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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1418372 times)

Offline Marshallin

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #465 on: April 23, 2014, 08:32:44 PM »
"Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded"

Give it break, device is maybe fake. But idea behind it may be interesting.

We all know that earth produce a lot of energy. We are just too stupid to know how to use it right  now...

Exciter circuit on picture dont give to me much sense. I realy dont thnik right now that spak gap with some induction and capacity can make much positive diference. But i need to do still some tests with spark gaps generaly.

I dont like how much people using word "resonance" ... it almost look like magic. ;)

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #466 on: April 23, 2014, 09:32:40 PM »
I am only using primary windings at the moment because I still have yet to figure out how to attach a load to the secondary in FEMM.  The secondary would just be open ended and generate a voltage without any current flow. 
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You can simulate a load by putting an apposing current in the secondary, you have to play with the current number until you find the most power/current you can reasonable put through without stopping or reversing the flux going through. In the snapshot below I have tried putting 4.5 amps in the secondary and the simulation shows what that does against a .65 amp push from the primary. with zero amp in the secondary the numbers are still interesting because it will tell you how much voltage you can expect to measure across the coil with no load.


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[/font]The primary I am using for this is 1550 turns of 20awg wire, which is 1/2 the turns of the original 3100.  I set the current at 0.9 amps and raised the frequency of operation to 1kHz to prevent saturating the core.  That is maintaining the flux density under 1.5 Tesla's for the M19 silicon steel laminations.  This type of core is usually only driven to 1.0 T to 1.5 T because the material saturates at around 2 T.  If the core saturates, it would allow large current surges to propagate though the windings and cause bad things to happen.  I set the gap between the stator and rotor at 0.025".



What "bad things" might happen if the core saturates (at any particular frequency)?


The numbers I am interested in are the from the Circuit Properties Results for the Primary:
Voltage Drop
Flux Linkage
Flux/Current
Voltage/Current
Real Power
Reactive Power
Apparent Power
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At the moment I am preparing an animation of the flux density during a full rotation of the armature.


Great! I saw the animation, it is interesting to watch.
May I suggest that you should standardize the color scale for the flux density plot so that it is easier to tell what is actually going on. Otherwise femm will re-scale each frame and that is why you get the flashing color effects. It is also helpful to turn on the magnitude vectors plot "->" (B_re) which will show you north and south and provide additional information as to the strength of the flux.


I'm now wondering how this compares to the actual configuration of SEG since both your model and now mine has a double wide rotor compared to the posted SEG drawing. I would really love to see a scope shot of the WITTS/Trapp prototype QEG output voltage and current under load.




Here is my update, I have slimmed down the main core to 3/4 " and left the rotor at 1 1/2", its original size. It has the .026 diameter gap as described, which is a radius of .013. It has the same number of turns 3100. With the full size core it would look very differently (probably have much less ability to sustain the secondary current) so I don't know if there are any conclusions that can be drawn from this analysis compared to the WITTS prototype QEG.


I have to admit I still don't see how the QEG can work good maybe it doesn't. When you look carefully at the Trapp video you can't really tell if the rotor dimensions are 2:1 like this, or 1:1 like the plans that were posted.


One thing for sure, WITTS/Trapp talks like a Christian free energy evangelist that wants to bring their technology to the world, but acts like every other greedy inventor, because for one thing, they will only "give" out their information and "free licensing to build up to 3 devices" after a required minimum "donation" has been made and they still claim they are not "selling" anything, what a farce.


