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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1416125 times)

Offline jbignes5

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #210 on: April 13, 2014, 07:52:14 PM »



 Well from the video that is exactly what they are doing. They are using the teaching process to learn from a wide array of professionals or even regular joes. This is the perfect way to introduce a ground breaking device. No one will be able to stop it, no one.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #211 on: April 13, 2014, 08:05:54 PM »
can't see any good reason for all the negative comments by some.  it should be obvious fairly soon what they have.  it seems the name Hopegirl is a real hard one for Tinselhead since he can't even call her that instead calling her Whatevergirl.   Hope is like belief.   Belief is too close to religion for Tinsel apparently and we know where aetheists stand on that.  this will be a real crusher for Tinsel once this free energy device really gets big.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #212 on: April 13, 2014, 08:54:00 PM »
53 minutes of nothing but Robitaille talking? And then a few minutes at the end on "how to use your computer to do a videoconference"?

Yep, that's the kind of update we need, for sure. I feel a lot more confident now.... don't you?

I don't understand Tinsel's attitude. Is he an oil company shill? It appears that his strategy is to constantly attack people and their ideas with a continual stream of negativity and sarcasm.

Why doesn't he find an under unity forum and hang out there?


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #212 on: April 13, 2014, 08:54:00 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #213 on: April 13, 2014, 09:18:57 PM »
Why doesn't he find an under unity forum and hang out there?

What kind of fun would be for him ;D

Seriously, I don't mind since they have helped me in many ways over the years. They are here for a reason and we should allow them to voice their opinions without objections. If you don't agree we shouldn't bother arguing to make our point. We should use or time to experiment to try to prove what we believe to be.

Believe it or not, they want the same thing you want!... they just won't believe it until they see all the tests done right and only then they will build it for them self for final proof.

Luc

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #214 on: April 13, 2014, 09:22:44 PM »
I don't understand Tinsel's attitude. Is he an oil company shill? It appears that his strategy is to constantly attack people and their ideas with a continual stream of negativity and sarcasm.

Why doesn't he find an under unity forum and hang out there?


 Well Tinsels attitude is like all others who spent their entire life thinking what they learned was FACT. It's an ego thing really. When something or someone comes along that challenges those beliefs of their FACTS they become Violent or Vindictive or Confrontational because it is basically attacking what they believe is FACT and Truthful.
 As to who he is and where he works is really not important.


 My aim is to give these people a chance to get to the point of Data disclosure. They deserve that just on general respect principles. Even if the device is a flop they should be able to do what they need to do to get the proof and the understanding of that proof these guys desire.


 Maybe they don't want others to build it and find out the truth? Maybe there is a conspiracy here. I don't know the answers to that but it sure does appear to look that way. It seems there is a concerted effort to do damage control here and try to put the cat back in the box. Welp this is why I believe they went to other countries. See America isn't about freedom anymore it is about CONTROL of the masses. LAWS, Regulations, Codes seem to be well meaning but when you are subjects to them outside of their context, well thats CONTROL not freedom.


 I'm waiting in earnest to see something from Morocco, which is there next stop. Maybe a video that can later be seen since internet and phone communications are bad there. Hopefully they will bring a lot of recording material with them so we get a better picture of the work they are doing.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #214 on: April 13, 2014, 09:22:44 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #215 on: April 13, 2014, 11:08:24 PM »
What kind of fun would be for him ;D

Seriously, I don't mind since they have helped me in many ways over the years. They are here for a reason and we should allow them to voice their opinions without objections. If you don't agree we shouldn't bother arguing to make our point. We should use or time to experiment to try to prove what we believe to be.

Believe it or not, they want the same thing you want!... they just won't believe it until they see all the tests done right and only then they will build it for them self for final proof.

Luc


Well said Luc. Some people just need others to know Physics is never wrong but don't know all the Physics that needs to be known and others have mile high egos and not much more. Hopefully we'll all learn something in the end.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #216 on: April 13, 2014, 11:18:58 PM »
ChrisC:

You allege that I write crap?  Please go ahead and tell me what you think is crap.

We will see if you will make a comment in five and a half weeks after many replicators will have had a chance to build and test the thing, as per the actual open-source downloaded plans.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #217 on: April 13, 2014, 11:42:27 PM »
Hi all

Just tried something after Gyula information on the Russian(Lanarev )  paper from 1934 , where a crossing alu plate. decreases the inductance of 2 facing coil.

And it seems that by variation of inductance, Increasing it or decreasing it, generate some electricity

And  , by doing it, also seems not to submitted to Lenz    perhaps    ???

