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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1466007 times)

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #630 on: May 02, 2014, 01:13:30 AM »
If Yildiz and Keshe done it this long I suspect QEG will go for quite some time.
Sadly, there is a long list of people who have gotten away with making such unsubstantiated claims for many years.  I recently saw where that long time fanciful story teller Mark Goldes has nearly verbatim applied his old magnetic generator schtick to his bull shit ambient heat harvester claims.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #631 on: May 02, 2014, 01:34:09 AM »
Thank you George AKA Herm...you da man.

Regards...

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #632 on: May 02, 2014, 02:46:22 AM »
Greetings:
I am new to this site and am reposting the following which I have already posted on the QEG be-do.com site.
I am attaching two pdf documents.  Please read them in the following order:

1st pdf attachment (our first attempt to reverse engineer the QEG)
this posting
2nd pdf attachment (a description of our construction of a 1/4 scale version of the QEG)


Resonance Achieved!!
Development and Test of Mini-QEG
In this note, Mark and I (George, aka Herm), both electrical engineers continue into our investigation of the operating principals of the QEG. 
In our first PDF note, we reverse engineered the design of the QEG to the best of our abilities without having an actual working unit to test.  Since obtaining a full-sized core will take some time, we decided to build a smaller test device.  Our first attempt was revealed in a note describing a core fabricated from a metal tape-wound toroid with machined, clamp-on pole pieces.  This approach proved unusable because testing revealed the lack of sufficient magnetic coupling to the toroid to allow inductive modulation.  During the test, we discovered an unexpected 16 Mhz signal on the core resonance winding.  It was later discovered that this signal was emanating from the arcing of the DC motor carbon brushes.   The signal was being picked up by the core windings acting as a magnetic loop antenna.  We issued a note when this was discovered and then abandoned study of this device and constructed a new Mini-QEG.
Later, upon further contemplation, we realized that a signal of this type may have been used in the original QEG to energize the "exciter coil".  In the larger (1 HP) motor, brush arcing would produce a lower frequency signal, possibly around 1 Mhz.    The resonant "exciter coil" would pick up the signal and develop enough voltage to fire the spark gap providing a current pulse to the output winding thus polarizing the core and helping to initiate core resonance.  This possibility was demonstrated by firing a charged capacitor into the output winding of the operating mini-QEG producing a much larger output.  This effect could also be produced by using a bar magnet with one pole facing the shaft end of the mini-QEG effectively jump starting phase-locked resonance.  This resonance would continue after magnet removal.
See attached PDF  for details, schematics, and photos.


Thank you. You guys are the reason why we should not dismiss everything we think we've already been taught!
Keep up the great work - hopefully we'll see whether the QEG has real merits.


cheers,
chrisC

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #632 on: May 02, 2014, 02:46:22 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #633 on: May 02, 2014, 06:07:40 AM »
Captain Zero and ChrisC,

We have to get real, whether that be on the debunking side of the equation or that be on supporting side of the equation.

What that means is this:  If you endorse something as a bare minimum that should mean that you read through the material and understand it to a reasonable extent and have rendered your honest opinion about the material.

What that should not mean is this:  You endorse anything that is positive with respect to something even if you don't understand it.

When you guys say, "you da man" or "keep up the great work" you make it sound like you guys know what George and Mark are discussing in their papers.

I don't think either of you guys know or understand what is being discussed in those papers based on a large number of your previous postings.  So you are being cheerleaders without understanding the rules of the football game.

If you are going to cheerlead, then don't mislead.  If you said something like "I don't understand it but you da man" then that would be a more honest statement.  We can't go around misleading the readers now, can we?

I am not even directly discussing what is being said in the papers, I am making a generic point that is a very important issue.

I hope that you get it.  Let's not drown ourselves in B.S. and become an equally bad mirror image of your many alleged false fronts and fifth columns and paid shills.  Be truthful in your comments, and that truth must include being truthful about yourselves.