Here with a simulated load of 4.5 amps at 400hz numbers:
Primary:

Total current = 0.65 Amps
Voltage Drop = 2923.19+I*25197.2 Volts
Flux Linkage = 10.0256-I*1.15361 Webers
Flux/Current = 15.4241-I*1.77478 Henries
Voltage/Current = 4497.21+I*38764.9 Ohms
Real Power = 950.036 Watts
Reactive Power = 8189.08 VAr
Apparent Power = 8244 VA


Secondary:

Total current = 4.5 Amps
Voltage Drop = -316.671-I*1567.72 Volts
Flux Linkage = -0.623777+I*0.126728 Webers
Flux/Current = -0.138617+I*0.0281619 Henries
Voltage/Current = -70.3713-I*348.383 Ohms
Real Power = -712.51 Watts
Reactive Power = -3527.38 VAr
Apparent Power = 3598.62 VA

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #467 on: April 23, 2014, 11:41:41 PM »

You can simulate a load by putting an apposing current in the secondary, you have to play with the current number until you find the most power/current you can reasonable put through without stopping or reversing the flux going through. In the snapshot below I have tried putting 4.5 amps in the secondary and the simulation shows what that does against a .65 amp push from the primary. with zero amp in the secondary the numbers are still interesting because it will tell you how much voltage you can expect to measure across the coil with no load.


I'll have to try that.

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What "bad things" might happen if the core saturates (at any particular frequency)?

 

As I mentioned current surges.  When a core goes into saturation the control of the current flow by core inductance is lost, and the transformer then starts acting like an air core transformer with much less inductance.  That loss of inductance mean a loss of current control.  When the current is allow to surge it can over heat the windings and cause insulation failure.  When the insulation fails, the coil shorts out either between turns or to the core.  Over heating can also cause the varnish on the transformer if any to burn etc.

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The numbers I am interested in are the from the Circuit Properties Results for the Primary:

Voltage Drop
Flux Linkage
Flux/Current
Voltage/Current
Real Power
Reactive Power
Apparent Power

Great! I saw the animation, it is interesting to watch.

May I suggest that you should standardize the color scale for the flux density plot so that it is easier to tell what is actually going on. Otherwise femm will re-scale each frame and that is why you get the flashing color effects. It is also helpful to turn on the magnitude vectors plot "->" (B_re) which will show you north and south and provide additional information as to the strength of the flux.


Yeah, I'm already on that.  I am also making finer steps between images.  There will now be 144 separate images per rotation.

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I'm now wondering how this compares to the actual configuration of SEG since both your model and now mine has a double wide rotor compared to the posted SEG drawing. I would really love to see a scope shot of the WITTS/Trapp prototype QEG output voltage and current under load.


Yes.  It's frustrating that Hope Girl is talking too much, and James is talking too little.  There is another video posted yesterday or the day before that provides a few more tidbits from James, although sound, comprehensive stats and scope shots still have yet to be forthcoming.  However In the latest vid James does talk a little about using a scope to tune the QEG.

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Here is my update, I have slimmed down the main core to 3/4 " and left the rotor at 1 1/2", its original size. It has the .026 diameter gap as described, which is a radius of .013. It has the same number of turns 3100. With the full size core it would look very differently (probably have much less ability to sustain the secondary current) so I don't know if there are any conclusions that can be drawn from this analysis compared to the WITTS prototype QEG.

I have to admit I still don't see how the QEG can work good maybe it doesn't. When you look carefully at the Trapp video you can't really tell if the rotor dimensions are 2:1 like this, or 1:1 like the plans that were posted.


As transformers go the general rule of thumb is that the lamination stack height to the center tongue width in standard EI cores, which is what the rotor in this case equates too, can be anywhere from 1:1 to 2:1.  So, there is room for adjustment as needed there.

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One thing for sure, WITTS/Trapp talks like a Christian free energy evangelist that wants to bring their technology to the world, but acts like every other greedy inventor, because for one thing, they will only "give" out their information and "free licensing to build up to 3 devices" after a required minimum "donation" has been made and they still claim they are not "selling" anything, what a farce.

