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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1648000 times)

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #810 on: May 10, 2014, 01:22:56 PM »
I called this a scam some weeks ago and no amount of discussion or debate will make this work. I look back at some of the commentators here on past projects trying to defend the impossible. Look at the past..100% failure rate. No harm in trying but in this case someone is cashing in on misrepresenting the truth. My heart goes out to the good people in Taiwan and Morocco that had their hopes built up but people profiteering on false information and promise. Hopegirl is an opportunist lowlife.
How many times have we seen this before and over how many years?
This whole episode is sad and preys on vulnerable people with good intentions.
James need to step up and take some responsibility rather than pandering his ego (and no doubt bank account) as the leader of a new cult. I think the word arsehole would not be out of order. "Show me the data James"
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #811 on: May 10, 2014, 04:53:18 PM »
I called this a scam some weeks ago and no amount of discussion or debate will make this work. I look back at some of the commentators here on past projects trying to defend the impossible. Look at the past..100% failure rate. No harm in trying but in this case someone is cashing in on misrepresenting the truth. My heart goes out to the good people in Taiwan and Morocco that had their hopes built up but people profiteering on false information and promise. Hopegirl is an opportunist lowlife.
How many times have we seen this before and over how many years?
This whole episode is sad and preys on vulnerable people with good intentions.
James need to step up and take some responsibility rather than pandering his ego (and no doubt bank account) as the leader of a new cult. I think the word arsehole would not be out of order. "Show me the data James"
Mark Dansie

So, I suppose she should have called herself FalseHopeGirl then? (Grin)

I will never figure out why folks do such things...greed and ego I guess.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #812 on: May 10, 2014, 05:08:59 PM »
@MarkE

So what is your answer to the venerable question, now?

Q: "A magnet is pulled out of a shorted superconducting aircoil.  Does the magnitude of the final current induced in that coil depend on how quickly the magnet is pulled out ?".
Asked and answered multiple times now.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #812 on: May 10, 2014, 05:08:59 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #813 on: May 10, 2014, 06:03:31 PM »
You can make all the unilateral declarations that you want.  You have not made and cannot make a self running machine much less one that self runs and delivers surplus energy.  You have repeatedly demonstrated your inability to deliver on your blatantly false claims.


Yes MarkE still trying as we all are,  hope to see your working device soon as well.  Have a good one!

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #814 on: May 10, 2014, 07:13:17 PM »
Oh but there is resistance in the DC resistance of the wires, determining the actual utilized output energy compared to the actual input energy is all that matters. The oscillating power is just a side show, which needs to be known only for the purposes of circuit design ect.

Inductive reactance does not consume energy, it restricts it. It can restrict input and/or output depending on the device and the load.

Nor does counter emf consume energy. ie. if we apply a capacitor charged to 20 volts to a 12 volt battery then we are only really applying 8 volts potential difference to the battery due to the counter emf of 12 volts that the battery possesses, however the capacitor ends up charged to 12 volts not 0 volts so the potential equal to the counter emf is not consumed, it's just a kind of offset to get to the point where a potential difference will happen if more voltage is given to the cap.

Similarly when a transformer sees a high counter emf at idle the input is small, then when loaded the transformer sees less counter emf which allows more current to flow and the transfer of energy happens. If counter emf consumed energy the transformer would use more at idle when the counter emf is high. But it doesn't the counter emf restricts the current and power and saves energy.

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So you agree?  DC of course is not a pure energy it is a stored or created potential.  All DC storage units discharge. 


DC transmissions talk about limits due to wire gauge and resistance in the wire, yet how does that change when the same wire is used for AC transmission?   The problem is in the flawed DC theory,  not the wire.   Imbalance creates a need for nature to balance it and she DOES find a way (really many ways).


How does Neuman get so much work done with so little amperage?  So if you are set to think work=amperage then you must justify all your beliefs based on this theory.   Lets admit it,  this box called IEEE training is flawed.  Yet all the believers must rail non-believers and this causes friction here and other (outside that box) forums. 


