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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1415909 times)

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #405 on: April 21, 2014, 06:22:08 AM »
F_Brown,

I am attaching the schematic that is in the main pdf as a guideline.  I am not sure how accurate this schematic is and of course we don't have any definitive test and setup information from anywhere right now.  For example, I read comments about the dot convention on the schematic and people were questioning if it was valid or not.  In theory, the two separate windings on the core for the LC resonator should put the flux in the same direction through the core.  On the QEG forum some people were speculating that in fact the flux was going in opposite directions to reduce the effective inductance for the LC resonator to bring the resonant frequency up towards 400 Hz.  That would be crazy because that would cause an AC short circuit which would destroy the energy in the capacitors and kill the resonator.

I am not sure how experienced you are with your simulator, but I do know that if you could see their test waveforms and got all of their measurements and setup data, in theory you could do a quite accurate simulation of the performance of the setup.  You have to take liberties of course, for example you can't simulate the physical action of rotor with respect to what it does electrically, but you can come up with some kind of alternative to what the rotor is doing.  For now, I am assuming what others are assuming.  The assumption is that the spinning rotor causes small currents to flow due to a small remnant magnetization in the core and that bootstraps itself into higher amplitudes because of the power injection from the spinning rotor.

One suggestion for you is to try a voltage source as the stimulation instead of a current source.  A current source will output progressively more power the higher the resistance it sees or the higher the EMF or voltage it has to overcome.  If you do try a voltage source as the stimulation, you will probably have to decouple it from the rest of the simulation with a series resistor.  I am assuming that your voltage source model has an output impedance of zero, and that will lock or force whatever it is driving to be in step with it.  Experimenting with different series resistor values may be necessary.  It's possible that a voltage source with a series resistor will make the LC resonator go to high amplitudes also but it will take a lot of cycles.

Going back to my earlier postings, and looking at the QED schematic, you can see how when the rotor rotates through +45 or -45 degrees, that's when you get the "transient" stimulation and then outside those two angles the stimulation is completely disconnected from the funky LC resonator.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #406 on: April 21, 2014, 06:36:37 AM »
Good thoughts.  I played around a little with different ways to drive the tank.  The way I do it in the images presented was the easiest and most direct.  I'll see what else I can come up with. 

I think the phase dots are wrong.  My first impression is that if one puts two windings with equal amounts of turns in bucking configuration like that, nothing will happen.  They will cancel each other.  Now, there might be some funky redirection of flux going on, although I it's more probable that they would just cancel each other electrically and magnetically, the secondaries as well.  It would be helpful to be able to build one, and probe just what's going on. 

I have to try and figure out what they are even attempting to accomplish with the exciter.  I have a good spark gap model I got for my Tesla Hair Pin simulation.  So I can model the entire exciter well.

Driving the tank with voltage could be done this way, see attached schematic.  Although I'm at a loss as to how to calculate the input power this way.  My attempts to use a serial resistor and a voltage source fail to work well.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #407 on: April 21, 2014, 10:20:05 AM »
In some ways this is a rather interesting thread.

I am a hopeful optimist that humanity will discover and embrace a technology or technologies that will deliver us from the limited utility of deadly polluting fossil fuels and the concomitant financial slavery and philosophical coercion. And I also have a strong personal religious belief and believe that it is possible for a Higher Power to intervene and provide help to us.

I believe that IF God wanted to provide us with free energy then God could inspire someone such as the HopeGirl team and foreign groups to meet and work together to refine and develop and distribute workable reiterations of established free energy technology. I have become tentatively convinced that Tesla discovered and refined and produced working free energy generators. So, in summation, I believe it is possible that HopeGirl and associated parties COULD be acting on genuine inspiration from God.

