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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1520689 times)

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #735 on: May 05, 2014, 04:06:41 PM »
Why does the Mutual Inductance depend on the Primary Current ?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #736 on: May 05, 2014, 04:17:23 PM »
Why does the Mutual Inductance depend on the Primary Current ?

The mutual inductance is calculated here as

Secondary Flux / Primary Current

or equivalently,

Primary Flux / Secondary Current
« Last Edit: May 06, 2014, 01:44:35 AM by F_Brown »

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #737 on: May 05, 2014, 04:57:19 PM »
Tishatang

I found some info that I think relates to this discussion thread.  This pdf has lots of info re ferro resonance.
 
 http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/files/T...%20and%20D.pdf
 
 Also new for me, is this statement on page 26 about "iron loss" the core loses weight.  Maybe this is the source of the energy, loss of mass converted?
 
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  Resonance is the fundamental base of ZPE energy transformation.
 OU is transformation. On an improper heat treated & aged transformer laminate plates at resonance a phenomenon occurs called Iron loss. (Core looses weight) & no one wants to touch the issue with a ten meter pole. Seike reported weight loss in his ferroxplana cores, proper resonance with nature open door to Unforced sea of energy


Maybe someone can forward this info to the QEG team.  Maybe it will help solve some problems?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #737 on: May 05, 2014, 04:57:19 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #738 on: May 05, 2014, 05:00:42 PM »
The mutual inductance is calculated here as  Secondary Flux / Primary Current
But flux does not generate current in inductors.  Only a change in flux does.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #739 on: May 05, 2014, 05:06:17 PM »
In fact it is only the varation of the inductance who produce electricity in coil, the more this variation is the more you get electricity.
An intersting thing is to known what material other than the magnet is capable of diminish or raise the inductance?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #739 on: May 05, 2014, 05:06:17 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #740 on: May 05, 2014, 05:07:35 PM »
Tishatang

I found some info that I think relates to this discussion thread.  This pdf has lots of info re ferro resonance.
 
 http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/files/T...%20and%20D.pdf
 
 Also new for me, is this statement on page 26 about "iron loss" the core loses weight.  Maybe this is the source of the energy, loss of mass converted?
 
  Quote:
  Resonance is the fundamental base of ZPE energy transformation.
 OU is transformation. On an improper heat treated & aged transformer laminate plates at resonance a phenomenon occurs called Iron loss. (Core looses weight) & no one wants to touch the issue with a ten meter pole. Seike reported weight loss in his ferroxplana cores, proper resonance with nature open door to Unforced sea of energy


Maybe someone can forward this info to the QEG team.  Maybe it will help solve some problems?

Speaking of iron loss, the M19 laminations used in he QEG have a loss figure of 2 watts/lbs at 60Hz when driven 10,000 Gauss.  In the QEG running at 400Hz loss figure will float upwards of 1 kilo-watt of heat dissipated in the core.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #741 on: May 05, 2014, 05:08:54 PM »
Tishatang

I found some info that I think relates to this discussion thread.  This pdf has lots of info re ferro resonance.
 
 http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/files/T...%20and%20D.pdf
 
 Also new for me, is this statement on page 26 about "iron loss" the core loses weight.  Maybe this is the source of the energy, loss of mass converted?
 
  Quote:
  Resonance is the fundamental base of ZPE energy transformation.
 OU is transformation. On an improper heat treated & aged transformer laminate plates at resonance a phenomenon occurs called Iron loss. (Core looses weight) & no one wants to touch the issue with a ten meter pole. Seike reported weight loss in his ferroxplana cores, proper resonance with nature open door to Unforced sea of energy


Maybe someone can forward this info to the QEG team.  Maybe it will help solve some problems?

Speaking of iron loss, the M19 laminations used in he QEG have a loss figure of 2 watts/lbs at 60Hz when driven 10,000 Gauss.  In the QEG running at 400Hz the total core loss figure will float upwards of 1 kilo-watt of energy dissipated as heat in the core.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #741 on: May 05, 2014, 05:08:54 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #742 on: May 05, 2014, 05:11:50 PM »
An interesting thing is to known what material other than the magnet is capable of diminish or raise the inductance?
A ferromagnetic substance can increase the inductance of an air coil and a diamagnetic substance can decrease it.
Shorted conducting loops or bulk conductors can decrease it too.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #743 on: May 05, 2014, 05:15:46 PM »
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A ferromagnetic substance can increase the inductance of an air coil and a diamagnetic substance can decrease it.

