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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1425434 times)

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #270 on: April 15, 2014, 03:15:03 PM »
@ seamonkey
"Those who've never been in the near vicinity of any
of these mysterious devices do indeed have a very
difficult time accepting that they may in fact be
possible."


Having spend nearly 10 years and taking up to 40 plus flights a year assessing these devices and claims, I actually tend to think it is less likely as time goes on. My journey has taken me to over 60 locations around the world and the testing, investigating of over 100 devices. Several associates and friends have done  as much if not more as I, and reached the same conclusion.


could you please share how many device you have been up close to to form your opinion????


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #271 on: April 15, 2014, 03:25:19 PM »

“ It’s not up to us to prove the technology works, we gave it away, open sourced it, and it’s up to the engineers and the people to make it work.” HopeGirl

I rest my case. For those of you who are spending a lot of money and time on this replication, please bear in mind the plans given to you for free do not work as claimed. I wish you all the best.

Kind Regards
Mark Dansie


Through your statement is technically true, I would say that in view of the report of how the plans were hurriedly rushed out, those plans are preliminary at best. It's obvious that the omission of the rectifier in the plans was an oversight, easily accounted for.

From my investigation of James' dealings with WITTS in obtaining the information that he was able to obtain about the WITTS' QEG, it's not like like WITTS made an absolute and comprehensive full disclosure to him. As far as I can tell, James is doing the best he can in releasing what had hitherto been concealed from the general public, and for that, he has my appreciation.

The recent statements by James that the QEG is a high voltage generator is something that is amazing to me, and I'm grateful to him for letting me know that, and I hope he will continue to discover new things about the QEG and share them with us.

Regards,

VIDBID

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #272 on: April 15, 2014, 03:40:26 PM »
VIDBID, do you think it's ethical for someone to promote a project and solicit and collect funds for it, over a hundred thousand dollars already that we know about, based on false claims of already having a prototype that produces overunity performance? When there is absolutely no evidence that the design actually works as claimed? And even the claimants now are finding that they cannot produce the performance advertised?

Notice that this is a different question than "does it, or can it, work". 



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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #272 on: April 15, 2014, 03:40:26 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #273 on: April 15, 2014, 03:47:08 PM »
Through your statement is technically true, I would say that in view of the report of how the plans were hurriedly rushed out, those plans are preliminary at best. It's obvious that the omission of the rectifier in the plans was an oversight, easily accounted for.

From my investigation of James' dealings with WITTS in obtaining the information that he was able to obtain about the WITTS' QEG, it's not like like WITTS made an absolute and comprehensive full disclosure to him. As far as I can tell, James is doing the best he can in releasing what had hitherto been concealed from the general public, and for that, he has my appreciation.

The recent statements by James that the QEG is a high voltage generator is something that is amazing to me, and I'm grateful to him for letting me know that, and I hope he will continue to discover new things about the QEG and share them with us.

Regards,

VIDBID

There are two problems
1. The WITTS device never worked as claimed. I an many others I know who have visited him have never seen a convincing demonstration of the technology in the. last 10 years So there lies the real problem.
2. They claimed they had a working generator publicly many times. This is not the case.
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Mark Dansie

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #274 on: April 15, 2014, 04:05:23 PM »
There are two problems
1. The WITTS device never worked as claimed. I an many others I know who have visited him have never seen a convincing demonstration of the technology in the. last 10 years So there lies the real problem.
2. They claimed they had a working generator publicly many times. This is not the case.
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Mark Dansie

1. How are you defining the term "worked" and according to who's claim? I don't know what you or the unnamed individuals to whom you refer would consider a convincing demonstration.

2. What are your criteria for a working demonstration of what you are referring to?

3. What exactly are you referring to?

4. I also believe understanding what you mean depends on how you are defining the term "working".

5. Who exactly are "they" that you are referring to?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #274 on: April 15, 2014, 04:05:23 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #275 on: April 15, 2014, 04:08:18 PM »
VIDBID, do you think it's ethical for someone to promote a project and solicit and collect funds for it, over a hundred thousand dollars already that we know about, based on false claims of already having a prototype that produces overunity performance? When there is absolutely no evidence that the design actually works as claimed? And even the claimants now are finding that they cannot produce the performance advertised?

Notice that this is a different question than "does it, or can it, work".

Do you think it is ethical to criticize people for not allowing comments on their videos?

Regards,

VIDBID

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #276 on: April 15, 2014, 04:15:19 PM »
1. How are you defining the term "worked" and according to who's claim? I don't know what you or the unnamed individuals to whom you refer would consider a convincing demonstration.