BUT.....granted that my research and insights on Tesla technology is woefully far from complete, I have to say that the HopeGirl team seems to be utterly clueless about the nature of the Tesla technology. I have not read one word about their understanding of the technology that even comes close to matching the theories and engineering principles that Tesla seems to have been using. It is very difficult to determine what Tesla actually did, he did not exactly leave us a Free Energy For Dummies recipe book! But there is a rather large amount of literature that has been published, including many very insightful commentaries and personal conclusions and descriptions of what he must have been thinking compared to what is verifiably known about his results. And there is a large body of quoted Tesla material containing smatterings of his own descriptions of his technology. So it is possible to compare what HopeGirl team knows compares to what he actually did.

Thus far they are not even in the right ballpark. I could have cried in despair when I read about their using a spark plug as Tesla's spark gap. The spark gap is an extremely crucial item, not just an ornament.

It would delight me to see workable and provable free energy made widely available to humanity. I hope and pray that HopeGirl Team does it. I am earnestly trying to do it.  And it would prove that God can inspire people to do something right even if they do not know what they are doing but are simply willing to trust God and try to do a righteous thing.

It would be wonderful if we do see the Tesla free energy technology resurrected out of its tomb and see it freely roaming to every human who can be benefited by it.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #407 on: April 21, 2014, 10:20:05 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #408 on: April 21, 2014, 10:46:46 AM »
Which god?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #409 on: April 21, 2014, 01:41:01 PM »
Indeed.  In a similar vein, I am not a big Tesla reader and all that stuff, but I question the notion of "Tesla free energy technology."  The idea that Tesla left "hints" about this and all that you have to do is "connect the dots" could very well be just wishful thinking mixed together with intentional disinformation.

I can speculate the reason for the intentional disinformation does not from from Big Government or some Evil Cabal, rather it comes from "us" the people that make a living writing books and talking about Tesla and fantasizing about him and worshiping him like he himself is some sort of god.  He did some very great things, like being the first person to engineer the power grid that completely changed society.  But the problem is that it's too "easy" to believe more than that.  So you end up with HopeGirl namedropping "Tesla" and ka-ching!  More people click on the "Donate" button.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #409 on: April 21, 2014, 01:41:01 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #410 on: April 21, 2014, 02:09:24 PM »
Quantum Tesla scalar vortex! Parametric longitudinal re-gauging! It's the richest kind!

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #411 on: April 21, 2014, 05:59:56 PM »
MilesHigh,

After some reflecting on the phasing dots this morning I realized that if the coils were arranged in bucking configuration, then when the rotor is in between poles, the coils will cancel out, and when the rotor is aligned with a pole, the flux will then flow though the rotor, allowing the magnetic field in each half of the stator as divided by the rotor to flow in opposite directions. 

This would sort of be similar to what would happen in a typical EI core, if the windings were wound on the out side legs instead of the middle one.  Also for this arrangement to work in the QEG I would expect the rotor to have twice the cross-sectional area of the stator, as the middle leg of an EI core does compared to the outside legs.

Additionally I got LTSpice to calculate a time varying value of inductance, although the resulting model fails to drive the tank circuit into significant oscillation.  Also with the time varying inductance there is a loss of a single sharp resonant peak in the system. 
SPICE is just the wrong application to model this device, because it fails to model the flux gating of the core.  What is needed is a magnetic modeling application that can also handle circuity.  Do we have anyone skilled in the art or magnetic modeling in the house?

Anyway, with the time varying value of inductance, I set it for 15H +/- 5H, I found that the main resonance which was only slightly dominant shifted from 411 Hz to 1328 Hz.  I change the capacitance value to 11 nano-farads and that brought the main resonance to 400 Hz.  Then varying the inductance value at 400 Hz failed to drive the tank into significant oscillation, see attached images. 

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #412 on: April 22, 2014, 12:23:50 AM »
MilesHigh,

After some reflecting on the phasing dots this morning I realized that if the coils were arranged in bucking configuration, then when the rotor is in between poles, the coils will cancel out, and when the rotor is aligned with a pole, the flux will then flow though the rotor, allowing the magnetic field in each half of the stator as divided by the rotor to flow in opposite directions. 