Yes, for ferromagnetic you are right, for the diamagnetic I do not know but I think it is.

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Shorted conducting loops or bulk conductors can decrease it too.

Oops, yes it is perfectly exact, and with my multimeter there is no current heven in the minimum. :(

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #743 on: May 05, 2014, 05:15:46 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #744 on: May 05, 2014, 08:16:25 PM »
A very interesting puzzle indeed and I thought about it.

So just before the capacitor charging through the diode will take place, the current flowing in the coil will be _less_ than 5 amperes. 
This puzzle is still bothering me so I have found a relevant video.
Unfortunately it depicts a hard ferromagnet instead of a soft one.

If the current induced in a superconducting coil after a magnet was pulled out of it were proportional to -dΦ/dt instead of ΔΦ, then after the magnet was returned back inside the coil, the current flowing in it would be non-zero if the pull-out speed was greater than the pull-in speed.

An interesting argument that I heard in support of this behavior was from forest who noticed that the current induced in the coil is proportional to the number of "flux lines" that would cut the coil if it was open.  The number of "flux lines" attempting to cut the coil is the same during the pull-out as during the pull-in, thus the net current at the end of this cycle is zero.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #745 on: May 05, 2014, 09:11:27 PM »
One more data visualization for the QEG rotor torque vs rotor angle and primary current.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #745 on: May 05, 2014, 09:11:27 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #746 on: May 05, 2014, 09:21:58 PM »
One more data visualization for the QEG rotor torque vs rotor angle and primary current.
Very nice surface plot.  The inventors should be ashamed that they have not provided data like this

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #747 on: May 05, 2014, 09:27:06 PM »
Very nice surface plot.  The inventors should be ashamed that they have not provided data like this

I was thinking the same thing.  If Jamie was worth his salt as an engineer, he would have. 

Do you think Hope is controlling him against his will, making him commit reputational suicide?

If this thing turns out to be a flop, those two are going to get laughed off the planet...

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #748 on: May 05, 2014, 09:42:13 PM »
Do you think Hope is controlling him against his will, making him commit reputational suicide?
I am a very poor judge of character.  I'm more often wrong than right about people.
I am successful only with machines: circuits, computers, etc...

Can't be good at everything...

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #749 on: May 06, 2014, 01:28:03 AM »
Verpies,

Very interesting points that you raise and you linked to a very interesting video clip.  I am going to confess I don't have the answer.  I might be able to get it but I was never very good at doing my own differential or integral analysis from scratch.  I could do the basic stuff but to solve this riddle I would have to review the standard EM formulas and then try to do the analysis.  It would be like doing a calculus problem based on an electric circuit example and it would take me hours and hours to make any headway.  I don't have the fire in the belly to do that or the time.  Plus when you get out of school how many people actually "exercise" their brains for this material when they start to work?

For what it's worth, I can follow and understand simple to moderately complex examples and I find them so elegant to watch and I do appreciate.

I stumbled upon this teacher's YouTube clips and I enjoy watching them from time to time, he is such a great communicator:

https://www.youtube.com/user/lasseviren1/videos

I have linked to his elegant clips a few times in the past.

That's my cop-out and I am sticking to it!  lol

Meanwhile,

F_Brown,

Great number crunching!  It's amazing to think that people may have spent months and months in the 1950s on adding machines to get the same results you got in a few days.  If you had a "real" CPU it would take hours.  Also, if you have a higher-end AMD/ATI or Nvidea graphics card you might find a modeling package that would use your GPU.  Then all of a sudden you have a parallel processing super supercomputer to work with.

Meanwhile, it looks like the forum software has scrambled brains, the formating is all amiss.  MIB attack!  lol

Meanwhile, no hope for HopeGirl and what will the soon-to-be former-minions do I wonder?   Get your pitchforks!  lol

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