The unnamed are under NDA with Witts (so will remain so). Worked means produced more output energy than input energy (direct or stored)

2. What are your criteria for a working demonstration of what you are referring to?


Measuring more output energy than input energy (simple)

3. What exactly are you referring to?


You measure the volts and amps in and measure either the mechanical or electrical energy out

4. I also believe understanding what you mean depends on how you are defining the term "working".


Working means as claimed...more energy out than in

5. Who exactly are "they" that you are referring to?


Scientist, engineers, investors and representatives for the investors

Regards,

VIDBID


So have you tested or viewed a WITTS device first hand "
Kind Regards
Mark

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #276 on: April 15, 2014, 04:15:19 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #277 on: April 15, 2014, 04:16:15 PM »
I believe that James indicates that the exciter resonates when 600v is in series with it.

http://youtu.be/2nTgfrjnZEY?t=5m53s

Is that what he is saying?

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VIDBID

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #278 on: April 15, 2014, 04:19:54 PM »

So have you tested or viewed a WITTS device first hand "
Kind Regards
Mark

Did you operate and disassemble the WITTS QEG to see how it worked?

Regards,

VIDBID

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #278 on: April 15, 2014, 04:19:54 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #279 on: April 15, 2014, 05:12:03 PM »
Did you operate and disassemble the WITTS QEG to see how it worked?

Regards,

VIDBID


That was never allowed for good reason......I think you can figure out why lol.
I have been involved in many other failed devices that were pulled apart.
The onus is not on me to prove it worked or did not work, but those making the claims. Without supporting data, evidence or otherwise then their is no supported claim. We have already seen the QED go form a Free Energy device that was claimed to be operational to something that has fallen well short of providing any excess energy. It is fine to have development projects, but call them that from the start.
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #280 on: April 15, 2014, 05:26:42 PM »
I believe that somebody asked about QEG caps: http://be-do.com/index.php/en/qeg-parts-tools/113-qeg-capacitors

In some of my research, I have found some interesting material.

I don't know if I'm reading this article by Sterling Allan correctly but it seems to me from what I read (and I could be wrong about that) that Mr. Dansie doesn't believe that motor-generators are capable of overunity, that, essentially, they are all bogus? Please correct me if I am wrong about that.

http://freeenergynews.com/SmartScarecrow/2013/12/12/

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Congress:Former_Member:Mark_Anthony_Dansie

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #280 on: April 15, 2014, 05:26:42 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #281 on: April 15, 2014, 05:46:16 PM »
It is fine to have development projects, but call them that from the start.
Kind Regards
Mark

That sounds reasonable enough to me for any type of business.

The beauty for me is I don't know. I don't know if the QEG works, but then again, I don't know that it doesn't work.

If it doesn't work, then what have I lost? Some time and effort. Do I intend to part with my money? Not at this time. However, I am willing to look at this technology with an open mind.

One thing is certain: The genie is out of the bottle, and it isn't going back in.

Regards,

VIDBID

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #282 on: April 15, 2014, 05:51:31 PM »
@gotoluc

I left you a post at OUR, Maybe take a read and let me know.

Listen, this QEG is doing what? Producing volts. Just use a Tesla coil and it will do the same thing.

Basically if this QEG requires anything that will rotate, what do you think will be the outcome. Moving a piece of iron to produce an electromagnet, and then we all wonder why it seizes.

My gut tells me this is a group of people that embarked on a build, went a little overboard on costs, did not get the results and now they are trying to recoup as much as they can by convincing others to chime in with some money to get "starter plans" of something that does not work. Chime in on what?

I was in a Quebec group of motor/generator/gearing guys and we spent 250K to find out certain methods won't work. hahaha. We did not afterwards go public to offer to sell the tech slating it as "for further development".

My own hint when planning to make big builds, first establish a small R&D business. I have three companies, two that are in my specialty of water treatment and the third I use only for R&D. All my R&D expenses go into that company and the capital just grows and grows. If I close the company tomorrow, I can get 50% of the capital as personal tax credit. If I use the company to make a big profit on something (it has to be big), then after paying a corporate tax of 20% I can then take all the capital I put in right back into my pocket non-taxable. One day, if I ever decide to actually pay myself a salary for R&D, the Canadian Government will pay me back 50% of that. hahaha

The QEG will work miracles when one day, we find a way to make that piece of iron approach the MOT then disappear. But that is not possible in the foreseeable future. The only other way I can think of is explained at OUR.

The solution I am proposing to you at OUR is to try and push the idea into a more realistic and especially a more out-of-the-box approach. Imagine a huge core having a coil of 20-40 Henries or so, just moving the plate in and out not even at a very fast speed should produce some good output that could be capped and then really be usable. Is it OU, don't know but it has a much better shot at working then turning a wheel.