Even if you think watts=work load your going to have box limitations.  The closer truth is when you get a devices unseen forms or "spirits" moving then the physical follows.   But this is way outside the box limits for most to even accept as possible. 


I know I just stepped into a pooh pile,  but until we are willing to get our minds open we will keep smacking our heads on the brick walls of "closed thinking systems".


The inertia of mass in motion, speed of mass and the unstoppable force ideas are countered by the equal and opposite movements.  So all this "physical" matter can't be the only variables we need to work with,  so now we get to the label zero point energies.   Nice little package to box up and make unclear what was simply the exact opposite of physical matter.


But naming it "the spirit of matter" causes bent attitudes.   Just keep on keeping on then and like the phrase "do what you always have done and you will get what you always have got" will keep a sturdy little box.  Lets remember we want different results than what we have always gotten,  lets remember to be inventive without limiting the creative process.  You can bet those who have had success have.   I may not be keeper of all knowledge but I am not the limiter of it either.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #815 on: May 10, 2014, 08:06:46 PM »

How does Neuman get so much work done with so little amperage? 


I think you are misunderstanding what Joseph Neuman actually did.  With the little input power he put into his machine, he failed to extract and do any real work with the energy oscillating in the machine.   He never power anything with it.  He just show people meters displaying the oscillating voltage and current in the system, and that as I explained previously though my examples of tank circuit spice simulations, can be very misleading if interpreted carelessly.

Now with the QEG, I have found ways in simulation to extract significant power from the primary circuit and do useful work with it.  That the QEG is capable of that is clear to me.  The question that still remains is how much power needs to be applied to the rotor of the QEG to get that amount of power out of it.  So far the best efficiency any replicator has reported is 0.35, and even that was reported without any details about just how that figure was determined.

Could you ask the replicators to be more forthcoming with their data and methods?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #816 on: May 10, 2014, 10:01:52 PM »
Hope,

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DC transmissions talk about limits due to wire gauge and resistance in the wire, yet how does that change when the same wire is used for AC transmission?   The problem is in the flawed DC theory,  not the wire.   Imbalance creates a need for nature to balance it and she DOES find a way (really many ways).

It's clear from your prose that you don't even know where the box is or what it looks like.  You can't say that something is flawed if you are ignorant about the subject matter.

It's the Indy 500 and the main driver for the racing team is sick and can't enter the race.  Joe Blow walks in off the street and says, "I drive an ice cream delivery truck, I'll drive!"

It doesn't work like that.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #817 on: May 10, 2014, 10:40:13 PM »
Hope,

It's clear from your prose that you don't even know where the box is or what it looks like.  You can't say that something is flawed if you are ignorant about the subject matter.

It's the Indy 500 and the main driver for the racing team is sick and can't enter the race.  Joe Blow walks in off the street and says, "I drive an ice cream delivery truck, I'll drive!"

It doesn't work like that.

What about Danny Sullivan?  He was a NY cab driver and won Indy.

But seriously, I totally agree with the point you made.  A solid foundation of knowledge of what has been done before is needed before one can speak about being "out of the box."  I am glad that guys like you, TK, .99 and Mark E. provide that for those of us still learning about what the box is.  Only then can we think out of it.

Bill

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #818 on: May 10, 2014, 11:45:54 PM »
Maybe it was meant good from Robitaille and Hopegirl to really bring something forward....
Maybe Robitaille  only did miscalculate his output power and in rushing this out they made
the mistakes by claiming something they never had also thinking they would have achieved the
same as the fake WITTS device, which does not work, cause it is powered by hidden 120 Volts AC wires...

The only way they still could maybe get OU is,
if they would try to use the
Aviso Konehead Coil Shorting Technolgy to chop the output current into spikes and then use the BackEMF to collect the
output energy via bridge rectifiers...