Here with a simulated load of 4.5 amps at 400hz numbers:

Primary:

Total current = 0.65 Amps
Voltage Drop = 2923.19+I*25197.2 Volts
Flux Linkage = 10.0256-I*1.15361 Webers
Flux/Current = 15.4241-I*1.77478 Henries
Voltage/Current = 4497.21+I*38764.9 Ohms
Real Power = 950.036 Watts
Reactive Power = 8189.08 VAr
Apparent Power = 8244 VA

Secondary:

Total current = 4.5 Amps
Voltage Drop = -316.671-I*1567.72 Volts
Flux Linkage = -0.623777+I*0.126728 Webers
Flux/Current = -0.138617+I*0.0281619 Henries
Voltage/Current = -70.3713-I*348.383 Ohms
Real Power = -712.51 Watts
Reactive Power = -3527.38 VAr
Apparent Power = 3598.62 VA


Excellent! 

I'll get some numbers up when I finish the second animation.

Cheers,

FB


PS  The dimensions of the QEG core are probably the WITTS dimensions verbatim.  In the Skype chat video or the audio only video from Morocco, James talks about how the rewinding of the Taiwan core after the primary failure resulted in the surface of one of the rewound primaries with interlayer insulation being too close to the rotor.  By thinning the stator by moving the inside surface of the stator laminations that holds the windings farther to the outside, that problem is alleviated.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #467 on: April 23, 2014, 11:41:41 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #468 on: April 24, 2014, 01:39:50 AM »
Now, after my rant against NSA and/or energy industrial complex stalkers (actually the two are a team anyway), totally coincedently I just received a PM. After several weeks of no interest, suddently somebody want to buy 150g of my gadolinium (see marketplace section).

The user has just opened an account, has zero postings. Am I paranoid when I smell a dead fish here?

That's how it works. They identify you, put you on a dead list, then you'll lose everything: job, home, friends, and most targets die soon after.

The slave planet, run by the pseudohumans is truely a fashist state.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #469 on: April 24, 2014, 02:00:05 AM »
You are a real hoot Dieter.  Can't you imagine the headlines on cnn.com, "Pulse Motor Enthusiast Threatens Military-Industrial Complex."

Meanwhile, back in the real world from Sean with the big Karma:

http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-general-topics/278-resonance-question-self-running-video?start=6

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Just to be clear to the so-called ´healthy skeptics´ amongst you
 
 This forum supports those who strongly resonate with the impression that the QEG, and the technology involved,  requires more than just an engineer’s degree and logical mechanical thinking to make her work.
 On the one hand the QEG is indeed a machine, but a totally different kind of machine than the ones we are so familiar with. It is true that she may need a skilled technician to build her, but truly requires a shift in consciousness to understand what makes her ´tick´. And that´s where one´s attitude in this whole process can and will make a difference….
 
 Take for example the "double-slit experiment," where the mere act of ´observation´ can completely change the outcome of an event. There are a number of things so far, involving the measurable part of the QEG, which currently may not make any sense… but then perhaps it needs a different level of sensitivity all together. Your presence, your state of mind, your attitude are believed to be key ingredients in observing the successful creation of this free energy device. This forum supports that belief and vision.
 
 In short: There is no place for skepticism in this forum, you won´t get far trying to court a lady with skepticism, cause truly that is what the QEG is, a Lady with a mind and a will of her own.
 
 So, having said that, I am sure there are those who do not agree with the rules and guidelines of the forum, which is fine but I suggest to then find another place to continue your discussions.
 The forum moderators already have spent a lot of time and care in explaining to individuals why certain posts do not resonate with the forum rules, which is respectful but at same time to be honest I think they have better things to do with their time. Therefor please note that the decision to edit or remove a post is up to the moderators and not users, moderation doesn´t need further explanation and their decision is not open for debate.
 
 Thank you

Instead, they should make it a crime to make thoughtcrime a crime.  Think of all the possibilities that would open up like the petals of the Flower of Knowledge ushering in a new age.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #469 on: April 24, 2014, 02:00:05 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #470 on: April 24, 2014, 08:26:08 AM »
Kudos to Lindemann for that report. It is very important for all "QEG" builders to read and understand what Peter is saying in that report. The "QEG" will NOT work as WhateverGirl and Robitaille claim it will. Never, no way Jose, and Peter and his friends explored the entire problem space long ago. I am not too concerned about the paltry claim of COP = 1.2..... that is sufficiently close to the noise floor as to not be exciting or even worth "replicating" his series of experiments to track down the ultimate error. His error analysis and correct recognition of the great reactive power in the system is much more important.

