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Author Topic: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works  (Read 60693 times)

Shokac

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2014, 07:26:37 PM »
Hi All,

In the video he mentions his first prototype which is briefly shown @ 2:27. I think this would give a better idea of pulley ratio since it looks like all bike rims are being used.

These are just estimates on the bike wheels from standard sizes which they seem closest too.

Flywheel - 26" diameter
To Alternator - 20" diameter
The small pulleys look to be 1-2" diameter
Drive Motor - 16-18" looks a little smaller than the 20" diameter

Windshield wiper motor is between 30-100rpm depending on voltage, it has high torque since it's wound almost like a winch motor.

Let's go with 40rpm as an example

40rpm @ 18" wheel to 2" pulley = 40*(18/2) = 360 rpm on flywheel shaft
360rpm @ 20" wheel to 2" pulley on alternator = 360*(20/2) = 3600rpm

Please correct if you see a mistake.

Weight has on the other side.
Drive Motor - is from old waschmaschine fi 310 or 12,2"


TinselKoala

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2014, 08:14:04 PM »
Patent:

http://www.google.com/patents/WO2013150392A2?cl=en

NOT PATENT.

Patent APPLICATION.


Publication number
WO2013150392 A2

Publication type Application
Application
number
PCT/IB2013/050910

TinselKoala

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2014, 08:19:04 PM »

He said it can ran for as long as batterys life - a few years
Why does it need a battery at all, after starting?

Please explain this, before measuring wheels and calculating belt lengths. Require a demonstration of the device operating without the battery. If this cannot be done.... please give some coherent explanation why not. I am quite certain that I or any other competent electrician could make the device self-charge a capacitor bank or use some other system to substitute for the battery -- IF it was actually making any excess energy at all.


bboj

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2014, 09:25:52 PM »
Why does it need a battery at all, after starting?

Please explain this, before measuring wheels and calculating belt lengths. Require a demonstration of the device operating without the battery. If this cannot be done.... please give some coherent explanation why not. I am quite certain that I or any other competent electrician could make the device self-charge a capacitor bank or use some other system to substitute for the battery -- IF it was actually making any excess energy at all.

I just translated what the inventor said in the video.

He said that the battery must be connected non stop so the circuit is not interrupted. He also said that 20 pct of flywheel energy goes to maintain the flywheel movement and battery recharge and 80 pct is used to power different loads. He also said that the battery is needed only to start the device.

That is all. I can not say if it works and if it does I do not know how for sure.


TinselKoala

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2014, 05:16:52 PM »
I see. SO
The battery is only needed to start the device.....
but...
The battery must remain connected non stop so the circuit is not interrupted.

Guess what.... the battery in my car is only needed to start the car....
AND...
Since it is only needed to start the car..... it can be removed once the car is started, because the car DOES NOT RUN ON THE BATTERY.


These "qmogens" are just bait. Don't be a fish.

bboj

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2014, 05:41:27 PM »
I never thought it works. I just helped with translation.
It really would be too good.

Paul-R

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2014, 05:56:22 PM »

The battery must remain connected non stop so the circuit is not interrupted.

I'm not sure about this one, but in general, this principle can be true.

Either way, the acid test will be whether the battery's state of charge has increased or decreased after the gear has been running overnight.

Shokac

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2014, 06:16:04 PM »
I see. SO
The battery is only needed to start the device.....
but...
The battery must remain connected non stop so the circuit is not interrupted.

Guess what.... the battery in my car is only needed to start the car....
AND...
Since it is only needed to start the car..... it can be removed once the car is started, because the car DOES NOT RUN ON THE BATTERY.


These "qmogens" are just bait. Don't be a fish.


Why constantly attacking this thread?

 This device works like it or not!

Paul-R

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2014, 06:24:12 PM »

Why constantly attacking this thread?

 This device works like it or not!
You may or may not be right. But some straighforward, old fashioned, hard evidence would be most attractive.

TheCell

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2014, 06:49:52 PM »
There have been patents issued in Belgium, which include at least a motor / generator and a battery.
Now obviously the battery is not drained down, but it is needed for function.
What happens there; this forum provides no means to solve this riddle.
Why is the patent granted, if it where nonsense?
If I were the person, to sign this I would refuse to sign it , unless they would show me that a load would be powered by the device for a much longer time , the battery alone would be able to.
But it has been signed. Several times.
(One pdf is not readable by my Adobe Reader)

gyulasun

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2014, 08:00:54 PM »
Hi TheCell,

IT is the first PDF file (BE438189A) which does not open for me either,  so I have downloaded it from Espacenet, see attached.

You asked:   "Why is a patent granted if it were nonsense?"

Probably this is different from country to country but at many places there have been no requirement to demonstrate a working device, they simply file an "intellectual property".   And whatever BS an application may be, it brings income to the patent offices...  They readily sign quasi any weird idea.
Saying these, I do not suggest these ideas are not able to produce extra output... Just telling what you think is not always the case with granted patents.

Gyula

Rafael Ti

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2014, 08:09:24 AM »
Hi guys!
I think there must be something special in the flywheels  8) :
http://www.resonantfractals.org/Magnetism/Flywheel.htm

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2014, 08:23:13 AM »
I see. SO
The battery is only needed to start the device.....
but...
The battery must remain connected non stop so the circuit is not interrupted.

Guess what.... the battery in my car is only needed to start the car....
AND...
Since it is only needed to start the car..... it can be removed once the car is started, because the car DOES NOT RUN ON THE BATTERY.


These "qmogens" are just bait. Don't be a fish.


It is not baloney. 40 million mechanics and Hot Rodders know it is true.

One time a crook stole the battery out of my old 68 Dodge. I jump started from my sister's car and drove, with no battery, after dark with my lights working OK, several miles to the battery store to get a replacement.

Might not work with a Tesla.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2014, 01:35:49 PM »
I think it could work.
The reason would be the gears, do you see them?
The motor's shaft is perpendicular to the wheel's shaft. It took my attention.

sterlinga

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2014, 12:06:42 AM »
A couple of days ago we posted this news bullet:


 Featured: Electromagnetic > QMoGen >
Krstan Pejic QMoGen Featured on Serbian TV - Here's a QMoGen out of Serbia that has a provisional PCT patent filed. It was featured on a local TV station. Allegedly capable of 1.5 kW continuous output of power. (PESWiki; April 15, 2014)



 On April 16, 2014 4:58 AM MDT (GMT-6), Zoran Milan Ilitz from Serbia wrote:
 
  Subject: About Krstan Pejic
 
 
  Hey Sterling,
  Krstan Pejić (pronounced as Pay-ee-tzj) is living some 50 km from me.
  Briefly: A reputable inventor, 18 years of research on this patent. Several awards from several serious innovation fairs (Serbia, Romania, Hungaria, Montenegro). First patented in Montenegro (which is an independent country since 2006 and markets herself as being an ecological country). There is a team of people and a company, they had a lawyer who does the legal work.
  First plan is to get patents in 124 countries (news from 3 years ago); after that they will accept investors (of which they have plenty offers), but will keep 51% of the rights to avoid the buy-outs and shutting off.
  Google gives 1000 references on Krstan. He has several other inventions as well, but unrelated to energy.
  Short description: a 12 V battery powers the device, which then generates usable power and some surplus to refill the battery on the fly. The output managed to power the lights in a local pub, plus a drill and a grinder.
  They claim they can make their device with power outputs of 1 kW to 2 MW.
  I found the phone and address, but not an e-mail.
  Cheers, Zoran