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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1415474 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #345 on: April 17, 2014, 05:17:11 AM »
News about the QEG:
 Only about 420 Watts Output while putting in 1 KW ....
 Output is only about 200 Volts AC and 2.1 Amps ...
 Was expected by me..the whole thing looks like a big donation scam..pretty sad.. http://be-do.com/media/kunena/attachments/392/QuestionsAnswersQEG4-4-2014-b.pdf

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #346 on: April 17, 2014, 05:23:39 AM »
News about the QEG:
 Only about 420 Watts Output while putting in 1 KW ....
 Output is only about 200 Volts AC and 2.1 Amps ...
 Was expected by me..the whole thing looks like a big donation scam..pretty sad.. http://be-do.com/media/kunena/attachments/392/QuestionsAnswersQEG4-4-2014-b.pdf
Man who could have seen that coming... *ducks*

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #347 on: April 17, 2014, 06:11:18 AM »
News about the QEG:
 Only about 420 Watts Output while putting in 1 KW ....
 Output is only about 200 Volts AC and 2.1 Amps ...
 Was expected by me..the whole thing looks like a big donation scam..pretty sad.. http://be-do.com/media/kunena/attachments/392/QuestionsAnswersQEG4-4-2014-b.pdf


 Are you saying you built it or taking numbers out of context from the link you posted?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #347 on: April 17, 2014, 06:11:18 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #348 on: April 17, 2014, 06:17:07 AM »
Jbignes5:

There is no such thing as "impulse technology."  You are just buying into some BS.

There is this:   [Signal] --> [Circuit]  --> [Response]

The "signal" could be a sine wave, a triangle wave, exponential waveform, pure DC, a pulse train, whatever.   Notice that includes your "impulse technology."

It's all perfectly well understood and analyzed through and through.

Here is a link for you:

http://books.google.ca/books/about/Advanced_Engineering_Mathematics.html?id=UnN8DpXI74EC&redir_esc=y

I advise you to stop that and keep the thread civil.

MileHigh


 Wow so you can't read then. You know just don't post to me anymore. I won't post to you. Agreed? Ignorance is bliss.. No impulse technology?? Get a life...

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #349 on: April 17, 2014, 06:47:20 AM »
News about the QEG:
 Only about 420 Watts Output while putting in 1 KW ....
 Output is only about 200 Volts AC and 2.1 Amps ...
 Was expected by me..the whole thing looks like a big donation scam..pretty sad.. http://be-do.com/media/kunena/attachments/392/QuestionsAnswersQEG4-4-2014-b.pdf

Hi Stefan,

I looked through the Q & A link you posted but could not find where they say the input is 1KW

Luc

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #349 on: April 17, 2014, 06:47:20 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #350 on: April 17, 2014, 12:11:20 PM »
The questions are:
What is the factor Q in serie ?
Is the voltage in resonance is in fact superior to 24000 volts ?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #351 on: April 17, 2014, 12:30:30 PM »
Jbignes5:

There is no reason that we can't discuss the evolution of this QEG project in a civil way.  The notion that "impulse technology" is something not understood is simply not true.  That book by Gerry Vassilatos is the equivalent of supermarket tabloid trash masquerading as a "serious" book.

Here is a funny quote from an Amazon reviewer of his "Lost Science" book:

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This is the only book that I bought in the authors substantial output and will be the only one.  It suffers from one basic flaw and that is simply put, the author does not give one, not one single source for any claim made on any page in the book.  In the back of the book is a bibliography.  In this he quotes from FIVE of his own books, the Vril Compendium Series. So, the reader of Lost Science has to then hope that those books will have some sources, etc.  Take for example the material on T.T. Brown.  When he writes with great certainty the events he says happened to Brown he does not give a source.

Here is a 976 page serious science book on "impulse technology:"

http://www.introni.it/pdf/Millman%20-%20Taub%20-%20Pulse%20and%20Digital%20Switching%20Waveforms%201965.pdf

I could pull up 100 more links on stuff like this.  So believe me when I tell you that there is no basis in fact about the "secret" of "impulse technology."

If you want to disagree, then fine.  Just don't act like a schoolyard bully in grade 6.