My 2 cents

http://youtu.be/gukCFm81K7k

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #218 on: April 14, 2014, 12:58:03 AM »
What kind of fun would be for him ;D

Seriously, I don't mind since they have helped me in many ways over the years. They are here for a reason and we should allow them to voice their opinions without objections. If you don't agree we shouldn't bother arguing to make our point. We should use or time to experiment to try to prove what we believe to be.

Believe it or not, they want the same thing you want!... they just won't believe it until they see all the tests done right and only then they will build it for them self for final proof.

Luc
Nicely put Luc,
My spideysense is starting to tingle though. Your own experiments have shown much more data on the purported effect than FTW has. Based on Mark's assessment they have collected nearly 100k from crowd sourcing. Still no I/O data as promised. I wish you every success with your experiments.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #218 on: April 14, 2014, 12:58:03 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #219 on: April 14, 2014, 01:57:29 AM »
The unfortunate thing is that the QEG group is demonstrating the same pattern that we have all seen many times over.  They clearly and unambiguously claimed that they have a free energy machine.  Then all of a sudden it's "in development" and replicators are welcome to tweak the design and adapt it for themselves.  It's the Internet age, you don't have to physically travel somewhere to demonstrate your concepts.  You can use Skype and email.  The people promoting this idea seem to have limited technical abilities.  Let's assume the majority of the replication teams will be amateurs, and the replicators will go down dozens or hundreds of blind alleyways and do crazy nonsensical variations because they don't know what they are doing.

The system has been claimed to work, outputting 4 kilowatts. But no details were provided about the output voltage and current of the device itself, what transformer or transformers they may have used, and what the actual 4 kilowatt load was.  How come this was not described and the guy that built it didn't say something like, "We used a 10 KVA 10:1 step-down transformer, and built a metal frame to hold 40 100-watt light bulbs, etc, etc.  How come there is no picture of this apparatus?  It's a lot of work to make a load bank to dissipate 4 kilowatts.  Hey, for all I know they could have used toasters and make toast while they ran their test.  I would like to see a picture of of the toasters and all of the data.

The point being that if you are going to actually claim you ran this setup let's say with a motor that drew 500 watts, and you output 4 kilowatts into a load, the first question you should be asking the QEG people is for full details on this test including measurements, video clips, pictures, a description of what was done, the actual data, and so on.

I don't hear any of you guys asking for this data.  It's like you have put on your special tunnel vision blinders and will simply expect it to work - like magic.  You are here to research free energy and you are building things all the time, and yet no one that I am aware of is asking for the hard core details about the 4 kilowatt test.

On one hand, everything about this one seems groovy and flexible and people are free to try different configurations, and yet when you try to replicate other free energy propositions that fail, you are told that you didn't do the replication exactly.  If you didn't use the exact same wire with precisely the same number of turns on the exact same core, then it won't work and you can't blame the inventor, only yourself for failing to replicate.

Those are some of the pieces to the puzzle.  The problem for many of you is that you have seen this puzzle before.  All of the signs in the latest puzzle point in the direction that says it's won't work, because you have seen it all before.  You have seen dozens and dozens of "coil resonance plays" and they never work.  Resonance is not magic and only represents the storage of energy put into the resonating system from a source, like a battery.  Resonance is not and will never be an innate source of energy itself.  You have all been through this over and over and over.

So from my perspective, I am just waiting for the tears to start falling.  Lots of groups will be burnt out, dismayed, and unhappy after spending a few hundred hours and getting nowhere.  Reality is going to hurt them and it's going to bite HopeGirl in the ass.

You guys can do whatever you want and make some tests and I may comment in the genuine spirit of trying to help you.  Meanwhile, the impending disaster of irate groups of replicators, many of them presumably not familiar with the whole free energy forums and all that, they are going to be one group of pissed off people that want results.

This appears to be nothing more than exciting coils into resonance.  The coils are just resonating and waiting for either more energy to be put into them from an outside source, or they will be drained of energy and the resonant amplitude will decrease.  That's all there is to it, there is no magic anywhere, it's nothing more than basic rudimentary electronics.

Let's all watch the show.

MileHigh

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced
« Reply #220 on: April 14, 2014, 02:38:47 AM »
gotoluc:

I really appreciate all of your experimental efforts and sharing of your results.  I think many more than you're aware of benefit from the work you openly share.  We learn something from every experiment whether we conduct it ourselves or if it is conducted by someone else who provides the configuration, test protocol and the data needed to replicate the experiment like you do.  You learn whether your results are as you expected or not.  Richard Feynman put it best: The test of all knowledge is experiment.

