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Title: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: vasik041 on March 26, 2014, 06:56:48 PM
Has anybody heard about this ? Is it real thing or yet another fake under cover of Tesla’s patent ?
http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/03/25/qeg-open-sourced/

Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: MarkE on March 26, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
Resonant systems store a high percentage of energy input each cycle, and dissipate and/or deliver only a small percentage of the energy input each cycle.  They always lose at least a little bit.  They are never over unity.  They never even quite make unity, although some get pretty darn close.

I'm sorry but there is nothing to this QEG claim.
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: TinselKoala on March 26, 2014, 08:23:13 PM
If you look closely you will see that this is a religious cult-type activity, and that the design for the thing was "revealed" to the "inventor." They do not have any kind of working prototype, they only know that it will work because it has been divinely revealed. For these people to be soliciting funds in the way that they are doing should be illegal, or at least against the fund-raising site's TOS. It's delusional and cynically manipulative.
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: steeltpu on March 27, 2014, 05:42:58 AM
As usual the TROLLS jump right in on a highly promising device and ignore the inventors high level of credentials.  The TROLLS either assume they know it all or they are paid suppresion boys.   
 
They assume it won't work without even trying anything close to it.   Or maybe a quirk of their twisted personalities drives them to squash all hope.  Someone with a name like HopeGirl is probably too much for them.
 
Inventors credentials:
 
_____________________________
 
I am a career Electronics Engineer, who has been designing electronic controls for electric motors for 26+ years. I hold 9 patents and am knowledgeable in many different types of electric motor design. My father was a mechanical designer, so I have been immersed in the field of electro-mechanical motion from my youth. A large part of my work has been in designing rugged, efficient and manufacturable motors and electronic controls for consumer and industrial products. You may have seen some news out of the U.S. from Honda Motor Company about a new option available on the 2014 Odyssey Van - the world’s first built-in cabin vacuum cleaner system! I am the designer of the electronics and motor controls for this product. However, I have always had the eye and the heart of an inventor, and have questioned the established conventions in my field of design. I do not accept the conventional notion that wasted energy has to be a factor in every electrical machine, and so have developed the concept for the home Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) to disprove this theory (also shown by others in the video).
 
I have recently resigned from the position I’ve held for 26 years with an  internationally known motor manufacturer because I am confident in my ability to bring this technology to people and communities that need it. I am not in this for financial gain. Rather, it has become clear to me that this is my purpose on Earth at this time.
 
______________________________
 
These people are ALTRUISTIC and only asking for a very small amount to finish.  It may already be done.  They said in the March 25th video it would be started up in 4 days.   
 
THEY HAVE NOW RELEASED A DETAILED DOCUMENT WITH INSTRUCTIONS FOR BUILDING COMPLETE WITH PICTURES, DRAWINGS AND A PARTS LIST!!!!!!!   What more do you want Tinselhead??
 
They have the best overall plan for getting this out to the world and people who need it of anyone inventor or group I have seen.  They know all the issues with getting a free energy device into the hands of the public.  You look like a bunch of buzzards, vultures and flies waiting for their next meal.  Stinking trolls.
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: TinselKoala on March 27, 2014, 06:42:46 AM
So, then, Steel PU, how much money did YOU give them?

You can believe what I tell you or not, that's up to you, but I'll make this prediction here and now: In one year, nobody will be powering anything with anything that these people are selling.

Why don't you ask the career Electronics Engineer what he paid for his household electricity for the past six months. Oh.... he doesn't yet have a working prototype, does he. Well. I think even you can probably "Do that math".
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: MarkE on March 27, 2014, 07:06:03 AM
As usual the TROLLS jump right in on a highly promising device and ignore the inventors high level of credentials.  The TROLLS either assume they know it all or they are paid suppresion boys.   
 
They assume it won't work without even trying anything close to it.   Or maybe a quirk of their twisted personalities drives them to squash all hope.  Someone with a name like HopeGirl is probably too much for them.
 
