go to outer space USE this you dumbo! Lol….it does not need explanation for those who are satellite engineers. Let me guess, you want people to teach you so you can say “thank you”!!! Which is what it looks like when ever you speak/write. o.0 WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR THANK YOU ANY MORE< WE WANT TO SEEE SMART PEOPLE CHANGE THE WORLD ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!

Are you telling me that poverty cannot get erased from this earth? You know what is funny, you are a poor person! lol

Joel:

You are so funny.  You actually make me laugh.  You make fun of me not having much money at this time in my life yet, you speak out and insult all of those folks that actually do have money.  You always say that money is bad, it is greed...etc...etc.  But, for some reason, you must think that folks that do not have money are bad too?

Please try to explain how this might make any sense to any one with half a brain?

I do not want to, and will not get into a pissing contest with you...you would lose.

Have you ever started a corporation in your garage that, in less than 5 years, was worth over 2 million dollars?

I didn't think so.

Have you ever designed, or helped design and manufactured parts that are actually still in space?  Some on Mars as we speak? (First Mars Lander)

Nope, didn't think so.

Maybe, just possibly, you should think about what you have done before calling out others that have obviously done much more than you? 

Have you made any parts for the Space Shuttle?  Have you ever helped them redesign a part, and then make it so they could keep their launch schedule?  (STS-60)

No?  Didn't think so.

Have you ever machined pure sapphire rod down to .009" diameter (+ or- .0001 tolerance) to make the first hearing aid implants ever attempted?  (Yes, they worked)

No?  Didn't think so.

Have you ever machined parts for the NASA Space Plane Project?  (Project Aurora)

No?  Really?  Why not?  What about making inertial guidance system parts for DARPA?  No as well?

I could go on and on but obviously would be wasting my time.  It would be much shorter if you told all of us exactly what you HAVE done...if anything.  It is probably a short list I am guessing.

You can say whatever you want but, just a word of caution, when you make ridiculous statements concerning your gross misunderstanding of physics, anyone that actually knows even a little about physics knows you are ignorant of that subject.

Anyway, carry on as I know you will.

Bill

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3947 on: September 13, 2015, 12:25:11 AM »

(snip)

Have you seen that demonstration  you'll be at the same state of mind .
Have you seen that demonstration  you'll be  able to draw your own conclusion, and discuss your experience  at the same experience level
Have you seen that demonstration  you'll be  more of help  to me  than you are now.
The truth is you have not.


Wesley


You are right, I have not. Unfortunately I can't travel like I once could. But I would be more than happy to witness and test any item you or anyone else will send me. For example, some of the smaller devices that Akula has presented, only have a few dollars worth of parts in them, yet supposedly put out enough power to light up LEDs or run other loads with no input power. Like the one demonstrated (unconvincingly) in Germany for example. Get one running in your lab, then box it up and send it to me. I'll be happy to test and reverse-engineer it and give a full report. Heck, I'll even pay the postage.... IF it works as claimed.

You can believe me when I tell you that if I had such a device, and was demonstrating it on YouTube trying to convince people it worked, I'd have no problem building up one and sending it to you for testing and reporting.

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I just came from the funeral.
My friend is gone I  wish he was alive.
Does that change anything for him?

I am sorry for your loss. We are all too mortal, and none of us is getting any younger.  No, nothing changes for him, but we have a choice as to whether we want to spend the time remaining to _us_ chasing butterflies, or helping others understand reality.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3948 on: September 13, 2015, 12:38:09 AM »
Wesley:

I am sorry for your loss.  We all know death is a part of life...blah, blah, blah.  Of course, it is true but being told that at this time is not helpful.  I am 57 and have lost a number of dear friends and family.  The only thing I think I can do is to live life and be happy since they can no longer do so.

It is not easy and again, I am sorry.

Bill

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3949 on: September 13, 2015, 05:35:05 AM »
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You are so funny.  You actually make me laugh.  You make fun of me not having much money at this time in my life yet, you speak out and insult all of those folks that actually do have money.  You always say that money is bad, it is greed...etc...etc.  But, for some reason, you must think that folks that do not have money are bad too?

I don't really mean to insult you at all it is just that when you go against GLOBAL things that can get eradicated is what does not sit well in the stomach. POVERTY can get eradicated 100% sure...it's a FENOMENAL task for everyone willing to tackle that problem (like martin luther king) but in the numbers, it can be eradicated. Your reasoning just points to that it cannot and that is what shows your better judgment.