Only then you can violate the Lenz law and thus might get OU...
with the normal output coils as they have it now, you can not violate Lenz, as the output current
drags the rotor down...

I would highly advise the people experimenting with the QEG to try this.

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #819 on: May 11, 2014, 12:57:11 AM »

Only then you can violate the Lenz law and thus might get OU...
with the normal output coils as they have it now, you can not violate Lenz, as the output current
drags the rotor down...

I would highly advise the people experimenting with the QEG to try this.

Regards, Stefan.

I tend to doubt Lenz drag will be the most significant factor in the loading of the system driving the QEG.  From my analysis so far, it appears that the fundamental mechanism for loading the system driving the QEG will be cogging torque.  That is the amount of power required to pull the rotor away from a pole.  The more the current in the primary circuit of the QEG builds, the more strongly the poles attract the rotor, and the more power it requires to move the rotor away from the poles. 

There will be some drag created by eddy currents in the laminations of the rotor, although as I have mentioned before those laminations are designed to minimize the formation of eddy currents.  Because the rotor is devoid of windings by design, and because armature windings are the primary source of Lenz drag in electric machines, I expect the cogging torque in the QEG to be many times greater then the Lenz drag created by any eddy currents that form in the rotor. 

In any case core losses in M19 24 gauge laminations is listed at 2 watt/lbs when the material is driven to 10,000 Gauss at 60Hz.  This figure includes both hysteresis and eddy current losses.  In a previous post I believe I mentioned that I estimated the core loss figure for the M19 material operating at 400Hz to be in the range of 12 to 15 W/lbs.  That would put the core loss figure for the entire 72.6 lbs QEG core in the range of 871 to 1089 watts.   

I now have all the information needed to construct the multi-dimensional interpolation tables required for my QEG SPICE Model 2.0.  This new model will be able to calculate input power as well as output power for the QEG.

Stayed tuned, same OU forum, same OU thread...

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #820 on: May 11, 2014, 01:12:51 AM »

Yes MarkE still trying as we all are,  hope to see your working device soon as well.  Have a good one!
Unlike you I have not made false claims to a perpetual motion machine.  Unlike you I have not raised money to pay for globetrotting trips by building up hopes to help the poor.  What I design works.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #821 on: May 11, 2014, 01:29:22 AM »

So you agree?  DC of course is not a pure energy it is a stored or created potential.  All DC storage units discharge. 
Hopeless Girl you are so FoS.
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DC transmissions talk about limits due to wire gauge and resistance in the wire, yet how does that change when the same wire is used for AC transmission?   The problem is in the flawed DC theory,  not the wire.   Imbalance creates a need for nature to balance it and she DOES find a way (really many ways).
There is no flaw that you can point to in conventional analysis of either DC or AC circuits.  I bet you don't know that the AC resistance of a wire is greater than the DC resistance.  In terms of resistance a 30AWG wire is as good / as bad as a 12AWG wire at 1MHz.  At DC a 12AWG wire has about 1/64th the resistance of the same length of 30AWG wire.
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How does Neuman get so much work done with so little amperage?  So if you are set to think work=amperage then you must justify all your beliefs based on this theory.
Current is neither energy nor power.  Current is the amount of charge passing through a cross-section per unit time.
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   Lets admit it,  this box called IEEE training is flawed.
Let's admit the obvious:  You are a fraud and your fraud is now well exposed.  What is your exit strategy?
Quote
 

Yet all the believers must rail non-believers and this causes friction here and other (outside that box) forums. 
Any friction is a result of your continuous lying.
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Even if you think watts=work load your going to have box limitations.
Watts are a measure of power, not energy.
Quote

  The closer truth is when you get a devices unseen forms or "spirits" moving then the physical follows.
Pixies do not run the universe.
Quote
 

