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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1998034 times)

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3885 on: August 25, 2015, 08:08:05 PM »
In so many  different FE devices coming from so many different regions there is some pattern visible to train eye of one skilled in general  art of it.


Russia and former  Soviet Empire  Countries.:
Kapanadze like device.
or one of three concept devices  known as electrostatic


Three  different concept   directions in FE.
1 electrostatic
2. magnetic
3. Nuclear


FE (Free Energy) is known also  under the name OU (overunity devices)


Australia
2.magnetic





South America
1 electrostatic , magnetic.[/size]


 North America is mostly
1 electrostatic as well.
however  different forms  of magnetic  concept : e.g. Joseph Newman have been present here as well.





Europe is just "unknown gender"
over here , over there something from time to time.



Africa and most of  Asia is chronically " castrated" ( sterilized, fix) in area of FE.


concept 3 Nuclear  has a history from Hendershot 1924 to Colman 1956 starting  from 1901 by implementing  par of Thomas Edison patent of pencil battery.
I have  made summary of it in  video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-Cvm_0XEjg
made in three different  languages.


In life of many of us there is a chance to get ugly  wealthy in no time.
I have got the chance   once I  have lost it due to my stupid ideological spinal cord.
Perfect deal  to me  to Arunas and to Aidas.
Exactly what you guys waiting for.
Exactly  one  hundred mill.  of euro, and I did not have to be traitor to the values I respect.
I have lost it  because I believed that Tariel Kapanadze has priority in art  and he should be beneficiary of the offer.
Generous payer was just big  company who makes money on  sale of news,  and not on devices and manufacturing.


Fricken Kapanadze is just waste life, who never  deserves such  glory.
Yes he is first who  introduced electrostatic device to the world in this extend.
Yes his device works.
other than that just another alcoholic with very limited horizons.
was I able to reverse a time. I would  never redirect attention of  interested media to TK.
TK would never  be elected to the honor  of being the hero for the  world.
What a shame.
TK- Having  perfect tool in your hands and blow it all.
 
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I'm playing with #3.
it is also easy to discourage people saying it is nuclear.
Most of you and rest of the crowd does not even know what is  radioactivity. and that their kitchen salt is  radioactive, or their  granite countertop or floor is radioactive.


Rich man politics made you  to be afraid instead  of understanding radioactivity and nuclear processes .
Acid battery  in your car can be more dangerous than Colman.


There is a trick however.
I'm untouchable in this area.
Physics  says that frequency of 300-500MHz has to low energetic potential in eV  to  make photon of Electromagnetic  Wave to affect matter   as to alter it in its nuclear   form.
From the other hand I fall into the category of another lunatic dealing with FE.
Government  can not punish lunatics.


So I do work slowly and the progress is unknown and unspecified  for trolls  and other people because of that ...........as for now.




Wesley

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3886 on: August 25, 2015, 08:27:13 PM »
In so many  different FE devices coming from so many different regions there is some pattern visible to train eye of one skilled in general  art of it.
Many claims come.  All of the claims to date have gone without a single one proving true. Quantity of claims is no measure of truth or falsity of claims.  If you don't believe that, I can readily connect you with many self professed corrupt Nigerian bank officials  looking to move security cases of money in Amsterdam.
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Russia and former  Soviet Empire  Countries.:
Kapanadze like device.
or one of three concept devices  known as electrostatic


Three  different concept   directions in FE.
1 electrostatic
2. magnetic
3. Nuclear


FE (Free Energy) is known also  under the name OU (overunity devices)


South America and North America is mostly
1 electrostatic as well.
however  different forms  of magnetic  concept : e.g. Joseph Newman have been present here as well.
Joe Newman is infamous for his claimed but not actual over unity devices.  A few years ago he was performing silly demonstrations in supermarket parking lots to people who don't understand batteries.
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Europe is just "unknown gender"
Africa and most of  Asia is chronically " castrated" ( sterilized, fix) in area of FE.


concept 3 Nuclear  has a history from Harrison 1924 to Colman 1956 starting  from 1901 by implementing  par of Thomas Edison patent of pencil battery.
I have  made summary of it in  video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-Cvm_0XEjg
made in three different  languages.


