Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl) (Read 1912213 times)

Jimboot · « **Reply #150 on:** April 12, 2014, 02:17:10 AM »

Quote from: gotoluc on April 12, 2014, 01:16:22 AM

Hi everyone,

I was out most of the day but had a chance to further test and video what happens when it hits resonance.

Please note, once I finished this test video the two rotor set screws had worked them self loose with the powerful vibrations.

I don't think I can go any further with this tests device as my design was mostly to confirm the effect Inductance parametric change have and confirm the effects that have been shared. My design becomes a disk brake at Resonance because the powerful vibrations flexes the rotor and the cores rub together, so I can't confirm how it affect the prime mover at Resonance.
I know that's the big question but I ask myself, why would it not be as they say since all the other effects are as shared.

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_CN6aE2meY

Luc

Fascinating video Luc thanks for sharing.

jbignes5 · « **Reply #151 on:** April 12, 2014, 04:48:54 AM »

Quote from: MileHigh on April 12, 2014, 01:56:37 AM

Luc, Woopy,

You both have pretty impressive setups. However, you have to start your investigation from the very beginning.

Your "E" cores and your "I" cores, did you check with a compass to see if there was any residual magnetization in them? What is another way to check for any possible residual magnetization? Perhaps you can come up with a better way.

Why should you check for this?

MileHigh

For Luc: In your clip with the high voltage and the breaking effect I think I know what is going on, or at least I have a theory. But perhaps that's better left for others to figure out.

Residual magnetism from what exactly? That is transformer steel you know a mot? residual magnetism pchhha.. Keep reaching there....

As for the comment I have a theory but that is left for others to figure out? Hmmm... Shall we say You have no theory... Why would you need a theory if this has already been explained by your science? Why not reach into the golden book of "Facts" and show us what ya got?

yfree · « **Reply #152 on:** April 12, 2014, 04:57:13 AM »

Luc,
Excellent work!
To make the oscillating system more stable at resonance, you may try to connect a few incandescent bulbs in series with the capacitor in similarity to Fig.62 in this paper.

chrisC · « **Reply #153 on:** April 12, 2014, 04:57:14 AM »

Quote from: MileHigh on April 12, 2014, 01:56:37 AM

...... at least I have a theory. But perhaps that's better left for others to figure out.

Best to leave your theory or whatever you think you understand behind.
Pay attention, don't write too much. Write only if it edifies and you know the stuff to make a difference.
Try to learn something instead of talking too much (crap).

cheers
chrisC

MileHigh · « **Reply #154 on:** April 12, 2014, 05:21:41 AM »

Jbignes5:

It's really sad when people that claim that they have open minds and want to explore act closed-minded and reject a suggestion to make a test to explore. You actively don't want to check something? Why would that be? You are "sure" it's not there?? It makes no sense for you to say that.

What are your thoughts on the high voltage and the braking effect? One more time you seem to be demonstrating hostility towards thinking, which is silly. So feel free to put your thinking cap on if you want and share your thoughts.

ChrisC:

Leave my theory behind? So does that mean that you too don't want to think and offer up your thoughts?

You allege that I write crap? Please go ahead and tell me what you think is crap.

You two guys are open-minded Luddites. Free energy neocons that don't like free thought unless it's your type of free thought. Also, let's see what you two have to say in six weeks when we can assume perhaps a hundred or more enthusiastic groups have had time to build and test the real QEG.

MileHigh

gotoluc · « **Reply #155 on:** April 12, 2014, 05:34:50 AM »

Quote from: yfree on April 12, 2014, 04:57:13 AM

Luc,
Excellent work!
To make the oscillating system more stable at resonance, you may try to connect a few incandescent bulbs in series with the capacitor in similarity to Fig.62 in this paper.

Thanks, I'll give it some consideration but somehow I think the bulbs in series on the tank circuit may prevent the resonance effect. Also, to be safe and allow the high voltage to go through it would require more bulbs in series then I have available.

Luc

markdansie · « **Reply #156 on:** April 12, 2014, 05:41:43 AM »

Milehigh
we all know where this is heading, as it has 100 times before in this and many other forums. Logic, science and just plain common sense becomes heresy. I already have the hate mail, threats lol. But the "we will show you brigade" goes very quiet until the next scam comes along.
That is why I like people like Russ Gries. He gets in, tests the claim and calls it as it is not what he wants it to be.
Sadly even at universities some researchers selectively select tests and data that supports their belief rather than take into account all results and data.
So I just chill out, get a few laughs and let people paint themselves in a corner. i then enjoy the silence that always follows. As far as people wanting to experiment, I applaud and encourage you, just cut out the BS.

