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Author Topic: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.  (Read 1269724 times)

havuhung

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1155 on: May 04, 2014, 08:04:57 PM »
Hi All,
Oh, it's simple.        ;D

Thanks a lot.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1156 on: May 05, 2014, 04:30:54 AM »
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SOMEONE CHECKING THIS CIRCUIT?

hre_1972

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1157 on: May 05, 2014, 04:36:06 AM »
AND THIS ONE 2? ?  ?

MenofFather

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1158 on: May 05, 2014, 07:43:15 AM »
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SOMEONE CHECKING THIS CIRCUIT?
I this check, but without synchronisation.
"[size=78%]AND THIS ONE 2? ?  ?"[/size]
[size=78%]This seems Grumage check.[/size]

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1159 on: May 05, 2014, 10:36:04 AM »
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SOMEONE CHECKING THIS CIRCUIT?


The shema no good!

The bulb will not light because the bifilar coil outputs voltage and signal  outputs in-phase   same  ..  is no tension distinction (blue line) 

NickZ

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1160 on: May 05, 2014, 05:06:28 PM »
  All:
   It looks like none of the Akula schematics are correct, and we are just wasting time to replicate them. However, if we find the right way of doing it, or the correct approach, we may be able to get somewhere with this.  Until one of us is able to obtain some replicable results, we are all just spinning our wheels. 

TinselKoala

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1161 on: May 05, 2014, 05:42:16 PM »
  All:
   It looks like none of the Akula schematics are correct, and we are just wasting time to replicate them. However, if we find the right way of doing it, or the correct approach, we may be able to get somewhere with this.  Until one of us is able to obtain some replicable results, we are all just spinning our wheels.
I am obtaining perfectly replicable results in the 3V flashilight thread, using one of Akula's published schematics with a minor correction, and it makes the same scope signals that he has shown from that circuit. Itsu is also converging on replicating the instrumental measurements using the corrected published circuit.

If you are wanting to replicate the LEDs running without external power, that's not so hard either, but you have to realize Akula isn't doing it the way he says he is.

Still to be explained by the believers is this: How can a circuit produce the _same_ instrumental measurements using the _same_ external component values, if there is something wrong or special about the core itself?

Any differences in characteristics of the core -- real electrical characteristics like permeability, B-H hysteresis, conductivity, and so on .... would make the circuit behave differently. But the only difference is that Akula's lights stay on -- when he's at home, not in Germany.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1162 on: May 05, 2014, 06:47:05 PM »
I am obtaining perfectly replicable results in the 3V flashilight thread, using one of Akula's published schematics with a minor correction, and it makes the same scope signals that he has shown from that circuit. Itsu is also converging on replicating the instrumental measurements using the corrected published circuit.

If you are wanting to replicate the LEDs running without external power, that's not so hard either, but you have to realize Akula isn't doing it the way he says he is.

Still to be explained by the believers is this: How can a circuit produce the _same_ instrumental measurements using the _same_ external component values, if there is something wrong or special about the core itself?

Any differences in characteristics of the core -- real electrical characteristics like permeability, B-H hysteresis, conductivity, and so on .... would make the circuit behave differently. But the only difference is that Akula's lights stay on -- when he's at home, not in Germany.

@TinselKoala,

Can you share schematics, and or video and explanation...

Thanks.

verpies

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1163 on: May 05, 2014, 07:07:29 PM »
Any differences in characteristics of the core -- real electrical characteristics like permeability, B-H hysteresis, conductivity, and so on .... would make the circuit behave differently.
In principle it does not have to be that way.
A certain charactersistic can result in different behavior of the circuit while without that characteristic the circuit can behave exactly as predicted by conventional electronic engineering.

I'm not advocating for Akula - just objecting to the absolute logic of that statement (not its probability).

tysb3

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1164 on: May 05, 2014, 07:49:18 PM »


...that Akula's lights stay on -- when he's at home, not in Germany.

If you can please the source of this information.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1165 on: May 05, 2014, 08:01:53 PM »
  All:
   It looks like none of the Akula schematics are correct, and we are just wasting time to replicate them. However, if we find the right way of doing it, or the correct approach, we may be able to get somewhere with this.  Until one of us is able to obtain some replicable results, we are all just spinning our wheels.

Hi ya Nick  8) ,

Its not so much a case of us just spinning our wheels, rather Akula spinning out of control!  ;D

Its time we stopped dribbling over every very unconvincing self-running device he posts.  :(

NickZ

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1166 on: May 05, 2014, 08:16:57 PM »
  TK: 
  Can you also show us how "easy" it is to disconnect the input and show it self running.
  The corrected schematic may not be correct, as the leds still go out, and therefore not a working replication.
   If Akula is still not providing for a true working schematic, how do you know that the corrected schematic is correct?
  Maybe try different types of cores, of that design, if you think that the core is the problem.
  Akula has used many different types of cores, and obtained the shown results.
IF true.   Are they all those different cores special?  Nor has this been proven, either. But, he did point out that the smaller sized yoke did NOT work on his first device. So, not all yokes work the same for that purpose, and possibly the same with the smaller transformer cores of the low voltage circuits.
  In any case, good luck with your tests... I know how frustrating this can all be.
 

wattsup

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1167 on: May 05, 2014, 08:20:05 PM »
@TK

I am also getting some results;

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2358.msg38264#msg38264

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2358.msg38319#msg38319

I am not using the circuit board of the AK30. I am just replicating the final stages including the main mosfet, main cap feed and all the other peripherals just to experiment the actual effects that would be responsible for the looping.

Right now I can apply my FG and scope probes. Start up the system with a manual B+ and then remove the B+, the FG and the scope probes and the LED is still lit dimly for a real long time before it goes out. So I think I am getting closer.

Modifications that I  have done are as follows;

1) Added a 2nd mosfet between R1/C2 and L1 whose base is in parallel with the present mosfet.
2) I sanded down one of my extra ungapped ecore half to make it now as a gapped ecore.
3) Added a diode between R3 and C11 pointing to C11.
4) Bypassed R5 and C5 since I am not using any feedback at the moment.
5) Core winds as shown in the link above.
6) Reversed the direction of the D6 diode so only possible ffed from the output to L2 is via the resistor but diode is there to bleed some excess to load.

Still need to integrate a few pots to replace some of these resistors for more precise fine tuning and then work on increasing the output.

But if you ask me, guys should not get too bogged down by the actual circuit board if you have an FG, just make a loose build and play the hell out of it to learn the effects.

wattsup

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1168 on: May 05, 2014, 08:46:11 PM »
@ wattsup,

I read your post at OUR and noted your post asking about the scope issue. Please check your menu (if this is a DSO) as you set the multiplier there too to compensate for the probe setting.

NickZ

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1169 on: May 05, 2014, 08:57:06 PM »
   Hoppy:
   Agreed, I'm coming to the same conclusion, after numerous months (and years) of effort. But, I can't just sit on my hands, either. So...
   However, I'm still closely following what Igor has been doing and showing lately. As it saves me the time, trouble and expense to go through the same steps towards finding that illusive feed back path. And, at least Igor may not be pulling our leg, or spinning out of control.
  I've gotten my Mazilli/yoke circuit to partially light 660 to 700 watts worth of incandescent bulbs, now. Still working on the feed back circuit. This lights my small house quite nicely, but not for long, on the small battery which is being charged by solar means.
 I've made a video to show these results, but have not posted it yet, as I can't find my camera to Pc connection cable.  I'll do so in a day or two, and will post it on the Dally thread, instead.
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