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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1841890 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #1230 on: May 31, 2014, 06:56:10 AM »
Note that their scope has both channels set to AC coupled.

This is probably the most misunderstood and misused feature of oscilloscopes. It is about as unfortunate as Franklin's choice of current direction naming. Had the early scope makers called it "Direct Coupling" and "Capacitor Coupling" instead of DC Coupling and AC coupling, we would be a lot better off.

AC coupling moves the Average value of the waveform down, or up, to the channel's baseline setting. This pretty much destroys most math done on the traces, except for Peak-to-Peak, which obviously doesn't change when you offset a waveform. But it means the positive and negative _peak_ values themselves are most likely wrong. For a pure AC waveform that is actually symmetrical about the zero baseline, there isn't any difference. But as soon as there is any asymmetry, setting the scope to "ac coupled" removes information and gives false math computations.

I'm not saying this is a huge effect in the QEG measurements that would affect conclusions very much, but it does show some questionable scoposcopy and possible oscilloscope abuse on the part of the QEG folks.

That oscilloscope has full-on math capability, by the way. It can compute an instantaneous power curve and even the integral of that curve, live on screen. Why aren't these capabilities being used? I really hate to see an oscilloscope that costs more than my house is worth, being used like a toy etch-a-sketch, useful only for its pretty squiggles and its numbers in boxes.



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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #1231 on: May 31, 2014, 06:57:38 AM »
I think the spikes on the current trace are probably just hash from the drive motor.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #1232 on: May 31, 2014, 07:10:42 AM »
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That oscilloscope has full-on math capability, by the way. It can compute an instantaneous power curve and even the integral of that curve, live on screen. Why aren't these capabilities being used?

Another great question, and I can only think of the harshest answer: They (James) don't know how to do it.  For every person there is a "competency threshold" for things like this.  I can't go very far with Word or Excel, and I am mad at myself about that sometimes.  I can't "drive" Excel and Word and demonstrate real competency to someone that is proficient, I can only do decent "hunting and pecking" with it, and I often have to plunge into the "help" maze.  There is a chance that that's the case for The QEG world tour with respect to the DSO.

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P.S.:  Another clue or inference is that they only reported the cold filament resistance for the light bulb array in their report, essentially useless data.  Why didn't they report the hot filament resistance in their report also, something much more useful?  I know I am being picky, but it suggests a pattern.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #1233 on: May 31, 2014, 07:11:08 AM »
The waveform they are talking about is shown below.
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Compare their measured waveform for primary current with my simulated waveform (see http://www.overunity.com/14443/quantum-energy-generator-qeg-open-sourced-by-hopegirl/msg402334/#msg402334 ) for primary current and see the similarities (only look at the shape and forget about the axis numbers and their primary voltage and my secondary current, only look at the primary current in both graphs).

Similar "double" peak behavior. And no, you can't tune the double peak away by tuning the resonance. It will remain in place; but you can move it slightly left left and right relatively within the main peak.

@Milehigh, I am curious at what your explanation is for the "double" peak. Should be pretty easy to guess  ;)

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #1234 on: May 31, 2014, 07:18:51 AM »
PmgR:

Yes indeed, you can see the similarity in your simulation.

I actually don't want to offer up my explanation for the double peak right now.  I honestly think James should explain the double peak, not me.

If someone else explains it, so be it, but I would rather let the "experts" that had an over unity QEG running for 150 hours explain it to us.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #1235 on: May 31, 2014, 08:02:15 AM »
There are no experts and there is no documentation from James as to the ability to self run other that old videos from witts that are shown over and again. But I will bet that James is aware of the comments of this post and hopefully address them.   

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #1236 on: May 31, 2014, 09:10:24 AM »
There are no experts and there is no documentation from James as to the ability to self run other that old videos from witts that are shown over and again. But I will bet that James is aware of the comments of this post and hopefully address them.   
Rereading ScamGirl's blog posting she lists O U and self-looping as milestones.  Despite the terrible 17%  efficiency they calculated, ScamGirl continues to suggest that they achieved O U in Morocco and that self-looping is just around the corner.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #1237 on: May 31, 2014, 09:21:44 AM »
The LC cicuit consists of two main coils and a capacitor bank. The coils are 40 H each and the capacitors together make 125 nF.
That makes a resonance of 50 Hz !!  Of very high voltage also !

And high voltage RF talks to the quantum !  That combined with the mechanical vibration
makes the basis of this invention.

See also:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLK1VG8h2Wc&feature=em-uploademail

and the motherload of Free energy :

www.witts.ws/40kw-self-running-generator-qeg-help/   8) 8) 8)

Beware of the shills here like milehigh and farmhand ! Just skip their 'messages' !
They better stay out off my and our way !

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #1238 on: May 31, 2014, 09:49:01 AM »
HV RF talks to the quantum hey. I must ask then do you consider 50 Hz to be RF ? Cause it isn't.