Speaking of Silence: ""Apparently, things have gotten out of hand in this network and we have trolls and too many negative comments. To protect the integrity of this precious project for humanity I must leave this QEG Network room. For those of you who are sincere, please watch for updated blogposts as this breakthrough rolls out. Thank you and blessings to all." -HopeGirl

The spin doctor has spoken. The heads are in the sand

Kind Regards
Mark

Magluvin · « **Reply #157 on:** April 12, 2014, 06:03:06 AM »

Quote from: MileHigh on April 12, 2014, 05:21:41 AM

Jbignes5:

It's really sad when people that claim that they have open minds and want to explore act closed-minded and reject a suggestion to make a test to explore. You actively don't want to check something? Why would that be? You are "sure" it's not there?? It makes no sense for you to say that.

What are your thoughts on the high voltage and the braking effect? One more time you seem to be demonstrating hostility towards thinking, which is silly. So feel free to put your thinking cap on if you want and share your thoughts.

ChrisC:

Leave my theory behind? So does that mean that you too don't want to think and offer up your thoughts?

You allege that I write crap? Please go ahead and tell me what you think is crap.

You two guys are open-minded Luddites. Free energy neocons that don't like free thought unless it's your type of free thought. Also, let's see what you two have to say in six weeks when we can assume perhaps a hundred or more enthusiastic groups have had time to build and test the real QEG.

MileHigh

This is from the home page of this site....

Welcome to OverUnity.com

[/size] The International Open Source Free Energy Research Forum

free energy will change the world - free energy will stop all environmental pollution
Free energy will help to heal the planet earth.
In our disccusion forum www.overunity.com we talk about all kinds of free energy and alternative
and renewable energy systems.
The world will soon be very green without any pollution and any chemical fuel polutants
with this new technolgy.
What Tesla has begun in the 19th and 20th century we will now bring to
market in the 21th century.
With permanent magnet motors and Solid State magnet free energy convertes into the future.

free energy will give us hope
and we will not surrender until free energy will be enabled all over the world to power cars, ships and trains and
Free energy will help the poor to become independent of needing expensive fuels.

So all in all Free energy will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world."

These words above, from the home page, are why these guys are here. They dont think like you, and apparently dont want to. In case you have not noticed.

From MH's post above.... "You two guys are open-minded Luddites. Free energy neocons that don't like free thought unless it's your type of free thought. "

Mh, your supposed "free thought" comes from books that dont encourage or engage in the idea that free energy is possible. That is not free thought. That is called being programmed. Nothing free thought about it. All nice and tight in a little box.

Just like the quote from you above, you belittle people here with name calling. That is why these guys respond to you the way they do, period.

They know where you are coming from.

You never encourage the possibility of free energy. You only degrade it.

Soo, you will get responses such as you are replying to in your post I quoted above. Pretty simple really.

Do you think that name calling will change their minds even a smidgin? Like a good spanking?

Its the wrong approach if you are to get anywhere with your agenda of 'free energy is impossible'.

Mags

yfree · « **Reply #158 on:** April 12, 2014, 06:04:55 AM »

Quote from: gotoluc on April 12, 2014, 05:34:50 AM

Thanks, I'll give it some consideration but somehow I think the bulbs in series on the tank circuit may prevent the resonance effect. Also, to be safe and allow the high voltage to go through it would require more bulbs in series then I have available.

Luc

The bulbs in series will not prevent the resonance, they will rather limit the current at resonance.
The first thing is to get stable resonance.
Then, the resonance has to be moved to appropriate frequency...

Magluvin · « **Reply #159 on:** April 12, 2014, 06:31:27 AM »

Quote from: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 04:48:54 AM

Residual magnetism from what exactly? That is transformer steel you know a mot? residual magnetism pchhha.. Keep reaching there....

As for the comment I have a theory but that is left for others to figure out? Hmmm... Shall we say You have no theory... Why would you need a theory if this has already been explained by your science? Why not reach into the golden book of "Facts" and show us what ya got?