Lets look at the facts for a minute. How does one make money to live a rich life? Well the education is the 100% key. How does one get educated? Well you get freee education from your parents and public schools. The the parent education only goes so far because the “evolution”/”time” always changes so now you have to pay to be taught education that your parents gave you for freee = survival of the fitest was mostly taught. Now all humans can learn to be anything in the industry – engineer, architect, inventor, singer, etc...but that takes money to pay to go to universities (plus also moral support from the parents). Yara yara yara…

ALLL of the evidence points to that poverty can be eradicated once and for all. When you start talking about 30 trillion dollars being wasted on getting rid of poverty then talking about “they will take the money and stay home.” We are not really on the same page of a solution. IN order to get rid of poverty is by teaching the young, period. And as I already explain the process (well right to the point) how humans learn, it is NOT how you envision it! Which like you said, give them free money! o.0

Teach a man to fish! NOT give a man a lake full of fish!

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Have you ever started a corporation in your garage that, in less than 5 years, was worth over 2 million dollars?

I didn't think so.

Have you ever designed, or helped design and manufactured parts that are actually still in space?  Some on Mars as we speak? (First Mars Lander)

Nope, didn't think so.

Maybe, just possibly, you should think about what you have done before calling out others that have obviously done much more than you? 

Have you made any parts for the Space Shuttle?  Have you ever helped them redesign a part, and then make it so they could keep their launch schedule?  (STS-60)

No?  Didn't think so.

Have you ever machined pure sapphire rod down to .009" diameter (+ or- .0001 tolerance) to make the first hearing aid implants ever attempted?  (Yes, they worked)

No?  Didn't think so.

Have you ever machined parts for the NASA Space Plane Project?  (Project Aurora)

No?  Really?  Why not?  What about making inertial guidance system parts for DARPA?  No as well?

I could go on and on but obviously would be wasting my time.  It would be much shorter if you told all of us exactly what you HAVE done...if anything.  It is probably a short list I am guessing.

Well I do give credit where credit is due and I'm glad you took a part in those...seriously. Well as a matter of fact, let me derail for a minute.

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Have you ever started a corporation in your garage that, in less than 5 years, was worth over 2 million dollars?

I would not mind hearing/reading about this. I have read many book about true stories regarding oil companies and how drugs mess up a life...this type pf stories/books I like because they go beyond the media commercials and get down to the truth. Lol I would not mind hearing your young years story while taking in to account that poverty can be eradicated.

Let me hear/read a short story of your life bill? I will read it. HECK FREEE learning experience for me :) (and others)

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3950 on: September 13, 2015, 05:57:43 AM »
To clarify a little further bill:

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Oh, and your bullet in space theory is also wrong as...if you fire a bullet and it curves around the earth due to gravity, it will never just "shoot out" and go into space.  it would have to accelerate to over 25,000 mph which is earth's gravity escape velocity.  I have never heard of a bullet going that fast.

Don't take that bullet analogy literally, I was actually speaking about Newton's cannonball which is well known and true. All of the rockets that break the earths “gravitational” pull use the “pull” of the mass to “slingshot” out. Now the “shoot out” is real. :P

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3951 on: October 03, 2015, 10:30:44 PM »
Just when the qeg scammers dept of lies seemed to stop falling, bam!! dolla dolla bill girl spins up the propellers and point downward deeper into that bullshit of fixing the world.  The videos of September are a real hoot.  The latest is just comical beyond belief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rv0xfe0oJc

Clearly whatever substance consumed now shows its effect on Jamie.  Look at his contradictions.  First, the lack of video of proof is for their protection.  Refusal is the reason when your read between the lines.  A minute later, open source spreading the plans keeps them safe.  Hello?  Did you just hear the words that came from out of your mouth?  Then why in hell do you refuse when you claim to have put yourself into safety?  Classic hypocritical do as I say not as I do.  And amazing it is to claim to be the on the brink of saving the world when at the same time hiding the very thing to save the world from the world.  Must be strong medicine.

Who is this HE?  This one gentlemen that got in touch with them.  A person needing his name protected even after he was put in jail for an invention claim.  If he served time from the FEDS already what is this thing from which he needs protection?  Has he not heard of double jeopardy LOL!!!

And there you have it.  Hopegirl clearly states in the video that several generations out as the length she wants her scam to live in infamy.

Don't even get me started on the early youtube comments supporting these out right fraudsters.
 
Hell with the video.  The real question remains.  Why do you and your followers not HAVE AND UTILIZE a self running qeg?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3952 on: October 03, 2015, 11:19:44 PM »
Unreal.  You could not make this stuff up.

She better watch out though, Karma can be a real bitch.  Look at poor Mr. Wayne.

Bill

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3953 on: October 03, 2015, 11:29:52 PM »
There should be no doubt in anyone's mind, by now, that these scammers do not have what they are claiming to have, "but cannot show".  It is no longer possible for anyone with an ounce of brain to think that they are just hopeful and mistaken. They are clearly not telling the truth and are clearly trying to dupe people into supporting their permanent vacation in a place where they are beyond the reach of USA justice.
They are also beyond the protection of USA law, though, and eventually some rich and unscrupulous person whom they have scammed, is going to come looking for them.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3954 on: October 04, 2015, 12:24:27 AM »
There should be no doubt in anyone's mind, by now, that these scammers do not have what they are claiming to have, "but cannot show".  It is no longer possible for anyone with an ounce of brain to think that they are just hopeful and mistaken. They are clearly not telling the truth and are clearly trying to dupe people into supporting their permanent vacation in a place where they are beyond the reach of USA justice.
They are also beyond the protection of USA law, though, and eventually some rich and unscrupulous person whom they have scammed, is going to come looking for them.