Your builds are professional and you stand out because you like to confirm things for yourself without letting negative comments deter you from your experimental work.  At times both sides resort to sniping, name calling and sarcasm that is not constructive, it discourages those of us that may have something productive to contribute.  Yet you remain open minded to glean what you can from both sides, bravo!  Kudos to woopy too!  You can't beat hands-on experimental work to learn while enjoying the building experience, but even though both sides have something positive to contribute you do sometimes have to filter out the unproductive background noise.

I'm encouraged by your open and objective approach to post an idea that I had which also makes use of microwave oven transformer cores and would like to know what you think.  I'm attaching a drawing that I made of a QEG Experimental Test Unit to test the effects by utilizing 2 or 3 MOT cores.  I think it would eliminate the flexing problem you're having while bringing it closer to the original QEG toroid design and allows use of bobbins to test with different coil configurations.  One unit design requires three MOT E core pieces of the same size to maintain the same rotor dimensions and other rotor designs would only require two MOTs because one of the left over I core pieces would be used to make two variations of a rotor at the more narrow width of the I core piece.  Some core machining would be required but it may be worth a try.

Also wanted to point out that James Robitaille stated in the recently posted PESN video interview at the 28:00 minute mark that he tested his QEG configuration at the lower frequencies that you're testing at but found that the QEG growled and beat itself up and he didn't think it would last so he stayed away from the low RPMs.  In the QEG Taiwan Update video that was posted today at the 13:00 minute mark James Robitaille states that he is still using a primary LC capacitance of 0.125uF and achieved smooth resonance in Taiwan at a rotor RPM of 1331, he had reported that the first QEG he built back home achieved smooth resonance at 1450 RPM which he considered to be about mid power band and that the QEG will operate on harmonics.

Thanks and as lasersaber well puts it, let's keep experimenting.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced
« Reply #220 on: April 14, 2014, 02:38:47 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #221 on: April 14, 2014, 02:55:30 AM »
What kind of fun would be for him ;D

Well, fun is one thing, but fun at another person's expense is quite another thing, and I don't agree with that, and I will call that out because I don't like it.

Seriously, I don't mind since they have helped me in many ways over the years.

If you don't mind that type of behavior, that's okay with me (for you) that you don't mind that type of behavior; however, (not to be counter-oppositional to your position on that type of behavior) I do mind, and I will voice my opinion even if it's unpopular if I see something that I believe is objectionable, and I'm not referring to free energy or the like, I referring to the way we treat one another.

They are here for a reason


Good for them. I am here for a reason, too. I'm here to learn and share ideas, and I'm going to do that as I'm doing it now.

and we should allow them to voice their opinions

They may voice their opinions; however, I, too, will voice my opinions, especially, if I see something I find objectionable.

without objections.

If I have an objection, I will voice it and make it known without reservation.

If you don't agree we shouldn't bother arguing to make our point.

This is what I will agree to: "We are all free to agree or disagree, as we are all free to argue or to not argue, and I will make my choice as I see fit with respect to each particular circumstance."

We should use or time to experiment to try to prove what we believe to be.

Not only experimenting, but researching, writing, sharing ideas, networking and building, be that devices or friendships.

Believe it or not, they want the same thing you want!...

That may be so, and with that, I have no objection. It's how they achieve their ends that matters to me. If it's through attacking people and their ideas, then I will stand against them, and my voice shall be opposition to them.

they just won't believe it until they see all the tests done right and only then they will build it for them self for final proof.

All people are at different levels, and just because "they" want to see "it" be done a certain way, for me, that does not give them license to act in an objectionable manner. If they want to attack a person and their ideas, and they act on that desire, and if what they say is objectionable to me, I will stand up for mine and other people's right not to be attacked.

Regards,

VIDBID

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #223 on: April 14, 2014, 04:43:12 AM »
Missed you at the party VIDBID.

http://www.overunity.com/14167/thread-for-naysayers-nitpickers-and-shills/#.U0tCEqLmyzo


Regards...

Why didn't you first offer the same invitation to the person who attacked me?

Be that as it may, whether this QEG technology is valid or not, and only time and effort will tell, no one can dispute that the people of this planet need an energy technology that will not end up destroying the planet. In fact, it may already be too late, and this discussion is only academic.

But if you don't like drinking fracked water, breathing automotive exhaust air, or seeing a sky full of chemtrails, you might consider thinking outside of the box once in a while.

