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Author Topic: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.  (Read 969573 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1380 on: April 05, 2015, 11:23:47 PM »
@Itsu: yes, your circuit is laid out slightly differently than the PC template showed, but I can tell by the waveforms that it is mostly acting the same way.

When you remove the battery and the lights go out... then you switch the switch and you get a single short bright pulse in the LEDs, yes?

But I'm wondering about your turn count. Why so many?

The yellow image below is my PCB template. I taped a piece of paper to the monitor with the image of the template from the original posting, and marked the holes, then I sketched in the traces, then I mapped the components from the schematic over to the template. Then I taped this template to the foil side of some PCB material and prick-marked the hole locations. Then I took the paper off and drilled the holes with a #58 drill bit on the drill press. Then I drew in the traces on the copper with an ordinary black Sharpie marker. Then I etched the board with ferric chloride solution. It took about an hour to make the board, from start to finish.
This was a lot easier than wiring by hand, I think, and I'm thankful that the original template was posted.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1380 on: April 05, 2015, 11:23:47 PM »

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1381 on: April 05, 2015, 11:26:47 PM »
Itsu is the Break down voltage 32 volt ?

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1382 on: April 05, 2015, 11:34:41 PM »
@Itsu:
Also, I am using 600pF for C2; I experimented to get this value in order to get rid of the "double peaks" within each main pulsation of the chip. The peaks are caused by the resonant ringing of the primary coil. I think that little spike on your yellow trace is the start of a second cycle of this ringing in your circuit. You might try increasing the C2 value a little bit to see if that makes that little spike go away and gives you a waveform that looks more like that in Lari-Man's video.

I don't know about the diac... I'm using a UF4001 rectifier diode there. The 220 uF capacitor I'm using is only rated 16 volts, and as you can see at your Testpoint on the other side of this diode (the junction of the Anode side of the third LED and of the diode) , the voltage gets pretty high, or rather low (negative) and this diode keeps that negative trough out of the capacitor. On the capacitor side of the diode I see only a straight DC voltage that is well below the 16V rating of my capacitor.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1382 on: April 05, 2015, 11:34:41 PM »
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1383 on: April 06, 2015, 12:00:16 AM »
I prefer to deal in reality, not fantasy.
When you can produce a Komarov etheric lantern that runs itself in "loop mode" I will be happy to evaluate it for you.

You haven't even watched the videos but you have already made own "fantasy theory".
Funny approch. 8)

BTW if you already have Tesla Transformer you don't need a Katcher to take of power with N.Yablokov assymetirc  capacitor.

Take it or leave it - you are on the own.  :o

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1384 on: April 06, 2015, 12:04:51 AM »
objekt013b - one of Magic words is "GAP" 8)

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1384 on: April 06, 2015, 12:04:51 AM »
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1385 on: April 06, 2015, 12:26:35 AM »
objekt013b - one of Magic words is "GAP" 8)

The other magic word is:  Fantasy.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1386 on: April 06, 2015, 12:39:58 AM »
Hello everyone,

I have spotted the fake just minutes into watching the original video from Lari as from the link as posted by Tinsekoala.

I have even put a comment "hint" in comment just beneath Lari's own comment "Fake".

Sometimes you guys do make my laugh.But the fun stops here since it's Monday blues over here. :D :D

Hey i am doing this so that you guys won't waste a single seconds in this "Russian version of April fool joke" which strangely seems convincing to many.

No further comment to add.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1386 on: April 06, 2015, 12:39:58 AM »
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1387 on: April 06, 2015, 12:58:10 AM »
@Itsu: yes, your circuit is laid out slightly differently than the PC template showed, but I can tell by the waveforms that it is mostly acting the same way.

When you remove the battery and the lights go out... then you switch the switch and you get a single short bright pulse in the LEDs, yes?


But I'm wondering about your turn count. Why so many?


The yellow image below is my PCB template. I taped a piece of paper to the monitor with the image of the template from the original posting, and marked the holes, then I sketched in the traces, then I mapped the components from the schematic over to the template. Then I taped this template to the foil side of some PCB material and prick-marked the hole locations. Then I took the paper off and drilled the holes with a #58 drill bit on the drill press. Then I drew in the traces on the copper with an ordinary black Sharpie marker. Then I etched the board with ferric chloride solution. It took about an hour to make the board, from start to finish.
This was a lot easier than wiring by hand, I think, and I'm thankful that the original template was posted.

yes, when i switch the switch, i get a single short bright pulse in the LEDs

I had a length of Litz wire which i used as primary, but it is to long for 28 turns and i did not want to cut it up yet, so therefor i used this length which turned out to be 50 turns.

I will look into the PCB making, i do not have the means right now.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1388 on: April 06, 2015, 12:59:47 AM »
Itsu is the Break down voltage 32 volt ?