Yes, and when they find her, they will be wearing T-shirts that say: "Ain't Karma a Bitch?"

Bill

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3955 on: October 04, 2015, 02:14:11 AM »
what a twisted cyclic mess.

diversification is their profit model.
not just one scam, but trying to attach themselves to any other possible trickle sources of income.

their lastest focus seems to be as pure as a hypocrite can aim for.
talking about other charities being so highly profitable, as if to compare the qeg team to try and seem honest.
what a selective bunch of lying scumbags.

they have done nothing for experimenters and science, other than to warn people that there is too much room for selective bunches of lying scumbags that seek to enable themselves to litter the streets of progress in a manner that lowers property values in the area.

its too bad moroccan authorities might be too underfunded and corrupted to care not enough to deal with their newest unpatriotic guested citizens who've set up shop there.
its like the scammers have created themselves a amnesty towards further rip off developments.

meanwhile the qeg team continue to practice acting like they care about their viewers financial or time donated expenses. vomit.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3956 on: October 04, 2015, 02:24:41 AM »
Yes, and when they find her, they will be wearing T-shirts that say: "Ain't Karma a Bitch?"

Bill

HypeGirl in a T-shirt is an image I'd rather not be seeing, thanks.

Grrrl be not missing any meals, that's fo sho.

Meanwhile it looks like the strain is getting to poor old James. He's looking sicker and sicker with every appearance. And just look at his body language in that video. He's not a very good liar at all.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3957 on: October 04, 2015, 04:20:51 AM »





That is very interesting moment  in our discussion.
I  have spend plenty of money   for the lab.
I have had easy money  to be collected many times, and  I still can find sponsors I think,( I do not know for sure) and yet I was avoiding it as much as I could.
Definitely  if I see someone I want to promote I will find big  guys with big money.
As long as there is no me in the equation, and Investor is investing in one of you guys
Nobody can touch me. I do not take money from it nor I'm  a part of the deal.


TK blow such opportunity..and he unlikely get it from me again.


For those who cares :
The important  is to catch  the moment in your hand, when is accessible to you.
The moment is gone and you are with or without money


However if you do so ,than you are mostly with money and in deep s...t
With money there is always responsibility to deliver in time frame that is set  for you by others.
In many cases there is unfinished business and your life necessity  that needs to be taken care of.
So the question becomes at what point is care a choice or necessity,


So say  you have got money 
You should not touch that money for your  personal use., It was given to you for a  very specific  reason .
It is not job offer, it is mostly other people money given to you to deliver end results.
Can you  experiment without  the shoes? food? can you stop that what was giving you income , just give it away,
what if something goes wrong?


In some cases, investor sets some funds for you, and rest for the project.
At the end money is gone and you are being scrutinized
Some of very wealthy people can give you  donation, and yet they  want to feel good not like fools.
The reality is that most of you must have ready working product to avoid any accusations.
The reality is that most of  wealthy people want patents and exclusivity rights.[/size]
The reality is that most  of wealthy donors do not do it for you, they do it for themselves, for their own satisfaction or  for a  tool to corrupt other people  empire. 
And you?
You are  just  a delivery guy .





I  work slow, buy very expensive equipment  at very cheap price ,
I wait  for next tool   I need, sometimes  months and years.
I'm becoming  one of just few who have non commercial lab of this magnitude in USA
I'm not the best guy in the field,However I feel very myself very strong in most of the subjects discussed .
In most of them I can fly high up, in other  i can barely walk, however there are not so many fields I assume I would have problem walking up.
Chemistry is for me something I should have been paying much more attention to, when I was  young.
But for last 5 years I slowly  get quite progress there.
 
I do not ask for  money
I sleep well
I'm happy


Wesley

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3958 on: October 04, 2015, 04:44:42 AM »
Hi all
I hope you do not mind I featured some of your comments in the latest QEG Scam Girl story I ran.


http://revolution-green.com/qeg-scam-girl-sinking-in-a-sea-of-lies/


Kind Regards
Mark


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3959 on: October 04, 2015, 06:32:41 AM »
Note that she has changed her strategy re comments, too. Before now, they always disabled comments on their videos. Now, she realizes how bad that looked, so she's allowing comments, but is deleting negative comments and blocking the negative commenters. There will be nothing but positive encouraging comments to be seen on those videos. The best that critics can do is to leave a "thumbs down" vote... if they haven't already been blocked that is.