Inventors credentials:
 
_____________________________
 
I am a career Electronics Engineer, who has been designing electronic controls for electric motors for 26+ years. I hold 9 patents and am knowledgeable in many different types of electric motor design. My father was a mechanical designer, so I have been immersed in the field of electro-mechanical motion from my youth. A large part of my work has been in designing rugged, efficient and manufacturable motors and electronic controls for consumer and industrial products. You may have seen some news out of the U.S. from Honda Motor Company about a new option available on the 2014 Odyssey Van - the world’s first built-in cabin vacuum cleaner system! I am the designer of the electronics and motor controls for this product. However, I have always had the eye and the heart of an inventor, and have questioned the established conventions in my field of design. I do not accept the conventional notion that wasted energy has to be a factor in every electrical machine, and so have developed the concept for the home Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) to disprove this theory (also shown by others in the video).
 
I have recently resigned from the position I’ve held for 26 years with an  internationally known motor manufacturer because I am confident in my ability to bring this technology to people and communities that need it. I am not in this for financial gain. Rather, it has become clear to me that this is my purpose on Earth at this time.
 
______________________________
 
These people are ALTRUISTIC and only asking for a very small amount to finish.  It may already be done.  They said in the March 25th video it would be started up in 4 days.   
 
THEY HAVE NOW RELEASED A DETAILED DOCUMENT WITH INSTRUCTIONS FOR BUILDING COMPLETE WITH PICTURES, DRAWINGS AND A PARTS LIST!!!!!!!   What more do you want Tinselhead??
 
They have the best overall plan for getting this out to the world and people who need it of anyone inventor or group I have seen.  They know all the issues with getting a free energy device into the hands of the public.  You look like a bunch of buzzards, vultures and flies waiting for their next meal.  Stinking trolls.
Reality trumps motives.  Who can show one that works?
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: Tseak on March 27, 2014, 09:49:05 AM
Quote
THEY HAVE NOW RELEASED A DETAILED DOCUMENT WITH INSTRUCTIONS FOR BUILDING COMPLETE WITH PICTURES, DRAWINGS AND A PARTS LIST!!!!!!!   What more do you want Tinselhead??

There are more holes in this design than in a Swiss cheese. The photos don't correspond to the parts list which in turn does not correspond to the schematic. This  "electronic engineer"  is driving a dc motor from unrectified ac mains. That'll work!  Where is the working prototype?  All that is shown is components.
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: framoro on March 27, 2014, 10:05:40 AM

link to download the entire project ! ! !...
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: framoro on March 27, 2014, 10:14:11 AM
https://mega.co.nz/#!hAEGFA7B!yepGF-Dnb3Eml-nwWN-g3jCvWKzvUgI9x937Q2p96Xg
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: steeltpu on March 27, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
So, then, Steel PU, how much money did YOU give them?

You can believe what I tell you or not, that's up to you, but I'll make this prediction here and now: In one year, nobody will be powering anything with anything that these people are selling.

Why don't you ask the career Electronics Engineer what he paid for his household electricity for the past six months. Oh.... he doesn't yet have a working prototype, does he. Well. I think even you can probably "Do that math".


You apparently missed this   "FTW was able to donate a QEG to the village of Aouchtam in Morocco. The QEG will run a well and supply over 300 people with running water! In addition, the village will be creating their own QEG CICU to manufacture and distribute QEG’s to all of North Africa!"

They already built one and have donated it or did you choose to ignore that?
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: TinselKoala on March 28, 2014, 07:18:15 AM

You apparently missed this   "FTW was able to donate a QEG to the village of Aouchtam in Morocco. The QEG will run a well and supply over 300 people with running water! In addition, the village will be creating their own QEG CICU to manufacture and distribute QEG’s to all of North Africa!"

They already built one and have donated it or did you choose to ignore that?

I choose to note that there is NO EVIDENCE that that statement is true, nor is there any evidence that the words "WILL RUN" and "WILL BE CREATING" are describing anything that is happening NOW.

By the way, I've donated my last three working antigravity machines to NASA and Boeing and they will be running them in a test program and will start to manufacture a new series of passenger-carrying flying saucers to replace the Airbus A380, to make air travel affordable for all.

Note that you have just as much evidence for my statement, as you do for Thrapp/WITTS/Whatevergirl's claims.

Feel free to prove me wrong, either by providing evidence that their claim is true.... or that mine isn't.


