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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1425421 times)

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #195 on: April 13, 2014, 03:53:43 AM »
Jbignes5:

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No i took issue with the method to measure residual magnetism. You knew the compass had a magnet in it and hence why it was designed to look like the core was magnetized. Most uneducated people who are working here believe that crap and hence my comment that this is a bad guy tactic.

If you noticed I just kicked your butt in the previous posting.  No bad guy tactic, your comments are ridiculous.  When it comes to the educational level with respect to electronics and who is educated and who is uneducated, you have to take a good look in the mirror and be honest with yourself.

Take me off of your agenda and let's just discuss the technical aspects of Luc and Woopy's tests.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #196 on: April 13, 2014, 04:02:31 AM »

 Ugh Milehigh please come down to earth ok.

 In fact magnetism is the cause of the vibration. When a current is drawn from the coils it creates a magnetic field within the core when they align and to a certain extent when they get a certain degree from alignment. The fact that it doesn't appear to do much in the QEG design means that it might be a locking effect on the rotor of the Luc design. The important thing is that luc is also seeing an event when it goes into resonance. Lucs design isn't rigid enough to handle the abuse and must be pulling the I's into a deadlock position when that resonance is reached. This is due to current flowing in the coils and creating a magnetic field which slowly locks onto the poles.


 Again why not use a toroid like I suggested with no poles. Tesla said that it was like having a toroid with unlimited poles without using poles at all in his designs. Poles create cogging and huge losses. Why not get rid of them?

 I'll search for the specific Tesla saying about the pole issue. Oh and for motors poles work best I would think for maximum torque.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #197 on: April 13, 2014, 04:11:03 AM »
Hi everyone,

the suggestion of having the bulbs in series on the high voltage side has helped stabilize the Resonance.

Here is the video demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-jYPDuueY0

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #197 on: April 13, 2014, 04:11:03 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #198 on: April 13, 2014, 05:19:40 AM »
Luc:

I am going to give you a suggestion for using the compass with a simple example that perhaps you can apply in your own way with your setup.

We know the compass is a magnet itself.  So it has the ability to disturb it's own measurements.  This is an issue that comes up all the time in all sorts of applications of sensors.  For an example, when you use an ammeter, it disturbs the current measurement by introducing an extra resistance into the current loop.  However, you understand in most cases the disturbance is insignificant.

The way to overcome this issue with the compass is to make differential measurements.

Suppose you have a rectangular block of metal to check for residual magnetism, and you also have an identical block of metal that is not magnetized.

The compass is lined up North-South and you approach the compass with the unmagnetized metal block and place it so the compass deflects 45 degrees.  Now, since the block of metal is unmagnetized, if you turn it around by 180 degrees and put it in the same position, the compass will still be deflected by 45 degrees.

Now if you do the same test with the slightly magnetized block you will get different results.  In one position the compass might be deflected by 43 degrees.  Turn the block around and the compass might be deflected by 47 degrees.  That is clearly telling you that there is some residual magnetism in the second block of metal.

Note that you don't need the unmagnetized block of metal as a reference.  I simply used it in the description to make the point.

Your box is built so I don't know if you can make this measurement.  If you had the "I" core and the "E" core on your bench you could in theory do these tests.  Note that you have to test for the three main polarization directions for a block also, x, y, and z.  You assume that you don't know what the direction of the polarization is.

MileHigh

Thanks for the suggestions on the better way to use the compass. I'll keep it in mind for next to to check before I close cores up in a box as I think it too late now as there's not enough room to do the tests as you suggest.

Luc

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #199 on: April 13, 2014, 05:23:36 AM »
Luc,
   I am the guy that PMed Woopy about striking the transformer. In my best tests last night I obtained 481 volts from the secondary winding of a 17 pound microwave oven transformer from a 1978 Sharp microwave. I used a 2 1/2 pound rod of hardened steel. Results can be obtained from striking anywhere on the laminations in any direction. The steel is not magnetic but I am aware that the core could be shifting in the bobbin although I can not detect and movement and I have the equipment to do that. Just to be sure I tried a second transformer from an old oscilloscope which have visible runs of hardened varnish still dripped all over it. The winding has taps for 130 120 110 24 12 volt. It weighs about 1.5 lbs and is about the size of my hand. The best it has produced is 108 volts. I have an old choke about the same size with only one winding that makes 10 volts every time.
    Using the microwave transformer I hooked a neon bulb across the secondary and it will blink long enough to see easily. The scope shows six or seven breaks each hit at about 170 volts.
    The first spike wave lasts almost always 250 us.
     When I strike the laminations I use a good blow but power is not as useful as sharpness. Think of striking a bell.
     I am not disputing anyone's results only saying the effect is very interesting to me.
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Hi Garry,