MileHigh

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #634 on: May 02, 2014, 06:13:19 AM »
Hey Milehigh:


I don't have a Mile High ego. I'm a Electrical Engineer/ software engineer and a inventor who sold my own patents for $ you cannot even imagined. So, can we just leave it at that. What I write to encourage others is none of your business. You can write all kinds of crap and that's what you do best. Keep on doing it. Stay out of thinking on my behalf.


cheers
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #634 on: May 02, 2014, 06:13:19 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #635 on: May 02, 2014, 06:17:57 AM »
@MH

The man presents himself well (take note)...claims he has resonance...who says he doesn't ?

Not you...but yet you dismiss it as BS.

Do you actually read what you write on here ?

I don't think you know or understand what is being discussed in those papers based on a large number of your previous postings. 

So you are booing from the sidelines without understanding the rules of the football game.

Oy vey...

Regards...



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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #636 on: May 02, 2014, 06:33:49 AM »
Hey Milehigh:

I don't have a Mile High ego. I'm a Electrical Engineer/ software engineer and a inventor who sold my own patents for $ you cannot even imagined. So, can we just leave it at that. What I write to encourage others is none of your business. You can write all kinds of crap and that's what you do best. Keep on doing it. Stay out of thinking on my behalf.

cheers
chrisC

ChrisC,

I don't believe you and let's leave it at that.  What I have consistently observed from you are postings alleging that I don't know what I am talking about when the truth is for the most part I do know what I am talking about and when I am not sure of what I am talking about I readily admit it.  So I interpret your postings about me as just pure sour grapes.  You propagandize about me and lie about my qualifications and I have to assume that it's obvious to many people.  So if you lie about me, and you do it repeatedly, why should anyone believe you when you say you are an electrical engineer with many patents that made you rich?  I can't recall a single sound technical posting from you, which would be very strange if you claim that you are an engineer.  Look at your quoted posting, where you state that I "write all kinds of crap."  In my opinion that's just sour grapes from a free energy enthusiast that has no technical background.  I stand by my opinion that you just made a mindless cheerleading posting about the two papers.

And I am the real (ex) engineer, and you have read many of my postings and I am pretty sure that you realize that.  So no more silly sour-grapes comments from the peanut gallery from you like, "You can write all kinds of crap and that's what you do best."  That's pure B.S.  Get over it and just be real.

MileHigh

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #636 on: May 02, 2014, 06:33:49 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #637 on: May 02, 2014, 06:38:37 AM »
" ChrisC,

I don't believe you and let's leave it at that.  "



But he didn't, did he...he never does.

Hey everybody, I think I have just discovered free energy...this guy is looped.

Regards...



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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #638 on: May 02, 2014, 06:41:50 AM »
Captain Zero,

Quoting you parroting me:

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I don't think you know or understand what is being discussed in those papers based on a large number of your previous postings. 

So you are booing from the sidelines without understanding the rules of the football game.

I haven't even commented on either of those postings, yet you play your "Repartee for Dummies" game again.  Plus in your parroting you are lying also.

What a joke.

That's the end of it, I won't spar with either of you any more in this thread.  I made the point that for both of you, you were mindlessly cheerleading.  That's just being an unpaid shill for your longing for free energy.  Wouldn't it be nice if one day the free energy dream comes true.  However, unpaid shilling to promote free energy will not help the cause.  Rather, it will hurt the cause.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #638 on: May 02, 2014, 06:41:50 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #639 on: May 02, 2014, 06:45:37 AM »
ChrisC,

I don't believe you and let's leave it at that. ...
MileHigh


Good for you. There are things in life you'll never understand. You try so so hard to write so much crap or half truths and you are so convinced to believe that others are equally impressed by the 'volumes' of your postings. Very sad. It's like this. In software the least amount of code you write to solve the problem the better is the quality of software. So, you're a 'ex-engineer'. I presumed your 'technical' knowledge is not too good and no one wants to employ an old engineer? Especially one that talks too much crap? Truth?
As to my qualifications and success - these things are more real than you have brain cells. But you are not in the position to know either. So, you'll just have to keep guessing.


cheers,
chrisC

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #640 on: May 02, 2014, 06:51:38 AM »
ChrisC,

So you want to puff out your chest?   I challenge you right now, no Google, in your own words, write out six full paragraphs that describe how a coil works and two more paragraphs explaining how coils and capacitors are actually very very similar.