And do we really need FOUR threads on the same topic? 
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: MenofFather on March 28, 2014, 08:33:20 AM
Has anybody heard about this ? Is it real thing or yet another fake under cover of Tesla’s patent ?
http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/03/25/qeg-open-sourced/ (http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/03/25/qeg-open-sourced/)
Hear.
I think, that here probarly, not fake.
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: MenofFather on March 28, 2014, 08:35:00 AM
If you look closely you will see that this is a religious cult-type activity, and that the design for the thing was "revealed" to the "inventor." They do not have any kind of working prototype, they only know that it will work because it has been divinely revealed. For these people to be soliciting funds in the way that they are doing should be illegal, or at least against the fund-raising site's TOS. It's delusional and cynically manipulative.
You shore, that they have not working prototipe? They say, that they not have working prototipe?
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: tim123 on March 28, 2014, 10:07:30 AM
It looks to me like 'HopeGirl' and the 'QEG' is a joke - at the expense of the credulous.
http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/

 1) Obviously the plans are total BS
 2) Her stage name: 'Hope Moore'.
 3) The 'Fix the World' foundation. 'Fix' means many things - not all good.
 4) She's wearing a *tin-foil hat* in one of the pics
 5) Blatant illuminati symbolism (http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2013/12/12/the-peoples-fund-to-change-the-planet-goes-live-today/)

They're just taking the mickey...
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: TinselKoala on March 28, 2014, 12:29:13 PM
Come on, people. This is an offshoot of Timothy Thrapp's WITTS. How many "working prototypes" has Thrapp claimed and even "demonstrated" over the years on YouTube and in his websites?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=witts+ministries&sm=1 (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=witts+ministries&sm=1)


http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2013/03/08/fix-the-world-solutions-quantum-energy-from-world-improvement-through-the-spirit-witts/ (http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2013/03/08/fix-the-world-solutions-quantum-energy-from-world-improvement-through-the-spirit-witts/)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk623noUevc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk623noUevc)
(note the date of that video)

Don't be a fish!
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: TinselKoala on March 28, 2014, 12:31:44 PM
You shore, that they have not working prototipe? They say, that they not have working prototipe?
No, they say they DO have a working prototype. Sure, it turns. Does it power itself? No, it does not. Does it produce excess power over and above that which it takes to run it? No, it does not. Look at WITTS for a bunch of similar claims, and then look around for anyone who can confirm them.

Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: Google on March 28, 2014, 07:48:34 PM
Dear all,

Means for increasing the intensity of electrical oscillations.

http://www.google.com/patents/US685012

In the above patent tesla describes :

It is evident from the above that the greater the number of the freely-vibrating circuits which alternately receive and transmit energy from one to another the greater, relatively, will be the gain secured by applying my invention.

Was he indicating towards energy amplification through resonance ? What do you think ?

Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: MarkE on March 28, 2014, 09:17:54 PM
Dear all,

Means for increasing the intensity of electrical oscillations.

http://www.google.com/patents/US685012

In the above patent tesla describes :

It is evident from the above that the greater the number of the freely-vibrating circuits which alternately receive and transmit energy from one to another the greater, relatively, will be the gain secured by applying my invention.

Was he indicating towards energy amplification through resonance ? What do you think ?
Resonant networks store a large portion of the externally applied energy each cycle.  All resonant networks dissipate a portion of the externally applied energy cycle by cycle.  High Q networks are capable of accumulating large amounts of externally applied energy over many cycles.
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 01:30:59 AM
Resonant networks store a large portion of the externally applied energy each cycle.  All resonant networks dissipate a portion of the externally applied energy cycle by cycle.  High Q networks are capable of accumulating large amounts of externally applied energy over many cycles.

So, there is no overunity described covertly / overtly by Tesla in this patent. Right ?

But resonant amplification as in soundwaves, we do observe that amplitude of the wave rises many times the amplitude of the source wave. Why does that happen Sir ? And that happens alongside of constant energy loss by both source and target resonant object by means of converting it into louder sound energy. Why will any amplification take place AT ALL, rather attaching a target to a source should dampen the source and kill the soundwaves amplitude of the source.

Instead of doing that the target resonant object amplifies the sound waves ????

Where is the extra energy coming from for amplification ??????