In life of many of us there is a chance to get ugly  wealthy in no time.
I have got the chance   once I  have lost it due to my stupid ideological spinal cord.
Perfect deal  to me  to Arunas and to Aidas.
Exactly what you guys waiting for.
Exactly  one  hundred mill.  of euro, and I did not have to be traitor to the values I respect.
I have lost it  because I believed that Tariel Kapanadze has priority in art  and he should be beneficiary of the offer.
Generous payer was just big  company who makes money on  sale of news,  and not on devices and manufacturing.


Fricken Kapanadze is just waste life, who never  deserves such  glory.
Yes he is first who  introduced electrostatic device to the world in this extend.
Yes his device works.
other than that just another alcoholic with very limited horizons.
was I able to reverse a time. I would  never redirect attention of  interested media to TK.
TK would never  be elected to the honor  of being the hero for the  world.
What a shame.
TK- Having  perfect tool in your hands and blow it all.
 
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I'm playing with #3.
it is also easy to discourage people saying it is nuclear.
Most of you and rest of the crowd does not even know what is  radioactivity. and that their kitchen salt is  radioactive, or their  granite countertop or floor is radioactive.


Rich man politics made you  to be afraid instead  of understanding radioactivity and nuclear processes .
Acid battery  in your car can be more dangerous than Colman.


There is a trick however.
I'm untouchable in this area.
Physics  says that frequency of 300-500MHz has to low energetic potential in eV  to  make photon of Electromagnetic  Wave to affect matter   as to alter it in its nuclear   form.
From the other hand I fall into the category of another lunatic dealing with FE.
Government  can not punish lunatics.


So I do work slowly and the progress is unknown and unspecified  for trolls  and other people because of that ...........as for now.




Wesley
Talk is cheap.  Devise an energy source that is actually cheaper and/or cleaner than what exists and the world can be your oyster then.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3887 on: August 25, 2015, 08:48:48 PM »
Many claims come.  ................








I must agree with your comment:


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All of the claims to date have gone without a single one proving true.
Quantity of claims is no measure of truth or falsity of claims. 


Yes


however what is  the "single one proving true."
Was that me in TK house in Tbilisi  Georgia?

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Joe Newman is infamous for his claimed but not actual over unity devices.  A few years ago he was performing silly demonstrations in supermarket parking lots to people who don't understand batteries.


Yes
however  desperate people do desperate things  especially  when they have no choice and no option.
With time age takes toll on their thinking ability and that is why so many brains are just jerks with whatever is left from their  brilliant achievements.
BTW, Neuman was never  brain... he was just lucky experimenter.




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Talk is cheap.  Devise an energy source that is actually cheaper and/or cleaner than what exists and the world can be your oyster then.


Unclear  to me if there is any additional  "double meaning" of it hidden but


Yes







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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3888 on: August 25, 2015, 11:13:34 PM »
When you were at the demonstration in Georgia, did anyone walk around outside and pull the all circuit breakers/fuses to Tariel's whole house?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3889 on: August 26, 2015, 04:58:24 AM »
When you were at the demonstration in Georgia, did anyone walk around outside and pull the all circuit breakers/fuses to Tariel's whole house?
Demonstration was not in the house but in garage that was on the same street around few hundred meters  from TK apartment.
TK does not have house.
He has  one room with kitchen in the same room and  bathroom as separate  room.
His son have house .
We again start to put in question  TK  ............
Put God in question and still there will be Vatican ..............