I had stated this about possible residual magnetism in the core earlier today. Its not impossible that there is possibly a bit of it in the core. When that primary gets hit with ac current when the microwave oven begins to cook something, it is possible that when the cooking is finished, the ac input could have been at a high note(peak), leaving some magnetism in the core. Just thoughts of possibility. We cant just assume there is simply none, never was and never will be, can we?

We have to eliminate, by checking all possibilities.

Im not saying there absolutely is. But if we dont check, we may never figure out the whats and whys of it all. I would have to agree with checking that possibility.

Ever used a degausing coil on and old tv picture tube screen? It takes a few swipes to demagnetize the iron screen behind the glass. Try unplugging the coil a few times while its in front of the screen. One time you unplug it the screen may look ok, and another time it will be possibly way off. It will depend when in the wave of the ac current that it is disconnected as to if the screen is magnetized or demagnetized.
lol I was a bad kid. I loved playing with magnets on the family color tv. But, I eventually found ways of using that same magnet by swiping it(many times and many ways) to get things looking pretty good again.

Mags

Jimboot · « **Reply #160 on:** April 12, 2014, 07:50:57 AM »

Hey guys,
If there is no residual magnetism in the cores any other theories why the May be happening. Btwt I hit my in tact mot with a hammer and got nuttin

MileHigh · « **Reply #161 on:** April 12, 2014, 08:05:30 AM »

Mark:

Thanks for your comments. As you can see, even the suggestion of a test that might somehow affect the agenda of what Gotoluc and Woopy's tests are all about is rejected by some. Even if it makes perfect sense it is rejected in a disrespectful way. Looking for an explanation of the phenomenon that Gotoluc and Woopy observe is rejected without wanting to even consider the merits of the test by some people. I can only guess that it's perceived as something that may go against the wishful and idealized agenda of what the QEG is allegedly about. That can't be permitted, or so they would like to think. Meanwhile, some people might lose their shirts putting out the cash to just build the thing. That's their choice, but at least some of them will want and have the right to consider and read differing opinions.

Quote

I already have the hate mail, threats lol

I admire your courage in the face of that. One can assume that most of it is harmless. However, one can never be sure and presume that they are all harmless. That's why I will not reveal my name, like many other people around here. I have received a lot of hate myself and I have at times been relentlessly bashed, demeaned, degraded and harassed.

If this whole project was launched after it had been tested and verified to work, then Hopegirl sure as hell should release the plans. Instead, like you said, it's a new bandwagon. Many people are already convinced that it's real. Logic, science and just plain common sense becomes heresy indeed.

MileHigh

Johan_1955 · « **Reply #162 on:** April 12, 2014, 08:26:48 AM »

Quote from: gotoluc on April 12, 2014, 12:51:17 AM

I had 2 light bulbs as load.
The limitation with my simple test design is the rotor I cores hit the E cores when resonance kicks in. This causes a braking action.
I will have to come up with a new heavier design that the rotor will not flex under resonance.
Luc

Good steps, LUC!

Maybe a try: Bring the system first to resonance, slow the loads / lamps with a rheostat to it, The lamp for lamp connecting, look his Timothy's movie again!?

Please, be very carefully with those unbalanced weight at those revolutions!!!!!!

-----

Saver experiment is: Single-phase motor, a MOT with flux-bridge to the secondary as exciter with spark & C, primary for load but again in steps loading!

nilrehob · « **Reply #163 on:** April 12, 2014, 09:19:09 AM »

Im not so sure its the change in inductance that generates the voltage, but rather that the moving iron is magnitized ever so slightly and then it builds up because of the resonance, just as when you use an async (no magnets) motor with caps as a generator?

/Hob

shinz62 · « **Reply #164 on:** April 12, 2014, 09:34:40 AM »

Quote from: gotoluc on April 12, 2014, 12:58:29 AM

Hi shinz62,

You are correct! my design becomes a disk brake at Resonance.

I like your understanding of the possible use and work of the belt. I'll incorporate it in the next design.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

Luc

Your welcome and thank you for sharing your very exciting results too!

Your video certainly does show dramatically how just flipping the inductance can generate a large AC output. Originally I had thought that the input current on the output coils had a major effect on generating the flux to drive the high impedance LC, but you have demonstrated that is not even necessary.

However, after seeing this latest video of yours it is now obvious to me that the magnetic force is incredible across the EI core so I doubt that this EI configuration can ever work to get free energy, it is too much like a conventional generators internal magnetic resistance.