No one is getting in anyone's way, you do your thing we'll do ours.

I advise you to choose your words carefully else you be considered making threats. But I don't scare easy, I have no reason to.

Not interested in Witts video's, won't even watch them. There is ample evidence that they are crooks. And using the Amish is disgusting - abhorrent.

Let me know where you will be operating in Australia and I may have some hope of getting in your way, otherwise it is impossible for me to do.

Anyway pay no attention to us skeptics just go ahead and show the accumulated energy output continuously, I'll bet my goulies you cannot do it.

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People have free will and if they want they can take your advice and skip my posts, won't bother me. I encourage people to read your posts to see how silly they read.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #1239 on: May 31, 2014, 11:04:24 AM »
Honestly,
I wish that Hope Girl had never been allow to become involved in anything to do with the QEG. She has only muddied the waters with her flamboyant publications on which she has no back ground or expertise. The QEG is only a tool that she is using in order to exploit and further her own agenda. If Hope Girl is actually the author and composer of the last youtube post ,she is getting very good at this. But other than a very detailed video by James and his measurement process I see little else of importance and simply discount the rest as Hope Girls attempt to steal the show. I look forward to more detailed videos from James in the future.   

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #1240 on: May 31, 2014, 11:17:16 AM »
I've not looked in for several days and I feel that I've missed out on the critique of the latest QEG report. It seems pretty much everything worthwhile has already been said.  I too am dumbfounded why Jamie can't see that the I and V wave forms are almost, if not exactly, 90 degrees out of phase with each other (as one would expect to see for an LC circuit). As for the current spikes (noise) I wonder if this is due to the mechanical vibration of the core laminations. As for the double peaks in the primary current waveform, I wonder if this is not due there there being two primary windings.


In the UK reactive power (VAr) is very often referred to as "imaginary" power. As everybody here knows reactive power is important for balancing the grid system for power distribution but it's not possible to do work with it (in the QEG you are simply parsing energy back and forth between the primary core inductance and the capacitor bank). I was not aware that is is possible to convert "imaginary" power into "real" power as Jamie says they are working on. Can someone please enlighten me. Is the "Transverter" a real or mythical device?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #1241 on: May 31, 2014, 11:17:58 AM »
The LC cicuit consists of two main coils and a capacitor bank. The coils are 40 H each and the capacitors together make 125 nF.
That makes a resonance of 50 Hz !!  Of very high voltage also !
40*125E-9 = 5E-6, 1/(2pi*5E-60.5 = 71.2Hz.
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And high voltage RF talks to the quantum !  That combined with the mechanical vibration
makes the basis of this invention.
Does it?  Then why are FTW's efficiencies so low?  Is the "quantum" stealing energy from their QEG and giving back waste heat?
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See also:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLK1VG8h2Wc&feature=em-uploademail
What in that video do you think is special?
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and the motherload of Free energy :

www.witts.ws/40kw-self-running-generator-qeg-help/   8) 8) 8)
Who has ever received a working free energy machine from WITTS?
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Beware of the shills here like milehigh and farmhand ! Just skip their 'messages' !
They better stay out off my and our way !
And if they do not, then what?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #1242 on: May 31, 2014, 11:25:53 AM »
The QEG failing to achieve over unity will have little affect on Hope Girl and her followers. As this can simply be attributed to all of the negative energy directed at them by the none believers. If only we had believed and focused all of our energy in a positive way the QEG surely would have achieved over unity. Ha!

James looked very tired in his last video. His hair looked pretty greasy also. Maybe he should take a shower and lay off for a few days,   

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #1243 on: May 31, 2014, 11:25:58 AM »
I've not looked in for several days and feel that I've missed out on the critique of the latest QEG report. It seems pretty much everything worthwhile has already been said.  I too am dumbfounded why Jamie can't see that the I and V wave forms are also if not exactly 90 degrees out of phase (as one would expect to see for an LC circuit). As for the current spikes (noise) I wonder if this is due to the mechanical vibration of the core laminations. As for the double peaks in the primary current waveform, I wonder if this is not due there there being two primary windings.


In the UK reactive power (VAr) is very often referred to as "imaginary" power. As everybody here knows reactive power is important for balancing the grid system for power distribution but it's not possible to do work with it (in the QEG you are simply parsing energy back and forth between the primary core inductance and the capacitor bank). I was not aware that is is possible to convert "imaginary" power into "real" power as Jamie says they are working on. Can someone please enlighten me. Is the "Transverter" a real or mythical device?
Imaginary and real power are distinct.  The energy that goes into a resonant tank can with appropriate circuitry later be delivered into a load.  Quasi resonant and fully resonant power converters exploit that fact.  I don't think that is what JR is talking about. 

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #1244 on: May 31, 2014, 11:59:17 AM »
Mark,
I thought those converters worked with square waves?