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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1415307 times)

Offline F_Brown

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #330 on: April 17, 2014, 02:39:10 AM »

The book Cold war Secrets i believe has the story about the motors he was developing and had Westinghouse produce them for him. And yes this was all together one unit.


Would that be "Secrets of Cold War Technology" by Gerry Vassilatos?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #331 on: April 17, 2014, 02:41:10 AM »

Bullshit meter pegged here, they want to cash in as well lol
This is hilarious
Will it ever end?


Just Like John R , Brady and many others they will milk the gullible as long as possible.
Any chance WITTS will show a verifiable working model its only been 20 years lol?


Mark


Chill out Mark. Just listen to see if you might learn something new?


cheers,


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #332 on: April 17, 2014, 02:45:31 AM »
Jbignes5,

Try to look at the thread as a thread looking for hard evidence.  The reason you look for hard evidence is that there are some basic facts that go ignored in search of the next free energy proposition.

The basic facts are that an inductor is not a source of free energy.  A mechanical inductor is a spring.  Anybody that plays with a spring quickly realizes you can only get out what you put in less losses.  Pull on a still spring and let go of it and it whips forward.  There is your high velocity/high voltage spike.  A transformer is not a source of free energy.  A mechanical transformer is a car's manual transmission in say third gear.  People intuitively know that a car's transmission is not a source of free energy.  Moving onto a capacitor, a mechanical capacitor is a water tower.  You pump water up into it and then you can get water from it, and people intuitively know that a water tower is not a source of free energy.

It's understandable that people find it hard to see the equivalencies but they are there.  When you put these components together in various ways they just give you compounding losses, not over unity.  That's why there is a very strong burden of proof that is on the shoulders of the proponents of the QEG or any other similar system.

Knowing that the burden of proof is so strong (they have to know it), the people working on the QEG should have gone out of their way to demonstrate and document their results.  Systems should have been demoed on top of glass tables or on solid concrete surfaces.  All measurements and waveforms and videos and live demonstrations in front of qualified observers and any other form of documentation should have been done before a single peep about a 9 kilowatt (10 minus the 1 feeding back) free energy system was even mentioned.

The current status is that you have the belief that the system outputs 4 kilowatts no problem and with proper adjustments to the coil insulation it will be 9 kilowatts.   I am not aware of anything tangible right now, just talk.  No pictures, video clips, and documentation for the allegedly no-issue-fee-running 4 kilowatt system right now - that follows the pattern that we have all seen way too many times before.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #332 on: April 17, 2014, 02:45:31 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #333 on: April 17, 2014, 02:54:12 AM »
People often seem to have trouble understanding the nature of resonance and tank circuits, more specifically how voltages and currents can rise numerous orders of magnitude, which can seem quite magical and quite surprising as insufficient capacitors, insulation, and conductors to fail dramatically, as resonance in a tank circuit is approached, and how tanks circuits can store a surprisingly large amount energy once in resonance, energy which can then be drawn off in large or small portions while the system remains in continuous operation.  The fact remains though, that one has to put energy in before one can take it out, and one can only take out as much as was put in minus resistive losses.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #334 on: April 17, 2014, 02:55:03 AM »
Mark:

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Bullshit meter pegged here, they want to cash in as well lol

I have to agree with you.  That looks like WITTS wants to feed at the new trough that this buzz is creating so they issue a ridiculous and fake warning and then they say this:

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WITTS Ministries advises experimenters to exercise extreme caution and urges serious engineers to consider taking a few classes before working at significant power levels.

Take a few classes at $1000 an hour?  (It's possible.)  Unbelievable.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #334 on: April 17, 2014, 02:55:03 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #335 on: April 17, 2014, 03:04:36 AM »
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People often seem to have trouble understanding the nature of resonance and tank circuits.   More specifically how voltages and currents can rise numerous orders of magnitude within tank circuits as resonance is approached and how tanks circuits can store a surprising about of energy once in resonance, which can then be drawn off in small portions while the system remains in continuous operation.  The fact remains though, that one has to put energy in before one can take it out, and one can only take out as much as was put in minus resistive losses.

You are absolutely right.  When you think of the child on the swing example, the swing will swing high enough so that the amount of energy you supply with each push is equal to the amount of energy that is burnt off with the air friction.  So in addition to the in-out equation that you reference above, the sobering thought is that the electrically resonant circuit will climb in voltage in proportion to how much power you are able to put into it.  So depending on how you do your excitation, it's possible for a very impressive very high resonant voltage to actually represent a significant burn off of the supplied power.

That suggests a measurement:  When the QEG is resonating at a very high voltage without being connected to a load, how much power burn-off does that represent?  You can measure the DC resistance of your coil or coils, so you are poised to make that extremely important measurement.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #336 on: April 17, 2014, 03:14:10 AM »


That suggests a measurement:  When the QEG is resonating at a very high voltage without being connected to a load, how much power burn-off does that represent?  You can measure the DC resistance of your coil or coils, so you are poised to make that extremely important measurement.