The real trick is probably more about not requiring all the flux from the magnetic path that drives the output coil to cross between a moving rotor and the output coil, but rather providing an alternate path for the huge amount magnetic force from the flux that will be generated by the high inductance LC mains as they reach resonance.

In the QEG, the lion share of the flux will be able to stay in the torroidal outer core with the rotor merely providing a way to flip the inductance back and forth between high and low to keep driving the AC resonance. The belt may play an important part by providing a little bit of slack to prevent the magnetic grab on the rotor from directly impacting the motor speed and this only needs to give for an instant as the magnetic grab should only last a partial cycle considering the 400hz AC output. It probably grabs and releases multiple times as the rotor is in close proximity with the connecting points on the outer core but the ability for the belt to provide a stretch and rebound for each grab keeps the motor from feeling it full force.[size=78%] [/size]This could explain the noise and vibration of the QEG.

Then while the rotor is free the flux path has only one way to go, through the outer core, and not across the rotor thus providing an escape clause from lenz law entirely during this portion of the cycle.

And additionally, with the main outer core providing the main path for the flux while the rotor is in close proximity and merely a secondary path, any magnetic grab on the rotor will be greatly reduced, so says Flynn, and I have verified his ideas experimentally myself.

More food for thought.

Cookie	Origin	Persistency	Information and Usage
ecl_auth	overunity.com	Expires after 30 days	This cookie contains the text "EU Cookie Law - LiPF cookies authorised". Without this cookie, the Forums' software is prevented from setting other cookies.
SMFCookie648	overunity.com	Expires according to user-chosen session duration	If you log-in as a member of this site, this cookie contains your user name, an encrypted hash of your password and the time you logged-in. It is used by the site software to ensure that features such as indicating new Forum and Private messages are indicated to you. This cookie is essential for the site software to work correctly.
PHPSESSID	overunity.com	Current session only	This cookie contains a unique Session Identification value. It is set for both members and non-members (guests) and it is essential for the site software to work correctly. This cookie is not persistent and should be automatically removed when you close the browser window.
pmx_upshr{NAME}	overunity.com	Current session only	These cookies are set to records your display preferences for the site's Portal page if a panel or individual block is collapsed or expanded
pmx_pgidx_blk{ID}	overunity.com	Current session only	These cookies are set to records the page number for the site's Portal page if the page for a individual block is changed.
pmx_cbtstat{ID}	overunity.com	Current session only	These cookies are set to records the expand/collapse state for a CBT Navigator block content.
pmx_poll{ID}	overunity.com	Current session only	These cookies are set to records the id for the current poll in a multiple Poll block.
pmx_{fadername}	overunity.com	Current session only	These cookies are set to records the state for a Opac-Fader block.
pmx_LSBsub{ID}	overunity.com	Current session only	These cookies are set to records the current category and the state for a static Category block.
pmx_shout{ID}	overunity.com	Current session only	These cookies are set to records the current state of a Shout box block.
pmx_php_ckeck	overunity.com	Page load time	This cookie will probably never see you. It is set, if a Syntax check on a PHP block is initiated and will be deleted if the function executed.
pmx_YOfs	overunity.com	Page load time	This cookie will probably never see you. It is set on portal actions like click on a page number. The cookie is evaluated on load the desired page and then deleted. It is used to restore the vertical screen position as before the click.

1	We are aware that Google uses additional cookies it stores on your PC and when you browse our site and all other sites. These are used to target advertising and Google currently does this without seeking your permission. Four of these cookies we know about are named "rememberme", "NID", "PREF" and "PP_TOS_ACK" and are stored in Google's cache on your computer.
2	If you are accessing this site using someone else's computer, please ask the owner's permission before accepting cookies.
3	Your browser provides you with the ability to inspect all cookies stored on your PC. In addition your browser is responsible for removing "current session only" cookies and those that have expired; if your browser is not doing this, you should report the matter to your browser's authors.
4	We regret and apologies for any inconvenience this causes to members and guests who are accessing our web site from outside the European Union. It is not currently possible for us to interrogate your browser and obtain geographic location information in order to decide whether or not to prompt you to accept cookies.

News:

User Menu

Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl) (Read 1912213 times)

Jimboot

Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

jbignes5

Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

yfree

Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

chrisC

Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

MileHigh

Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

gotoluc

Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

markdansie

Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Magluvin

Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

yfree

Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Magluvin

Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Jimboot

Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

MileHigh

Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Johan_1955

Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

nilrehob

Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

shinz62

Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)