Fool me around is next to impossible.
I'm just to good  in it.
Can it be that there is magician who is able to do so and I would not be able to detect it?
The answer is  :
The chance is as slim as me being hit by meteor in the same fashion as this one.
Russian Meteorite Explosion! 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX0oRfj3Hd4


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_meteor


Think about it this way:
I start to invest in my lab in 2010.
Hundreds of hours spend  digging for the best and get it.
Hundreds of hours spend to let know scientific community  friendly to me, that I need it, an convince them to help me in many cases  get it for free.
But majority of expenses that made me collect over 400 instruments happened  after my return from  Tbilisi.
If I was secretly, privately, "intimately" suspecting hoax, would I go for  big time lab afterwords ?
do not I have more ideas what to do i life than "defend  dead body"?
do I  have to masturbate my brain over piece of junk  on the table and hundreds of devices around.
do I have to get mental  orgasmic satisfaction  undressing   revelations  of FE.


There is another alternative.
 Give me money and I deliver  working device into  the   doorstep  of your front door.
But that does not suit me, and does not require me to be there.
Any honest man who  has resources on hand  and is driven by idea of  helping  humanity "no matter what" ,can spend his time to convince Ruslan, and plenty of others to give it away using all ray of methods  from extreme positive to extreme negative one.
Your problem  guys is lack of comfort for experimenting without sacrificing your personal needs to survive till tomorrow.
Your problem guys is that you can not afford to pay to someone to prepare to you bench with  hundreds of different   experimental versions of the same.
Your problem guys is that you  most of you can not afford to pay  for parts .
Your problem guys is that you are enslaved yourself to the system , by getting married and having children.
All you can mostly do  by now, is just go to work, and come from work  and dream....
or wait  till you retire to have time but not much money.
Your grandchildren  will likely try to take advantage of whatever your have
and in many cases your married and working children  will likely  put on you a lot of duties  you just happened already  to forget about ( with kids)
Now they have vacations and good time and you are just piece of something  that was once decision maker in the family and now is just and old man..


I have a lot of respect to  sexual orientation.
But just simple  to notice  fact is that  couples without children are getting  very successful/ rich, wealthy in no time.
Politicians and  other institutions do a lot for them just  because they have money.. and their votes counts in election very well.












Wesley
 


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3891 on: August 27, 2015, 03:03:25 AM »
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Fool me around is next to impossible.
I'm just to good  in it.
Can it be that there is magician who is able to do so and I would not be able to detect it?
The answer is  :
The chance is as slim as me being hit by meteor in the same fashion as this one.

It is exactly this arrogant attitude that makes you so easy to fool.


You are "so good in it"... you have all your equipment and all your experience, and you've been exposed to all these "self runners" personally, and you've explained them all ... yet you have never made one yourself. It's not too hard for objective observers to figure out why you haven't been successful.


So the demonstration took place in a garage rather than in someone's shared home ... that doesn't answer my question and you know it. Did you bother to _remove all power to the garage_? How can you be so sure? You can't.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3892 on: August 27, 2015, 04:13:40 AM »
It is exactly this arrogant attitude that makes you so easy to fool.


You are "so good in it"... you have all your equipment and all your experience, and you've been exposed to all these "self runners" personally, and you've explained them all ... yet you have never made one yourself. It's not too hard for objective observers to figure out why you haven't been successful.


So the demonstration took place in a garage rather than in someone's shared home ... that doesn't answer my question and you know it. Did you bother to _remove all power to the garage_? How can you be so sure? You can't.


Very offensive comment you have made.
The answer is: I did not.
I have made sure that  device I'm holding in my hands is  not powered by any external  power supply.




Let me now  redirect the same to you- just the same logic, and  the same  philosophy .
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 Dear.TinselKoala
 Your drill in your house is not connected to the grid and It does not work.........
Did you manage to disconnect  electricity in your own house to make sure that your drill still will not   work and to make sure that  it will not  start  for some reason to work........


Example  #1:
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yet you have never made one yourself.
Tell me how many airplane mechanics examining airplane for its functional performance have build
 that airplane by themselves?

Are they bad mechanics if they did not?
or the are, not so good in it?

Example#2:
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yet you have never made one yourself.
Let's say you questioning random professional in magnetic about the LexusHoverboard  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08pSoZMUT10
and than you questioning random amateur physics fascinate  about the LexusHoverboard
What is the chance that the first man  will give you more incorrect answer, than the random amateur physics fascinate?