Let's see if you are FoS or not.

MileHigh

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #640 on: May 02, 2014, 06:51:38 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #641 on: May 02, 2014, 06:54:10 AM »
ChrisC,

So you want to puff out you chest?   I challenge you right now, no Google, in your own words, write out six full paragraphs that describe how a coil works and two more paragraphs explaining how coils and capacitors are actually very very similar.

Let's see if you are FoS or not.

MileHigh


Get a life man. Not only do you write crap and talk too much, you're also childish. Try to learn something solid instead.
cheers
chrisC


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #642 on: May 02, 2014, 06:56:42 AM »
According to all rigidly conventional minds in the electrical field this QEG will not work.

I am sure there are many sites populated by these 'conventional minds'...that is where they belong - not  here, on an 'out of the box' thinking forum.

Unless they are here to derail topical discussion, what purpose do they serve ?

Regards...



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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #643 on: May 02, 2014, 06:56:57 AM »
ChrisC:  Thank you for confirming that you are FoS.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #644 on: May 02, 2014, 07:20:45 AM »
Greetings:
I am new to this site and am reposting the following which I have already posted on the QEG be-do.com site.
I am attaching two pdf documents.  Please read them in the following order:

1st pdf attachment (our first attempt to reverse engineer the QEG)
this posting
2nd pdf attachment (a description of our construction of a 1/4 scale version of the QEG)


Resonance Achieved!!
Development and Test of Mini-QEG
In this note, Mark and I (George, aka Herm), both electrical engineers continue into our investigation of the operating principals of the QEG. 
In our first PDF note, we reverse engineered the design of the QEG to the best of our abilities without having an actual working unit to test.  Since obtaining a full-sized core will take some time, we decided to build a smaller test device.  Our first attempt was revealed in a note describing a core fabricated from a metal tape-wound toroid with machined, clamp-on pole pieces.  This approach proved unusable because testing revealed the lack of sufficient magnetic coupling to the toroid to allow inductive modulation.  During the test, we discovered an unexpected 16 Mhz signal on the core resonance winding.  It was later discovered that this signal was emanating from the arcing of the DC motor carbon brushes.   The signal was being picked up by the core windings acting as a magnetic loop antenna.  We issued a note when this was discovered and then abandoned study of this device and constructed a new Mini-QEG.
Later, upon further contemplation, we realized that a signal of this type may have been used in the original QEG to energize the "exciter coil".  In the larger (1 HP) motor, brush arcing would produce a lower frequency signal, possibly around 1 Mhz.    The resonant "exciter coil" would pick up the signal and develop enough voltage to fire the spark gap providing a current pulse to the output winding thus polarizing the core and helping to initiate core resonance.  This possibility was demonstrated by firing a charged capacitor into the output winding of the operating mini-QEG producing a much larger output.  This effect could also be produced by using a bar magnet with one pole facing the shaft end of the mini-QEG effectively jump starting phase-locked resonance.  This resonance would continue after magnet removal.
See attached PDF  for details, schematics, and photos.

From PDF QEG v2_2, "James Robitaille stated that the exciter is not necessary for the basic operation of the QEG; therefore,
we omitted it from this analysis."  What defines basic operation?  Is this power produced on the output coil with COP < 1, or resonance regardless of any production of power?

Now if basic operation is to mean functions as a switched reluctance generator (SRG), then I would say yes the exciter is not needed other than to place a small initial remanence magnetism in the core.  Where does more out than in fit into this claim?  I wonder if experimenters will continue to reinvent the wheel by producing power from a device that long since has be patented and used.

I have no doubt the QEG would produce power as an SR generator, there is no mysticism about them. 
Any one know what component of the released manual takes this particular generator a step further from a COP < 1 to a COP ~= 10?  The cap bank, the exciter, the 1.5 inch unit dimension of the construction?  Surely the QEG team or at least the inventor should know what the special component is and should just come out and say it and be done with the mysticism.

 

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