interesting results!... can you make a video demo of your experiment?

Thanks

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #199 on: April 13, 2014, 05:23:36 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #200 on: April 13, 2014, 03:49:56 PM »
If varying the inductance parameter is all that is required then it can be done without any rotor and with a very small input power. If I take an off the shelf 220 to 15 v transformer that has two 15 volt windings then simply short one of the 15 volt windings the inductance of the 220 volt winding varies from 4.4 H to almost nothing, then if I use a 12 volt bulb with a cold resistance of 5.5 ohms it varies between 4.4 H and 200 mH. Will that excite the transformer if I switch a load in and out at the correct frequency ? I think there is more to it than just varying the inductance, something missing, which is I think input.

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QEG report from Germany. He has had his for over a year so it must be Witts device. 

Looking at the report below it seems like they don't understand why they can't turn the several thousand watts of oscillating power (accumulated) in the tank into a continuous output. It's comical. Grasping at straws when they resort to the old line of
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"I think it has overunity potential because no matter what you attach to the output ,the QEG draws not more power."


On the other hand that behavior says to me that the output is limited to a bit less than the unloaded input.

From peswiki - http://peswiki.com/index.php/Free_Energy_Blog:2014:04:10#German_Group_achieves_QEG_resonance
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5kV @ 500mA
Somebody built a QEG in Germany and now has resonance.
In fact he writes in the comments that he has been tuning this machine for about a year and also gave up several times, but then with the Plans from Hopegirl he could bring the machine to work.
"A test 3 days ago showed up that we have 9300V at 0.7A. The Problem is somewhere in the Transformation between primary windings and secondary windings. If we start with a higher load attached like 500 Watt lamps we reach resonance but the lamp didn't light up. The machine is producing "raw power".
I think it has overunity potential because no matter what you attach to the output ,the QEG draws not more power. The secret is to get the exciter tank circuit to run properly, only then we can have more power than 150 Watts. Its like in Taiwan they havn't attached more than two bulbs right? Its the same here. Only raw power!"

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #201 on: April 13, 2014, 04:44:52 PM »
 Hey Farmhand, you are correct, the germans QEG is a WITTS device. If you go to his forum at http://www.qeg-forum.de/, you will find a little more info there.
His screen name is TeslaTech. You must register to see any images in the post.. In the thread "Construction" he says that he got his info from Tim Thrapp via Skype, but obviously not all the info needed.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #202 on: April 13, 2014, 05:31:13 PM »
Hi everyone,

the suggestion of having the bulbs in series on the high voltage side has helped stabilize the Resonance.

Here is the video demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-jYPDuueY0

Luc

Do you have any more bulbs to add in series? ;D

Mags

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #203 on: April 13, 2014, 05:37:46 PM »
If varying the inductance parameter is all that is required then it can be done without any rotor and with a very small input power. If I take an off the shelf 220 to 15 v transformer that has two 15 volt windings then simply short one of the 15 volt windings the inductance of the 220 volt winding varies from 4.4 H to almost nothing, then if I use a 12 volt bulb with a cold resistance of 5.5 ohms it varies between 4.4 H and 200 mH. Will that excite the transformer if I switch a load in and out at the correct frequency ? I think there is more to it than just varying the inductance, something missing, which is I think input.

..

QEG report from Germany. He has had his for over a year so it must be Witts device. 

Looking at the report below it seems like they don't understand why they can't turn the several thousand watts of oscillating power (accumulated) in the tank into a continuous output. It's comical. Grasping at straws when they resort to the old line of 

On the other hand that behavior says to me that the output is limited to a bit less than the unloaded input.