Going back to the QEG, I did read a reference somewhere that somebody got about 50% efficiency.  I believe that it was 1000 watts in and 500 (possibly 400) watts out.   I think there is also a related YouTube clip where the system reaches resonance and the light bulb load lights up.

The big question in my mind is if the people that bought into this thing will be upset assuming that it's proven to fail to work.  Will there be a big backlash?   Suppose you have a group of 10 people that put in 500 bucks each.  So with their $5000 they build a faithful replication and it doesn't work as claimed.  If within that group of 10 people you have one person that really knows what they are doing technically, and one or two people that don't come from the culture of the free energy forums and are upset, there could be a lot of heat brought down on HopeGirl and the Fix the World group.

Time will tell.

MileHigh

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #351 on: April 17, 2014, 12:30:30 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #352 on: April 17, 2014, 01:40:40 PM »
Or the way is to simply do the same resonance frequency to secondary?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #353 on: April 17, 2014, 03:13:56 PM »
@MH

Rodin may be a joke if it is only used for spinning a sphere magnet but Rodin is no joke if the effect is real. Vortex, spinning fields or virtual spinning fields do exist and so does the ability of an alternator stator to output from rotation. Just look at how the windings are done in an alternator stator. Very analog to a Rodin. Pairing these would be a natural fit. I am not inferring that there is no R&D involved because there always is. Lastly, when I post, I am usually talking to the majority who never post and I know who are looking for ideas to push them near a new edge which is the basic foundation of OU research. I see a guy doing experiments and I try to push them further along because it is a mutual learning experience.

@stefan

Why am I not surprised. So as usual, we have to do better.

@Magluvin

Lets say we negate the possibility of any field in the cores and are null of magnetic field. Unless possibly Earths field has a part in it.(Rotate the box in different directions to find out?) If the thought of just the changing value of inductance is the effect producer, then there is another way of changing the inductance other than changing the core values as Luc has demonstrated.

Yes I was thinking the same thing. There may be a preferred angle that will produce even slightly more output on the primary or secondary since both are really secondaries if you are considering this.

@gotoluc

I'll energize the solenoid and measure it for you Thursday night. Been busy with other stuff.

Another point is that the solenoid does not have to move the I core flat-to-flat (f2f) (although testing f2f would be good) on the E core. The I core could have a pivot on one end and do the same thing. That would support a good majority of the weight of the I core so the solenoid is free to just provide the motion. Actually the I core on a pivot and then complete I/E core assembly secured at a slight angle to keep the I core centered on its pivot point will lower the movement energy even more. Also, you could have an I core on a pivot (or f2f) between two E cores, so at each back or forth movement an E core is contacted by that one I core. I can go on and on but the basic idea is to not rotate the I core.

This could even be used by ocean waves, pushing then pulling back I core structures.

I consider that the I/E MOT cores plus the copper wires are already energized by the Earth field. What I mean by energized is better said that it is biased by the Earth field. The approaching I core changes the bias of that contact area of the core and that change is sensed by both the primary and secondary that creates a potential difference in the coils, hence output. When the I core leaves, the Earth field then spins, rewinds, resets or re-biases everything back to their original bias so fast thus producing a second change that translates to more output, so half (or more) of the work is being done by the Earth field in this type of setup that would be totally dependent on the Earth fields' contribution to the effect.

By contrast, when you pulse DC or apply AC, the produced fluctuation is continuously controlling all aspects of the biasing polarity changes in the core so the Earth field is just there as an impartial observer and not really participating to any great degree in adding its impress to the overall system. Actually the Earth field would be acting as a constant break or damper in these circumstances because it supplies a its own bias orientation against the two polarities of the pulse. Yes it will be very slight but it will always be there all the same.

So this would be more of a passive system that would be harnessing energy from the Earth field. Cool.