Here is the very most problematic statement in Lindemann's report:

Translation: We did not get the results we wanted, so why report anything?

It should be clear that this is egregious pseudoscientific misconduct. When you do an experiment and you get NULL RESULTS.... it is just as important to report those, perhaps even more important than your ... perhaps bogus ... "positive" results that appear to support your hypothesis.
Please refer to the Scientific Method: experiments are done with the purpose of _falsifying_ hypotheses. When you FAIL to falsify your hypothesis, MAYBE it is supported by your results. But when you DO falsify your hypothesis.... by producing "experimental results that are disappointing".... then you KNOW that your experiment does not support the hypothesis. For sure. This is VERY IMPORTANT information, and people who do not publish null results are doing a profound disservice to the community of researchers, as well as violating a fundamental principle, a core component, of the Scientific Method.


"It should be clear that this is egregious pseudoscientific misconduct. When you do an experiment and you get NULL RESULTS.... it is just as important to report those, perhaps even more important than your ... perhaps bogus ... "positive" results that appear to support your hypothesis.
Please refer to the Scientific Method: experiments are done with the purpose of _falsifying_ hypotheses. When you FAIL to falsify your hypothesis, MAYBE it is supported by your results. But when you DO falsify your hypothesis.... by producing "experimental results that are disappointing".... then you KNOW that your experiment does not support the hypothesis. For sure. This is VERY IMPORTANT information, and people who do not publish null results are doing a profound disservice to the community of researchers, as well as violating a fundamental principle, a core component, of the Scientific Method."



Amen bro. Tin....Though, if I were to speak up every time I ever failed, my vocal cords would be worn out by now. 


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #471 on: April 24, 2014, 10:20:18 AM »
Quote from: TinselizedKoalala
"It should be clear that this is egregious pseudoscientific misconduct. When you do an experiment and you get NULL RESULTS.... it is just as important to report those, perhaps even more important than your ... perhaps bogus ... "positive" results that appear to support your hypothesis.
Please refer to the Scientific Method: experiments are done with the purpose of _falsifying_ hypotheses. When you FAIL to falsify your hypothesis, MAYBE it is supported by your results. But when you DO falsify your hypothesis.... by producing "experimental results that are disappointing".... then you KNOW that your experiment does not support the hypothesis. For sure. This is VERY IMPORTANT information, and people who do not publish null results are doing a profound disservice to the community of researchers, as well as violating a fundamental principle, a core component, of the Scientific Method."



Amen bro. Tin....Though, if I were to speak up every time I ever failed, my vocal cords would be worn out by now. 


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Astute observations.

The love of money is capable of compromising
integrity even in the world of "science."

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #472 on: April 24, 2014, 01:23:20 PM »
HopeGirl Shares Her Feelings And Sexual Thoughts About The QEG From Morocco

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thecollectiveimagination/2014/04/21/the-one-people-2122-april-2014/scrub/2838

You can't make this stuff up, download it and confirm for yourself towards end of broadcast, time markers and transcript included below:

1:20:57 We call the QEG a she, she is a being.  She has a personality, she has a way of dictating things, she has a way of pulling people into a group to build her and pushing certain people out because they might have hidden agendas.

1:22:10 I personally feel very very connected to the QEG.  I feel very connected to her, I feel that she wants something. she needs something, she wants the people that are working around her to learn a lesson or to discover something about themselves in the process and as soon as we discover that then we can move forward.

1:22:30 So how does this relate to  s e x?  What we are doing here is creation, our sexuality is our power.

1:23:07 The QEG is creating a desire.  A desire in all of our hearts that are here to bring this parts towards us, to pull these parts in.   