This would sort of be similar to what would happen in a typical EI core, if the windings were wound on the out side legs instead of the middle one.  Also for this arrangement to work in the QEG I would expect the rotor to have twice the cross-sectional area of the stator, as the middle leg of an EI core does compared to the outside legs.

Additionally I got LTSpice to calculate a time varying value of inductance, although the resulting model fails to drive the tank circuit into significant oscillation.  Also with the time varying inductance there is a loss of a single sharp resonant peak in the system. 
SPICE is just the wrong application to model this device, because it fails to model the flux gating of the core.  What is needed is a magnetic modeling application that can also handle circuity.  Do we have anyone skilled in the art or magnetic modeling in the house?

Anyway, with the time varying value of inductance, I set it for 15H +/- 5H, I found that the main resonance which was only slightly dominant shifted from 411 Hz to 1328 Hz.  I change the capacitance value to 11 nano-farads and that brought the main resonance to 400 Hz.  Then varying the inductance value at 400 Hz failed to drive the tank into significant oscillation, see attached images.




F_Brown,


You are correct, in the bucking configuration they do cancel out when the rotor is mis-aligned, and correct again when it is aligned you get flux going through the rotor, which is not large enough to carry all the flux, as you mentioned it should be twice as large to handle it efficiently.


Here are screenshots from a femm simulation built to the dimensions from the drawing and .5 amp dc in the 3100T primary in bucking orientation, nothing in the 350T secondary.


This only requires 18 volts to achieve:


Primary:

Total current = 0.5 Amps
Voltage Drop = 18.3489 Volts
Flux Linkage = 17.8163 Webers
Flux/Current = 35.6327 Henries
Voltage/Current = 36.6978 Ohms
Power = 9.17445 Watts

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #413 on: April 22, 2014, 12:32:41 AM »
If you don't set it up to be bucking...then the rotor does absolutely nothing....

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #413 on: April 22, 2014, 12:32:41 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #414 on: April 22, 2014, 12:38:44 AM »
Here is the snapshot.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #415 on: April 22, 2014, 12:50:05 AM »
shinz62,

Very interesting...  I just installed FEMM on my workstation, and have been learning the basics of it all morning.  I've been wanting to learn how to use it for years.  I just lacked sufficient motivation to climb the learning curve. 

At least the FEMM model indicates the correct configuration of the windings.  So, the phasing dots were correct.  That's one piece of the picture demystified.

I'll put myself to the task of designing new laminations that will be smaller overall and have a rotor cross-sectional area that is twice the stator cross-sectional area, then run a FEMM analysis on that.  Seeing that one for the original lamination dimensions were already done.

Cheers,

FB


PS  Do you think the rotor was meant to saturate?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #415 on: April 22, 2014, 12:50:05 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #416 on: April 22, 2014, 01:48:07 AM »
F_Brown,

Is it possible to simulate the attached circuit in your FEMM?

GL.

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Peter Lindemann: Thoughts on QEG
« Reply #417 on: April 22, 2014, 01:59:02 AM »
Here's a letter Peter Lindemann wrote addressing people who have asked him about the QEG.



http://www.borderlands.de/Links/QEG-LindemannBoS

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #418 on: April 22, 2014, 02:03:40 AM »
@ GL,

Has anyone tried placing another looped coil and cap facing opposite to L3 ?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #419 on: April 22, 2014, 02:04:13 AM »
I wouldn't think they wanted the rotor to saturate like that, particularly since it should be running at much higher power levels, more like these shots if you go by what they're saying.



They're saying 24,000 volts on that primary, I don't even see how that is possible, could only be peek and very very briefly.


My model shows 50 amps dc is 1800 volts and 45k watts, you can't get much more than about 11 amps through a 20 awg winding without burning it up. http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm These shots show 50 amps going through, it is so saturated nothing even goes through the rotor and there would be zero output on the secondary as a result of the rotor turning.


But if we clean this up with an appropriately sized rotor this might be a very interesting generator, because it seems quite possible to time the pulsing of the entire system such that there is very little lenz drag on the rotor.


 

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