But as soon as you start playing the rotation game, you are stuck with the progressive rise, peak, progressive fall and during all that time, you are setting up the electromagnetic demise because the approaching iron generates the jail it then gets caught in.

The other main problem with your testing versus QEG is leverage. Since your I core is at the outside of a rotating system, a drag of 1 between the I and E core will be transfered to the motor as a drag of 10 (as an example). So just a slight seizing at the outer end of the rotation will produce great drag force on the motor. That's leverage and the way it is set-up, it is working against you.

The QEG on the other hand has the rotor plates close to the shaft so the reverse leverage from drag will still be felt but not as much as your system. It will however suffer from lower rotor plate speed across the stator plates. This is because at a fixed RPM, a large diameter wheel will provide more end speed then a smaller diameter wheel. So the QEG only had one more option, increase rotation speed, but as you increase rotation speed, if you do not increase the applied horsepower as well, you now will have much less torque. So this game has been played and played and played for so many years and people forget to consider all the chips on the table before placing a bet. They think they are doing something new, spend the bucks, then cry to mommy when it all goes south.

But whatever you do man, I am always loving every minute of it because I appreciate your genuine effort to help the world, like many of us here. Pure intent is what you exude when you are authentic. And, it does not hurt to have friends that check your back. hahaha

The pick up coil wants to see change. Change occurs when the iron plate approaches and it also occurs when it backs away. The small instant of no movement is what I would be interested in that you cannot produce when rotating. hehehe

wattsup

Thanks wattsup for taking the time to write such a long post.

For some reason I never get email notification of a replied at OUR?

I agree with what you say but since there was a super high value Inductance connected to a capacitor it really got my attention because of my work and experiments on the effects of phase shift.

For the past two days I've been testing a design of my own of a solid state version. I see a little OU but it's small, at most 1 watt, so it could be scope math power calculation error. I'll try to boost it (if I can) to try to eliminate possible error.

I'll look at OUR for your post

Luc

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #283 on: April 15, 2014, 05:57:30 PM »
I believe that somebody asked about QEG caps: http://be-do.com/index.php/en/qeg-parts-tools/113-qeg-capacitors

In some of my research, I have found some interesting material.

I don't know if I'm reading this article by Sterling Allan correctly but it seems to me from what I read (and I could be wrong about that) that Mr. Dansie doesn't believe that motor-generators are capable of overunity, that, essentially, they are all bogus? Please correct me if I am wrong about that.

http://freeenergynews.com/SmartScarecrow/2013/12/12/

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Congress:Former_Member:Mark_Anthony_Dansie

Regards,

VIDBID


I have seen none to date that work, however I am happy to keep my mind open. There are some other interesting anomalies and approaches I have been made aware of that may make the process possible, but not in the form of a magnetic motor generator.
Sterling has an excellent site that has documented hundreds of failed magnetic motors and sell looped gensets over the last decade. Some even ended up in jail.
I personally do not give much credibility to anything Sterling says, especially the numerology nonsense. He does provide a valuable service.
Kind Regards
Mark
PS you can read my articles at Revolution_Green.com
Kind Regards as always



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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #284 on: April 15, 2014, 07:00:43 PM »
Hi Luc and Laurent,

Thank you for those tests. While I'm not really following the QEG I find the change in inductance and the self excitation from it's change through a capacitor fascinating. Luc's test with the oscillation slowly building up reminds me of a flux compression generator. Instead of placing a seed voltage on the coils it is built up internally.

I finally got in the lab and did a very simple test with an electromagnet to see how bringing different material near the coil would change the inductance. Attached is a pdf of the results.

Using the preliminary results it might be possible to make sectors or squirrel cage type design of alternating aluminum and galvanized steel wire (electric fence wire) to pass in front of the inductor to induce parametric change.

A solid state version might be possible by just shorting out a coil. I haven't tried this but an idea is to take a galvanized steel core and wrap a coil (maybe aluminum wire?) around it, then short and un-short with a switch. Would have to do more tests to see how shorting a coil wrapped around the material would effect the inductance. The efficiency is still the question though.

Here are some patents for reference.

4200831 - Compensated pulsed alternator

https://www.google.com/patents/US4200831

4266180 - Method of and means for high performance direct current electrical pulse generation utilizing mechanical energy storage

https://www.google.com/patents/US4266180

4431960 - Current Amplifying Apparatus

https://www.google.com/patents/US4431960

4935708 - High energy pulse forming generator

https://www.google.com/patents/US4935708


Keep experimenting. :)

 

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