Best,

Best,
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: gauschor on March 29, 2014, 10:50:30 AM
Rule #1: if it's from WITTS it's a scam.

2) Her stage name: 'Hope Moore'.

The non existing fake girl probably hopes for moore (money).

On a sidenote: the whole website looks like an advertisement to donate money. Seriously there is nothing else on it. Did anyone check the old news? It's all about "we will change the world", "we will do salvation", "it shall be done"... well that was 2 years ago. A real inventor does not proclaim for ongoing years, but delivers. I can see nothing delivered but scraps of paper put together like a mosaic of pictures from various sources of the internet.
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: vasik041 on March 29, 2014, 04:56:51 PM
Now somebody created a forum about QEG (http://theqeg.freeforums.org/)

How sad if all these just another fake  :(



Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: markdansie on March 30, 2014, 12:45:06 PM
you can get the history here
http://revolution-green.com/qeg-part-2/
Kind Regards
Mark
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: markdansie on March 30, 2014, 12:47:47 PM
No, they say they DO have a working prototype. Sure, it turns. Does it power itself? No, it does not. Does it produce excess power over and above that which it takes to run it? No, it does not. Look at WITTS for a bunch of similar claims, and then look around for anyone who can confirm them.


You are as usual 100% correct
I updated the article and included your comments  PS send me your email address again I lost my address book in a crash
http://revolution-green.com/qeg-part-2/


Many
Thanks Mark
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: ARMCORTEX on April 04, 2014, 02:42:04 AM
It might work, assuming the inventor's credentials are true, this is very humiliating behavior otherwise for a master engineer like robitaille.

The goal of the motor is just to rotate the magnet to the right speed. The argument that ''cannot be true since dc motor is fed by ac'' is very pathetic.






Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: mscoffman on April 04, 2014, 08:47:29 PM
It might work, assuming the inventor's credentials are true, this is very humiliating behavior otherwise for a master engineer like robitaille.

The goal of the motor is just to rotate the magnet to the right speed. The argument that ''cannot be true since dc motor is fed by ac'' is very pathetic.


I can't believe that any engineer would accede to having their names linked to such an unfinished schematic/parts list.
Showing two motor control schemes when only one is needed/works. Spec'd incorrectly both ways. Using
a motor without a part number linked to a motor rebuilding service. This suggests something that doesn't
work, because they can keep a real motor manufacture out of the fingerpointing fray, if the device doesn't work.

:S:MarkSCoffman
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: TinselKoala on April 04, 2014, 11:13:22 PM
These folks are religiously motivated and they claim, buried in the rhetoric, that the design was Revealed to the engineer, or channeled in a dream or something like that. Therefore they believe and know that it _will_ work, because God and his prophet Thrapp told them so. The fact that it _doesn't_ work as designed/planned/revealed is just a matter of getting the magnets properly up to speed, or using the right capacitors, or winding the coil widdershins instead of hickorydock. Or something. There will always be something keeping it from "self-running"... even the thought forms of the builder can prevent it from running, according to WhateverGirl.
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: ourbobby on May 01, 2014, 02:37:00 PM
I reckon that if you are trying to show a 10:1 ratio of improvement of the input power, wouldn't it be better to use a few more light globes? I mean, really, such enthusiasm for five globes. One born every minute!!
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: vasik041 on May 01, 2014, 04:30:33 PM
They promised publish power measurements...let's wait and see what they actually got there :-)

Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: Mr Summitville on April 17, 2017, 05:15:53 AM
OK, it has been three years. What is the verdict?
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: TinselKoala on April 17, 2017, 06:30:26 AM
The verdict is that nobody following the directions of the QEG team has ever produced a single Joule of extra energy, nor have they achieved self-running, even after spending thousands of dollars and countless hours of tuning, rewinding, changing aerial length, etc. Most of the QEG machines are functioning well-- as doorstops, boat anchors, and bones of contention with SWMBOs.
 