MileHigh

Yes.  I've been reflecting on the insulation breakdown in Taiwan.  A repeat of that could be avoided by adding some additional resistance in the HV primary circuit to limit current and dissipate some energy, or the gap of the spark gap could be reduced to limit the HV in the primary by another method.   Building up insulation around the core is sound, although limiting voltages and currents to known safe levels is always good practice too.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #336 on: April 17, 2014, 03:14:10 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #337 on: April 17, 2014, 03:15:03 AM »



 Read this ok High boy....


http://borderlandresearch.com/book/secrets-cold-war-tech/chapter-1


 Read it all then re read it a few more times. Impulse technology does not conform to your Laws. But then again why would you know anything about it at all? If you can't read then maybe you can get it in preread recording.. Learn something new ok...

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #338 on: April 17, 2014, 03:22:33 AM »
Yes.  I've been reflecting on the insulation breakdown in Taiwan.  A repeat of that could be avoided by adding some additional resistance in the HV primary circuit to limit current and dissipate some energy, or the gap of the spark gap could be reduced to limit the HV in the primary by another method.   Building up insulation around the core is sound, although limiting voltages and currents to known safe levels is always good practice too.


 They opted for insulating wraps in between layers.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #338 on: April 17, 2014, 03:22:33 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #339 on: April 17, 2014, 03:35:42 AM »
With the QEG resonance is a narrow band of frequencies
because of the cyclical changes in inductance as the
rotor rotates.  It is being pumped.

What is the relationship between the resonant band
of the device and the rotor rate of magnetic reversals?

Or, should we say, what is the desired relationship?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #340 on: April 17, 2014, 03:40:19 AM »
Jbignes5:

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Impulse technology does not conform to your Laws.

There is no such thing as "impulse technology."  You are just buying into some BS.

There is this:   [Signal] --> [Circuit]  --> [Response]

The "signal" could be a sine wave, a triangle wave, exponential waveform, pure DC, a pulse train, whatever.   Notice that includes your "impulse technology."

It's all perfectly well understood and analyzed through and through.

Here is a link for you:

http://books.google.ca/books/about/Advanced_Engineering_Mathematics.html?id=UnN8DpXI74EC&redir_esc=y

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If you can't read then maybe you can get it in preread recording..

I advise you to stop that and keep the thread civil.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #340 on: April 17, 2014, 03:40:19 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #341 on: April 17, 2014, 03:43:38 AM »
Farmhand,

It's good to see you in on this one.  How's things going on the other forum?

I'm in a self imposed exile (forum wise) for a while, I recognized that I was getting obsessive with a certain project and I decided I needed to step back and clear my mind while I take care of some non related stuff and allow others to work on without any distraction from me. My gut told me I was missing something and I needed to step back and let my inspirations hit me rather than chase after it. I'm also kinda stuck in a position where I want to build some mechanical things with some engineering accuracy, but it's a bad time for me, too much to do and no time to think deeply.

I have plans for projects but they require parts made by machining. I intend to go back to building things for love of building, when I post about what I do it distracts my thinking due to the conversations I get into.

Cheers




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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #342 on: April 17, 2014, 03:52:08 AM »
R_Brown:

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I've been reflecting on the insulation breakdown in Taiwan.

I reposted the schematic.  Notice the four coils wound on the toroidal core.  The schematic suggests that you want to wind "left to right - multi layer" for each of th four coils so that as you go left to right across the coil the voltage rises linearly and there are no turns with excessively high voltage difference between them.  You don't want to wind "zig-zag - layer by layer." So the arcing should be resolvable one way or the other.

Certainly having a load on the system will also reduce the maximum AC voltage.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #343 on: April 17, 2014, 04:50:35 AM »


 Read this ok High boy....


http://borderlandresearch.com/book/secrets-cold-war-tech/chapter-1


 Read it all then re read it a few more times. Impulse technology does not conform to your Laws. But then again why would you know anything about it at all? If you can't read then maybe you can get it in preread recording.. Learn something new ok...

Oh yeah Borderlands stuff.  I thought that sounded familiar.   I've been though that years ago.  I'll have a review.  Poor Eric Dollard, he failed to really get anywhere for all he put into that group.

Yep, insulation between winding layers is standard HV transformer practice, at least for vacuum tube plate and output transformers, and SMPS inductors for that matter.   With kilovolts being developed in the primary, I'm a bit surprised that James neglected to to that in the first place.  Perhaps that's because he's use to working with lower voltage motors.

However, I thought the report from Taiwan stated that they experienced trouble with the primary winding arcing to the core, rather than the primary arcing within itself.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #344 on: April 17, 2014, 04:54:59 AM »
I'm in a self imposed exile (forum wise) for a while, I recognized that I was getting obsessive with a certain project and I decided I needed to step back and clear my mind while I take care of some non related stuff and allow others to work on without any distraction from me. My gut told me I was missing something and I needed to step back and let my inspirations hit me rather than chase after it. I'm also kinda stuck in a position where I want to build some mechanical things with some engineering accuracy, but it's a bad time for me, too much to do and no time to think deeply.

I have plans for projects but they require parts made by machining. I intend to go back to building things for love of building, when I post about what I do it distracts my thinking due to the conversations I get into.

Cheers

Yep, me too.  Life's been rougher then usual lately.  Recently, I just got into designing microwave antenna's and wave guides, neat stuff.  I also need to find a way to fabricate things in my shop with a sufficient degree of mechanical precision for those frequencies using only hand tools.  What's life without challenges aye?

 

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