It is the same as me asking you:
 what physical phenomenon was utilized in that  device and what is the name of  this  phenomenon other than frozen  ,magnetic flux..
To help you out I  give you the first word - "effect".
That is exactly  difference between you and me.
However there is certain margin of error- of me underestimating your ability to explain it,and yet you might not be able to  give me the right  answer.
So even if the question is relatively easy to answer
the margin  of error is no way to be compared with
" error margin of professional driver"

Got it now?


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From Wesley to TinselKoala :

What sentence is more polite  to you?
sentence #1:Man you need  to fly really very high to shoot me down..
sentence #2:Man I suggest you  to fly really very high altitude with me.







In the statement  I have made   in my post
I have included margin of error.
But  your arrogant thinking simply dismissed it.




I'm not God ,
and
If I'm very good professional buss driver,I'm expected to be  prepared to deal with the biggest number of situations in my  job.
Take simple math.
How many people in the buss, and on the street I must be in contact with during month of September of my 30 year of work  ( eye,attention,driving force range, and so on..)
.......... to be fooled by  very particular one of  them   in my very next ride on Jamaica Ave in Queens New York.
He has  placed into machine fake passenger  pass.( ticket)
In New York  it is unlikely to fool  the  credit cart, the  machine, and that professional driver  by the guy who did it already  number of times.



there are so many "Buss Drivers" and only one TK. They report every incident so it can not be repeated endlessly again and again.
What is the chance that he is going to fool me after he did it to so many guys with deep pocket before..
the trick is good only  for limited number of times
 exactly like  the Lexus Hoverboard... so easy mechanism and yet   It was  need for  Lexus to pay to German inventor to  redirect rights to technology  that is so obvious. Superconductivity  in High temperatures  was known for so many years before.( over 20 years)
So why not TinselKoala
or why not Wesley




Paper clip........ so  simple so easy  So why not TinselKoala
or why not Wesley


Are you TinselKoala
 so primitive that you can not even  bend piece of wire  to the form of a  paper clip?


That is why you have never win big lotto .
Because for you winning lotto is unlikely to happened. ( as is for me)




So that is my margin of error.
I'm not foolish and not arrogant.
At least not yet, and not yet to you...


The chance of me changing my attitude is more likely to happened, than me being fooled  by  TK or anyone  else...








Again I repeat.
you questioning TK..........


Start to question God and you will still  have Vatican.


Wesley

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3893 on: August 27, 2015, 09:03:17 AM »
MarkE, what is your “honest” belief about ALIENS? UFOs? Little “green” men from outer space? Or any life outside this earth?

I seriously don't want to insult nobody but I just want to understand the intelligence of what one intelligent thinks/beliefs about ALIENS!

You should know that there are like three theories regarding them right? I just have a feeling that you don't have not thought that far out in the future, and if you have not, I’m sorry to say you cannot predict stuff at all. :P like talking to a little baby about tellitubbies.

Please don't disappoint in the thinking 10 years into the future 'cause so far, your lazy answers are disappointing :P = as to jbweld a rubber band.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3894 on: August 27, 2015, 09:40:47 AM »
Wesley glad that you are still following your bliss..

It's money that most people have little off to buy the needed parts to make things to happen ...

Try a permanent magnet motor made by Powertec ...

You need a 20 hp at least, has a ferrite magnet core, has a "y" 3 phase 24 vac. rotate shaft at 30 rpm

you will get 40 amps x 3 phase - 120 amps x 24vac -2.8 kw.

The effort to turn the shaft is only 25 foot pound.. Soo something stinks here ...fish from head down..

As the load is 12,  500 watt halogen bulbs, rotating shaft,  the torque on the shaft is reduced as the load is taken ..

Now this does NOT happen with a neo magnet core ... only with an iron / boron magnets this happens..

Try ebay for the " powertec motor"....

p.s.motors are heavy 700 lbs with a 2 3/8" shaft..  this is a brushless dc motor not a brush type and not a servo.

Acca..