Regards,

VIDBID



 


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #224 on: April 14, 2014, 05:08:01 AM »
The unfortunate thing is that the QEG group is demonstrating the same pattern that we have all seen many times over.  They clearly and unambiguously claimed that they have a free energy machine.  Then all of a sudden it's "in development" and replicators are welcome to tweak the design and adapt it for themselves.  It's the Internet age, you don't have to physically travel somewhere to demonstrate your concepts.  You can use Skype and email.  The people promoting this idea seem to have limited technical abilities.  Let's assume the majority of the replication teams will be amateurs, and the replicators will go down dozens or hundreds of blind alleyways and do crazy nonsensical variations because they don't know what they are doing.

The system has been claimed to work, outputting 4 kilowatts. But no details were provided about the output voltage and current of the device itself, what transformer or transformers they may have used, and what the actual 4 kilowatt load was.  How come this was not described and the guy that built it didn't say something like, "We used a 10 KVA 10:1 step-down transformer, and built a metal frame to hold 40 100-watt light bulbs, etc, etc.  How come there is no picture of this apparatus?  It's a lot of work to make a load bank to dissipate 4 kilowatts.  Hey, for all I know they could have used toasters and make toast while they ran their test.  I would like to see a picture of of the toasters and all of the data.

The point being that if you are going to actually claim you ran this setup let's say with a motor that drew 500 watts, and you output 4 kilowatts into a load, the first question you should be asking the QEG people is for full details on this test including measurements, video clips, pictures, a description of what was done, the actual data, and so on.

I don't hear any of you guys asking for this data.  It's like you have put on your special tunnel vision blinders and will simply expect it to work - like magic.  You are here to research free energy and you are building things all the time, and yet no one that I am aware of is asking for the hard core details about the 4 kilowatt test.

On one hand, everything about this one seems groovy and flexible and people are free to try different configurations, and yet when you try to replicate other free energy propositions that fail, you are told that you didn't do the replication exactly.  If you didn't use the exact same wire with precisely the same number of turns on the exact same core, then it won't work and you can't blame the inventor, only yourself for failing to replicate.

Those are some of the pieces to the puzzle.  The problem for many of you is that you have seen this puzzle before.  All of the signs in the latest puzzle point in the direction that says it's won't work, because you have seen it all before.  You have seen dozens and dozens of "coil resonance plays" and they never work.  Resonance is not magic and only represents the storage of energy put into the resonating system from a source, like a battery.  Resonance is not and will never be an innate source of energy itself.  You have all been through this over and over and over.

So from my perspective, I am just waiting for the tears to start falling.  Lots of groups will be burnt out, dismayed, and unhappy after spending a few hundred hours and getting nowhere.  Reality is going to hurt them and it's going to bite HopeGirl in the ass.

You guys can do whatever you want and make some tests and I may comment in the genuine spirit of trying to help you.  Meanwhile, the impending disaster of irate groups of replicators, many of them presumably not familiar with the whole free energy forums and all that, they are going to be one group of pissed off people that want results.

This appears to be nothing more than exciting coils into resonance.  The coils are just resonating and waiting for either more energy to be put into them from an outside source, or they will be drained of energy and the resonant amplitude will decrease.  That's all there is to it, there is no magic anywhere, it's nothing more than basic rudimentary electronics.

Let's all watch the show.

MileHigh


 They have clearly stated the voltage and the amps for the device. 2-4k volts at 5-10 amps. But it depends on the configuration which they are working on. Do you not watch the videos I and others have posted?


 No magic huh? You tell me anyone and I mean anyone that can get power from nothing more then coils on the field cores and just a normal rotor with no magnets or coils on that? The input is mechanical only, so you tell me?


 Just stop already you made your opinion very clear. You state falsely that they have not given the information but yet we have shown the videos explaining the process and the numbers they have done so far. You get others riled up over semantics and BS crap like lying about them not giving the numbers.


 So now it is in your ballpark LIAR. Prove that they didn't give the numbers because they have very clearly stated the number they are getting currently and the numbers they had gotten with the prototype. It's time to put up or shut up! LIAR

 Reference video.. Now this one doesn't go into to much detail but he talks about what they are seeing now and the kind of ideas they have gotten from the discovery process..
http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-news/226-update-april-13-from-the-qeg-team-in-taiwan

 Watch the friken thing and see for yourself.

 Here is a prediction for you. When this starts to ramp up are you gonna tell us your address so we can come congratulate you in person of what a jerk you are?

 

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