Hi Ed,  you mean the break down voltage of the diac?   It says C044,  so probably 44V?

Regards Itsu

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1388 on: April 06, 2015, 12:59:47 AM »
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1389 on: April 06, 2015, 02:13:36 AM »
EnJoyKin
are these the Movies that Tinsel didn't watch??
[they won't play for me??]

https://yadi.sk/i/tAW1jRzofGxiH
https://yadi.sk/i/fGeje8FzfGxgm
https://yadi.sk/i/BbzDwBhxfGxgj



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Also you said
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BTW if you already have Tesla Transformer you don't need a Katcher to take of power with N.Yablokov assymetirc  capacitor.

EnJoyKin

Tinsel has more Tesla transformers than Tesla had  :o

so he needs one of these>>>N.Yablokov assymetirc  capacitor.

and some of this >>>>>      objekt013b - one of Magic words is "GAP" 8)

some times its not good to be ""you are on the own. ""
when so close to the cigar...

respectfully
Chet

PS
do you need to smash up old Russian Tv's for this too >> N.Yablokov assymetirc  capacitor
or is this available to build/purchase elsewhere ?
These we have plenty of >> Gaps ,sometimes its hard to know where to put them
and other particulars ??

you seem like a nice man [not an insult =]



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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1390 on: April 06, 2015, 03:53:36 AM »
Talking about LED flashlights, they can be very efficient when are in looped mode.
For example, lasersaber also was experimenting with them and he came up with one which draws micro-amps to light up LED - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7D_9Ill2wM with circuit in http://laserhacker.com/?p=420
Also no one is going to make 15+ hours video showing how long they run after initial pulse but these circuits can find their use even if they do not run for ages... ;)


Cheers!

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1390 on: April 06, 2015, 03:53:36 AM »
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1391 on: April 06, 2015, 11:32:59 AM »
@Itsu:
Also, I am using 600pF for C2; I experimented to get this value in order to get rid of the "double peaks" within each main pulsation of the chip. The peaks are caused by the resonant ringing of the primary coil. I think that little spike on your yellow trace is the start of a second cycle of this ringing in your circuit. You might try increasing the C2 value a little bit to see if that makes that little spike go away and gives you a waveform that looks more like that in Lari-Man's video.

I don't know about the diac... I'm using a UF4001 rectifier diode there. The 220 uF capacitor I'm using is only rated 16 volts, and as you can see at your Testpoint on the other side of this diode (the junction of the Anode side of the third LED and of the diode) , the voltage gets pretty high, or rather low (negative) and this diode keeps that negative trough out of the capacitor. On the capacitor side of the diode I see only a straight DC voltage that is well below the 16V rating of my capacitor.

Ok,  i added another 220pF to C2, but still a small second peak was visible.
After adding another 470pF its gone, so i now have about 1nF for C2.
The frequency increased to 77KHz.

Regards itsu

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1392 on: April 06, 2015, 11:55:02 AM »
You haven't even watched the videos but you have already made own "fantasy theory".
Funny approch. 8)

BTW if you already have Tesla Transformer you don't need a Katcher to take of power with N.Yablokov assymetirc  capacitor.

Take it or leave it - you are on the own.  :o

I just love the way people try to tell me what to do and how to do it... when they haven't presented any work of their own that supports their contentions.... while I actually do show my work and my results clearly and (mostly) fully explained.

My theories are not fantasy, they are supported by my own experiments, demonstrations and hundreds of years of experimentation and research by real scientists.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1393 on: April 06, 2015, 12:02:50 PM »
Changing the diac for an 1n4148 diode does not change the signals.
Playing with the gap (piece of paper) introduces oscillations inbetween the pulses (yellow trace)

Regards Itsu

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1394 on: April 06, 2015, 12:28:41 PM »
Hello everyone,

I have spotted the fake just minutes into watching the original video from Lari as from the link as posted by Tinsekoala.

I have even put a comment "hint" in comment just beneath Lari's own comment "Fake".

Sometimes you guys do make my laugh.But the fun stops here since it's Monday blues over here. :D :D

Hey i am doing this so that you guys won't waste a single seconds in this "Russian version of April fool joke" which strangely seems convincing to many.

No further comment to add.

There is a slight difference in the layout of his circuit board, compared to the template which I used to make my board. The routing of the + and - power input leads are slightly different, but electrically the same I think.  The result is that his + and - input wires are reversed and are like Itsu's, with + on the right side viewed from the top. Mine follows the template posted by Enjoykin, and so the + is on the left side when viewed from the top.

I'm afraid I don't see what else you might be seeing on the Lari Man circuit board. Please enlighten us!  (no pun intended...)    ;)

 

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