@gotoluc and @woopy

If there is Earth bias at play, maybe consider placing a ground wire at different locations on the MOT core via a remote switch to see if while the I core passes through, does the output change. Maybe the Earth ground can be used on the E core to create an even greater change. With the ground being switched you can try switching in the ground when the I core is at closest position to see if there are not only regions of the core but timing as well to apply the ground against the Earth field bias. Coils love change so the name of the game is to increase the change via any minimal energy consuming method. Also, the I core (on a pivot) could be grounded to see the effect of Earth ground (I core) meeting Earth field (E core). Just more ways to play. hehehe

wattsup

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #353 on: April 17, 2014, 03:13:56 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #355 on: April 17, 2014, 06:31:56 PM »

 Are you saying you built it or taking numbers out of context from the link you posted?
Agree.  Nowhere in the pdf did it say they were using 1KW input on that situation.   But another quote from the pdf : "-we are about a day and 1/2 from having a self-running QEG in Taiwan - we'll have a video after that. "
I'd give 'em 5 days.   

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #356 on: April 17, 2014, 07:27:56 PM »
Hi Wattsup

thank's for your input.

I tried your proposal as to close one leg of the 2 opposite U cores and let pass the alu rotor only on the other side. It work also but seems not better than when it cross the 2 cores as per my video. Than i put a magnet between one end of the core , but by simply passing the alu rotor i clearly feel the braking due to Eddy currents, so it will change the basis of the aim of this experiment.

Than i redo the montage with one core/coil as per my first video, (for info, when dismantled, i have checked the magnetism with a compass to be sure there is no residual magnetism in the core ) and i tried to accelerate the rotor
. I have got ,  good result and resonnace tuning, but above 3500 rpm , my rotor began to unbalance , and knocked the core and game over.

So for me this experiment was just to check the variation of inductance and the effect. But i will stop here and wait for further result from the QEG people, if any.

Anyway very interesting stuff, once more, to improve my knowledge.

Good luck to you and all

Laurent

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #357 on: April 17, 2014, 09:44:52 PM »
Agree.  Nowhere in the pdf did it say they were using 1KW input on that situation.   But another quote from the pdf : "-we are about a day and 1/2 from having a self-running QEG in Taiwan - we'll have a video after that. "
I'd give 'em 5 days.


True there was no mention of the input wattage, however, that PDF was dated April 4th... it has already been 13 days and counting.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #358 on: April 17, 2014, 10:47:14 PM »


 What does the Q mean in QED?


 Lets look at a very long series on what is currently being seen and the new revelations of what it means...


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7UOCw-FsIc


 This is a 6 part series. Please watch it all to fully understand what is being understood and how they are proving it.

 And I will back out of this discussion. There is a lot being discovered and what is being discovered is a lot of flim flam to make things work with our current models. This is an exciting time to be alive as we start proving the old entrenched theories wrong or skewed. Now it is up to us to admit that we could be wrong and have the courage to put it right.

 I doubt some would even take the time to really understand this video series. Those people are sheeple. They are taught from day one to obey and not question. They will not go along till there is a real device to prove it. They are not my and others concern. Who is our concern are the ones who want the truth or as near as we can see the truth. You want to know what it is all about then watch the whole series of videos. Thank you for your time.

 May the Universe bless you all with abundance,
 jbignes5

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #359 on: April 18, 2014, 01:55:18 AM »
Wattsup:

This is off topic but it is worth mentioning.

I am not sure what effect you are referring to for the Rodin coil?  A vortex?

Look, you know what the magnetic field is like around a very long straight wire carrying DC current, right?  You know that a shorter length of straight wire will have approximately the same magnetic field pattern.  You know that the magnetic field at any point in space is represented by a vector.  You know how vectors add together.

So why can't you just crunch this in your head?  Let's look at a "Rodin starship" coil, because it ties directly into what I said above.  The starship coil is just a bunch of straight lengths of wire.  Visualize the field from each wire, and add them all together as a vector addition in your head.  You visualize how on the outer "points" there is quite a bot of vector cancellation.   When you back up a bit and look at it from further away, what do you have?

The answer is just a lousy version of a regular cylindrical coil.  You use more wire to get the same inductance, and there is a lot of useless magnetic vector cancellation.  The Rodin starship coil will always be beat out by a regular coil.

What about a vortex?  When you do the vector addition in your head, do you get a vortex or not?

MileHigh

 

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