They have dropped below the radar of the "Open Source" world and have opened some subscription-only "services" in order to keep the cash flowing in. The last time I saw photos or videos of Her and Him, they both looked sick, especially Him. And I guess the Mediterranean diet must not agree with Her; probably misses her daily supersized Big Mac meal.
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: AlienGrey on April 17, 2017, 06:54:54 AM
These folks are religiously motivated and they claim, buried in the rhetoric, that the design was Revealed to the engineer, or channeled in a dream or something like that. Therefore they believe and know that it _will_ work, because God and his prophet Thrapp told them so. The fact that it _doesn't_ work as designed/planned/revealed is just a matter of getting the magnets properly up to speed, or using the right capacitors, or winding the coil widdershins instead of hickory dock. Or something. There will always be something keeping it from "self-running"... even the thought forms of the builder can prevent it from running, according to WhateverGirl.
When will people realise the word 'GOD' Gold Oil Drugs' ;) is actually a demonic being in the original scriptures 'Aromaic Hebrew' doctoring about 50 AD 'Gadre'el' pronounced 'Godre'el' (as I can't print character 'a' with it's two dots on top)is actually ' Satans' real name, this means the ones who program and control you have got you worshiping Satan! wake up! and get the real facts before you start an argument.
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: Mr Summitville on April 17, 2017, 04:26:20 PM
The verdict is that nobody following the directions of the QEG team has ever produced a single Joule of extra energy, nor have they achieved self-running, even after spending thousands of dollars and countless hours of tuning, rewinding, changing aerial length, etc. Most of the QEG machines are functioning well-- as doorstops, boat anchors, and bones of contention with SWMBOs.
 
They have dropped below the radar of the "Open Source" world and have opened some subscription-only "services" in order to keep the cash flowing in. The last time I saw photos or videos of Her and Him, they both looked sick, especially Him. And I guess the Mediterranean diet must not agree with Her; probably misses her daily supersized Big Mac meal.
As Jamie and Adam used to say, 'The QED is BUSTED"

Too many threads on this website never state any Final Conclusion.

It would be really great if the TITLE of each & every thread had a suffix of ...
a) "= OPEN"
b) "= BUSTED"
c) "= CONFIRMED"

There are many "OPEN" threads.
There are many "BUSTED" threads.
Is there one "CONFIRMED" thread?
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: AlienGrey on April 17, 2017, 07:01:53 PM
As Jamie and Adam used to say, 'The QED is BUSTED"

Too many threads on this website never state any Final Conclusion.

It would be really great if the TITLE of each & every thread had a suffix of ...
a) "= OPEN"
b) "= BUSTED"
c) "= CONFIRMED"

There are many "OPEN" threads.
There are many "BUSTED" threads.
Is there one "CONFIRMED" thread?
Hi what is this open busted and confirmed, on about ) In the English or perhaps German please, Have you got a device you want to share with us perhaps?
Regards AG
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: Mr Summitville on April 17, 2017, 07:18:23 PM
Hi what is this open busted and confirmed, on about ) In the English or perhaps German please, Have you got a device you want to share with us perhaps?
Regards AG
Jamie & Adam are from a very popular TV science show called Mythbusters ( 15 seasons ).
At the end of every show they would state whether the myth was "CONFIRMED" or "BUSTED", ie a result.
All threads could start as status "OPEN", ie unknown.
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: AlienGrey on April 18, 2017, 07:57:16 AM
Jamie & Adam are from a very popular TV science show called Mythbusters ( 15 seasons ).
At the end of every show they would state whether the myth was "CONFIRMED" or "BUSTED", ie a result.
All threads could start as status "OPEN", ie unknown.
I just watched the 'one on free energy'  :'( :'( :'( What an utter 'sham' THEY GOT BUSTED' by the fans, IT WAS FIXED' end of series!

PS, if 'you yourself, declared you had such a device : Wouldn't 'you' end up with 20,000,000 people 'banging' on your door for one ?????????????????????????????????????????????
AG
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: memoryman on April 19, 2017, 12:09:40 AM
Mythbusters was entertainment, not science.
Title: Re: anyone heard about QEG ?
Post by: George F on December 19, 2017, 09:43:19 PM
So no one has been able to make one of these? And this is a replica of the WITTS 40kw generator, which is obviously not legit. I tried contacting them via youtube some years back with some common questions and was called a "fckn moron, idiot" amongst other names for, what I thought, were common sense questions (no trolling at all). Obviously they're hostile and angry people and don't like being questioned.