From peswiki - http://peswiki.com/index.php/Free_Energy_Blog:2014:04:10#German_Group_achieves_QEG_resonance
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 Farmhand,


 The inductances have only a part in the whole machine. What they are saying is the high voltage comes from the Steel as a piezo type effect. Don't know if I agree but that is the source of the voltage. The coils then boost that voltage. The switching of the inductances only is used to route the voltage after it is picked up and is a guide for magnetic forces after the process starts.. Of course after the magnetics start shortcutting and cutting the coil it runs in resonance. The extra generation is from the magnetic field being channeled into the rotor then going into various portions of the toroid. But I will have to look at it way more closely to understand the basic function.


 This is very familiar isn't it Farmhand? The only difference I can see from this and my angle is that they don't have a central Coil on the rotor to pull off Current from the magnetic portion of the device that travels along the rotor. Oh wait the system I was looking at uses two phases and is actively driven from a magneto. With the prime mover already integrated into this system you won't have switching problems like they are having.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #205 on: April 13, 2014, 05:57:34 PM »
http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-news/226-update-april-13-from-the-qeg-team-in-taiwan

53 minutes of nothing but Robitaille talking? And then a few minutes at the end on "how to use your computer to do a videoconference"?

Yep, that's the kind of update we need, for sure. I feel a lot more confident now.... don't you?


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #206 on: April 13, 2014, 06:00:49 PM »
Well, I don't know. It's a free world. You can decide what is crap and what isn't.


Cheers
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #207 on: April 13, 2014, 07:07:19 PM »
Do you have any more bulbs to add in series? ;D

Mags

I do!...why?

Luc

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #208 on: April 13, 2014, 07:28:04 PM »
53 minutes of nothing but Robitaille talking? And then a few minutes at the end on "how to use your computer to do a videoconference"?

Yep, that's the kind of update we need, for sure. I feel a lot more confident now.... don't you?


 Wow obviously you didn't hear what they are working on and all the questions being answered to the best of his ability.


 Why are you constantly attacking this guy. No wonder they left America to do this work. Faced with your cynicism who would want to deal with that. They left because of this attitude and they are spreading this FAR and wide without your or my help.


 Are you jealous that you didn't get to lambaste them with your cynicism?


 That video tells a lot but you choose not to listen. Fine I guess you go back to the end of the line when it comes time to hand out the plans and finished design.


 They have a plan, they are following the plan for an uninterruptible launch. It's a plan that doesn't include fighting nay sayers or defending the device. It is a plan of action, of doing then they will go to the critics and answer them WITH FACTS. They are improving it as we speak and each step is a very important one full of discovery and from what it looks like joy. Their goal is to win against all the odds that is stacked up against them. If the project works as designed then hey MORE POWER to them! Power that they will not be paying for ROFL!


 Your slip is showing. You are showing us every day who's side you are on. It's not ours thats for sure.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #209 on: April 13, 2014, 07:46:53 PM »

 Wow obviously you didn't hear what they are working on and all the questions being answered to the best of his ability.


 Why are you constantly attacking this guy. No wonder they left America to do this work. Faced with your cynicism who would want to deal with that. They left because of this attitude and they are spreading this FAR and wide without your or my help.


 Are you jealous that you didn't get to lambaste them with your cynicism?


 That video tells a lot but you choose not to listen. Fine I guess you go back to the end of the line when it comes time to hand out the plans and finished design.


 They have a plan, they are following the plan for an uninterruptible launch. It's a plan that doesn't include fighting nay sayers or defending the device. It is a plan of action, of doing then they will go to the critics and answer them WITH FACTS. They are improving it as we speak and each step is a very important one full of discovery and from what it looks like joy. Their goal is to win against all the odds that is stacked up against them. If the project works as designed then hey MORE POWER to them! Power that they will not be paying for ROFL!


 Your slip is showing. You are showing us every day who's side you are on. It's not ours thats for sure.


jbigness,  Very well said!    I think they have the best overall plan I've seen to get a free energy device out.   It may be part of their plan to get improvements along the way by getting others to build this as they teach the basics.   As each group learns to build it there will undoubtedly be some ideas come up on ways to make it better.     

 

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