1:23:33 The really difficult parts, they are here (Morocco).  The two main parts that are still missing, that we're trying to get a hold off, is the core which is now waiting for us at customs, which we think we're going to get tomorrow, which is a round shape, a female shape.  And the shaft, which is a long pole, that goes into it.  The QEG is creating a desire in the hearts of all of us here.  And the core is desiring her shaft, and these people are getting on airplanes to bring the shaft and the core together.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #473 on: April 25, 2014, 12:17:21 AM »
Why does a man make 3000 posts on a overunity forum, when he does not believe in overunity at all?


What can we do against the presence of such specisms?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #473 on: April 25, 2014, 12:17:21 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #474 on: April 25, 2014, 12:42:01 AM »
We shall know them by their fruits dieter.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #475 on: April 25, 2014, 01:12:37 AM »
Dieter,

There have been many interesting debates and lots of free energy propositions discussed.  Many people have been helped to understand their circuits.  That's what makes the place more interesting.  If it was nothing but mass agreement and mass failure and mass agreement and mass failure without end, that would be pretty boring, don't you think so?  I seem to recall that you put forward a proposition and someone else explained to you why it wouldn't work and instead of trying to defend your proposition with solid technical arguments you had a small emotional meltdown.  That's not a way to find free energy, is it?

Captain Zero,

I am not in any way related to the dreaded Blue Meanies in Black.  You are just going to have to cope with that fact.  The vast majority of the experiments that take place here are just electronics beginners that struggle to get by and they didn't buy the "Basic Electronics for Beginners" book.  If you think that the Blue Meanies have to worry about that you are disconnected from reality.  Then the pros come along (or pros in a new guise like HopeGirl) and they are almost at the same level.  If anything ever comes up that has even the tiniest kernel of credibility I will state that, why wouldn't I?  The problem with you is that there is never ever any technical contribution from you.  You are a passive cheerleader on the sidelines presumably cheering on anything that "sounds" good to your nearly tone deaf ears.

Why didn't HopeGirl and company show a credible video of the alleged one-week over unity run of the QEG?  Why didn't they cook hot dogs and run a disco with all of that alleged free energy?  The most likely answer was to prey on people like you.  I am not here to "protect" you, spend all your money on magic beans if you want.  But I like doing what I think is right, even if that is to your chagrin because you are all excited about the 664th circuit that you have seen that uses coils and transistors.  Perhaps if they change the gage of the wire and add 1/4 extra turn to the coil and hop on one foot they will get free energy out of the coil.  Build it yourself and hop, you never know!

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #475 on: April 25, 2014, 01:12:37 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #476 on: April 25, 2014, 01:52:20 AM »
MileHigh,

You keep seeing yourself reflected in my words, which is interesting to note...yet i have accused you on nothing.

You know very well it is the opinion of myself and others here that the path to free energy does not pass through an electronics book...yet you go on as if you haven't read those words here, which is also interesting to note.

And I'm reasonably sure everyone else here sees and recognizes this is the same pattern in their dealings with you.

Thow doeth protest too much.

Now if I had your technical knowledge, if I was interested in free energy development, I would restrict my participation to that of an adviser to all these enthusiastic experimenters who require only the odd tip.

There is no imagination in an electronics book...only rigid structure.

It will be interesting to note how you address or avoid addressing this far too long response in a point by point manner.

Regards...

 

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #477 on: April 25, 2014, 01:57:32 AM »
...

Now if I had your technical knowledge, ...

Regards...


@Cap-Z
This forum does not require a lot of real technical knowledge. Some try real hard to impress others but the truth is often not the case. Just saying.


cheers
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #478 on: April 25, 2014, 02:06:54 AM »

" @Cap-Z
This forum does not require a lot of real technical knowledge. Some try real hard to impress others but the truth is often not the case. Just saying.


cheers
chrisC "



"This forum does not require a lot of real technical knowledge."
That was never my assertion chris.

"Some try real hard to impress others but the truth is often not the case. Just saying."
Not sure how often, but I would agree.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #479 on: April 25, 2014, 02:24:47 AM »
Why does a man make 3000 posts on a overunity forum, when he does not believe in overunity at all?


What can we do against the presence of such specisms?
Produce evidence.

 

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