 But this is way outside the box limits for most to even accept as possible. 
Such ideas are rejected because they are unabated BS.
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I know I just stepped into a pooh pile,  but until we are willing to get our minds open we will keep smacking our heads on the brick walls of "closed thinking systems".
You have no evidence to support your claims.  Open mindedness is about fairly evaluating evidence.  The only evidence that you present is of just how FoS you are.
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The inertia of mass in motion,
Inertia is independent of speed.  A mass exhibits the same inertia whether completely at rest or moving 100,000 mph within its frame of reference.
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speed of mass and the unstoppable force ideas are countered by the equal and opposite movements.
Wrong.  Newton's Laws correctly teach us that reaction force is a function of acceleration, not speed.
Quote
 

So all this "physical" matter can't be the only variables we need to work with,  so now we get to the label zero point energies.   Nice little package to box up and make unclear what was simply the exact opposite of physical matter. 
Does this BS come to you naturally, or do you work at cooking it up?
Quote


But naming it "the spirit of matter" causes bent attitudes.
The BS "it" does not exist.  If you think differently, show evidence.  So, far the only evidence you have shown is that your claims are false and that you have zero understanding of ordinary physics.
Quote
   

Just keep on keeping on then and like the phrase "do what you always have done and you will get what you always have got" will keep a sturdy little box.  Lets remember we want different results than what we have always gotten,  lets remember to be inventive without limiting the creative process.
You can wish for nature to be different than it is all you want.  Nature will be unmoved.
Quote
 

You can bet those who have had success have.   I may not be keeper of all knowledge but I am not the limiter of it either.
Quite the contrary:  You spew worthless nonsense to extract money from gullible people.  You are a loathsome individual.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #822 on: May 11, 2014, 01:31:10 AM »
I think you are misunderstanding what Joseph Neuman actually did.  With the little input power he put into his machine, he failed to extract and do any real work with the energy oscillating in the machine.   He never power anything with it.  He just show people meters displaying the oscillating voltage and current in the system, and that as I explained previously though my examples of tank circuit spice simulations, can be very misleading if interpreted carelessly.

Now with the QEG, I have found ways in simulation to extract significant power from the primary circuit and do useful work with it.  That the QEG is capable of that is clear to me.  The question that still remains is how much power needs to be applied to the rotor of the QEG to get that amount of power out of it.  So far the best efficiency any replicator has reported is 0.35, and even that was reported without any details about just how that figure was determined.

Could you ask the replicators to be more forthcoming with their data and methods?

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Speaking of the IEEE do we have any members in the house.  I need a copy of a paper pulled.
Non members can buy papers.  Even members have to pay for most papers one way or another.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #823 on: May 11, 2014, 01:33:53 AM »
Maybe it was meant good from Robitaille and Hopegirl to really bring something forward....
Maybe Robitaille  only did miscalculate his output power and in rushing this out they made
the mistakes by claiming something they never had also thinking they would have achieved the
same as the fake WITTS device, which does not work, cause it is powered by hidden 120 Volts AC wires...

The only way they still could maybe get OU is,
if they would try to use the
Aviso Konehead Coil Shorting Technolgy to chop the output current into spikes and then use the BackEMF to collect the
output energy via bridge rectifiers...

Only then you can violate the Lenz law and thus might get OU...
with the normal output coils as they have it now, you can not violate Lenz, as the output current
drags the rotor down...

I would highly advise the people experimenting with the QEG to try this.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan:  Ismael Aviso is another liar just like Hopeless Girl.  He has apparently turned his attention to selling bottled water.  His various claimed energy inventions were all BS, as was his claims to having developed his own semiconductors.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #824 on: May 11, 2014, 01:50:29 AM »
Non members can buy papers.  Even members have to pay for most papers one way or another.

I thought if you paid the $100/yr membership fee or whatever it it now, you were able to get copies of archived papers at zero additional cost.

Anyway, I found my way to get by without it.  It still would be good to read it though.

 

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