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3895 on: August 27, 2015, 12:12:14 PM »

Fool me around is next to impossible.
I'm just to good  in it.
Can it be that there is magician who is able to do so and I would not be able to detect it?
The answer is  :
The chance is as slim as me being hit by meteor in the same fashion as this one.

Wesley
 

Wesley,

I admire your confidence.  8)

Maybe you've been face to face with a very good one.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3896 on: August 27, 2015, 01:23:55 PM »
Wesley,

I admire your confidence.  8)

Maybe you've been face to face with a very good one.


Interesting comment.
suppose I did.


Again,,,, the probability equation:
It works for lottery so  casinos and governments  can make bigger money on it than on tax they collect.
So why this probability equation  philosophy will not work in TK case.








There are so many variables TK  had to be aware  of:
-aware of  the fact that to  fool  former high level generals of Turk Army ( co-owners of TMZ) is equal to be killed.
-aware of the fact that  ministry of finance of " country of birds  called Turks" designated 2.5 mill. that was withdrew in small portions in cash till 2008 and  by that
-aware of fact that   fooling around with  such  high profile  Dacks is  dangerous, as  most of the Birds are corrupted and the only way to get away with it , is finish up the source of the problem -TK.
-aware of the fact that despite collapse of TMZ there was in time frame 2007 till 2008  very important  Turkish guy name : TURK
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Turk was a patent attorney who was so sure that TK device works that he decided to make international patent application and pay all of the fee required from his own packet , in exchange for TK assigning 50% of future profit from any future activity of TK to  Mr. Turk.
Mr Turk was close to TMZ team but independent.
He was hired at first to examine possibility of patent to be made to TMZ.
After TMZ money  was gone he decided to deal with TK on his own.

-away that trick will not work any longer as people  learn the trick pattern.
-away that number of variations is limited.
-away that dealing with Russian can be  even  more dangerous when it comes to scam
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Example:
I was poisoned by the same entity that TK was dealing  with (30k euro) From Riga Latvia.
They have been the guys who payed  for TK and  his crew expenses. (accommodation and trip from Riga Latvia to  Prague , hotel Opera for (2 out of 3 guys)
It was their way to control TK as every single bank transaction must of be first approved,  every time  TK ask for money.
Riga guys did not have problem to pay TK expenses but they did not want  for TK to have money on hand so they did not pay TK before the project is finished.
typical Russian way to keep TK dependent.



TK friends:


TK always have  had  few  guys with  him  called "Friends".( usually heavy drinkers as well)
they supposed to be TK friends but  some of them accepted Lima's money to spy on TK  as well.That is how information on my  trip  to Prague was delivered to them.
TK ( alcoholic) suppose to meet  american (Wesley) However if  Wesley does not come there was another Czech  business guy that never showed up.( I have spoken to him  later on he said that TK was impossible to deal with in his alcoholic amok  at that time.)


So I was poisoned only to be eliminated as " possible  cause of interference"  ( based on  testimony of Koba  nick name David -  one of TK crew of 3 He  was later on paid  by me and decided to give me inside of How that big Riga's chocolate business  works - easy to find name , to big to be not found)
That was enough for Russian to evaluate me as to  be killed.
They have been professionals in sweat food manufacturing .

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I was not yet interfering with their  businesses.
I Was just approaching TK for the first time.
and let me stress it  again:
That was enough for them to  decide about my life or death.


That was also  big expense to  Riga's company
 "of sweet taste murderers"  Guys fallowing me in Prague, guy in the airplane  poisoning food, guys in airport trying to stop me from flying  back (24h delay I was  rejected entry  by crew of that  terminal as I was " to late in gate".)
It turns out that this  particular terminal crew did  not coordinated in their action, with airport administration, And  that explains why everyone from them have been so nervous when dealing with me.( It could be action on their own just known to some guys from that terminal)
However 24 hours later even that I was one of first passengers at the luggage deposit of airlines downstairs, trying to get to the gate, There was  a person in uniform , who spot me before I was able to get to   the cashier. She  ask me  for passport while I was still in line, and than  put sticker to my passport directing me to immediately live the line and go upstairs.
In the gate I was taken to special control room ( opposite to the gate tunnel entrance) where 3  people  have been holding me till  the very end .
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While I was there, I have noticed again that all of them are very stressed and that is unlikely to be noticed in regular airport crew members behavior.
I start to protest (using  argument of contacting with american authorities) and that made them even more nervous, I  was watching   examinator  hands, and telling him that planting anything into my   suitcase will be very foolish move.
Eventually I was  allowed at very last moment to go out of the room, and than the lady  next to  the plane entrance who was not aware of anything   got invalid scan on my passport and ticket.
I protested again  and she said sorry , she just let me in..as if it was not working properly  scanner...
While I was inside the plane I was on  american territory and that was  just to much for Russian entity to deal with in   in such a short time. 
 

The reason I'm giving you all of that details is to show you:
- how  cheap is human life over there.
- how big was my determination to make me, go to TK son house and wait for  presentation instead   of just fallowing the typical to American
action.............. once I'm alive ......I save food for analysis, In Tbilisi go to authorities, stop all of passengers,  point with my finger to the guy who  planted the poison and sue Arline for damages along with  chocolate   company assassin.


I still remember   face of the "big boss" (that is the way Koba described the guy ,TK was dealing with ) waiting for me and TK out of the airport in Tbilisi.
That guy almost made himself comedy trying to read the tag on my suitcase while I loaded it to the car.
Than "big boss" took the front seat next to driver and I  was placed behind him with  TK son next to me.
He started to talk  Russian to me and I responded i  English.( "I do not speak Russian")
Than he switched to English,( not that bad in general)
Than he said that he is going to hotel and very next day  he needs to talk to TK.


Than I did not see TK for few days till the last day of my trip( That matches his behavior with other guys as well)
However there was significant change:
TK never charged me money.
TK was in very bad health ( most of the time  unconscious or drunk)
Drunk person can not  be perfect  in his tricks if any.








I wanted to see TK device instead of making big money on under-killed ( not perfectly  killed  Wesley)
And to be honest .....I  have thought  about it  thousands of times after that.
I have had all of them in that airport and that time  they have been in one place, and I  did not cash it out...For many of you, it would be   better  way to make money than  hunting TK and his "electricity  generator".
I assume I'm not traditional american afterwards.




Wesley
« Last Edit: August 27, 2015, 07:25:51 PM by stivep »

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3897 on: August 27, 2015, 06:16:49 PM »
Wesley any one reading this TK saga will not understand the methods that humans are capable of  real evil..

Chocolate is toxic to dogs...

so is the element polonium ingested as russians have done away with state opponents..

public forum is public and informants are here,  as a person of interest TK is always being watched...

cash money machines will be defended to the death .... oil, gas, nuclear power, etc...life sucks for most people..

Great account of " your trip" as I have been following this now since you bought your lab equipment,  Polish

scientists are the best, my father was also just such a man...   r.I.p. 2015

Acca...

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3898 on: August 27, 2015, 08:17:33 PM »
http://www.google.co.uk/patents/US3913004


A colleague has got this working.
It is the real reactive power machine.


Eat your heart out Hope Girl scammers.


I advise you to really study the patent.




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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #3899 on: August 28, 2015, 04:09:22 AM »
http://www.google.co.uk/patents/US3913004


A colleague has got this working.
It is the real reactive power machine.


Eat your heart out Hope Girl scammers.


I advise you to really study the patent.

ya those scammers hopegirl and her dedicated non scientist little team. misinformation 'specialists' such as ones that keep showing up here to ask gb weld questions mixed with direct insults in this qeg forum.

the ones that were not scammers, were the ones who tried to exactly copy the so called 'open source' plans.
those people deserve a medal for effort. the ones that were not scammers tried their best with what information they had.
those are the people who mean well, not the scammers.




are you saying you have a friend who has been able to get over 100% efficiency?
and he did so by only following the 1975 patent in the link you provided?

sounds impressive! is he going to allow a respectable 3rd party tester to verify it just before people that mean well rush out to order building supplies?
that would be great!