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tysb3

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1080 on: May 02, 2014, 12:43:19 AM »
yes, I'm staying, I'm  repeating what was told  in conference with Akula:
1) find your transformers core resonance.
2) tune HF generators coil in resonance on 1/2 or 1/4 or 1/8 frequency  transformers core resonance. you need to have 2 resonances at one time. ignorant people don't listen that.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1081 on: May 02, 2014, 12:54:46 AM »
..... the conventional engineering are fighting spikes/etc as you just said. To reach energy consumption down to almost 0 a least - you need to recover energy from those spikes and loop it back to the input. So it is opposite to what every engineer is tought how to deal with such things...

Good evening T-1000

Maybe this is what you are talking about:

"A pair of auxiliary switches, resonant inductors, and clamping capacitors is added to the primary side of the transformer to clamp voltage spike and recycle the energy trapped in the leakage inductors. In the proposed active-clamp push–pull converter, since both main and auxiliary switches can be turned ON with zero-voltage switching, switching loss can be reduced and conversion efficiency therefore can be improved significantly."

PLease see attachment:

take care, peace
lost_bro

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Second attachment:" High Step-Up Ratio DC-to-DC Converter with Recuperation of the Leakage Energy"
 Uses a BUCK converter to recycle Leakage Inductance energy.

EMJunkie

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1082 on: May 02, 2014, 01:30:00 AM »
Hi All,

I was looking at the TL494IN Chip again and some data on it is interesting:
                                               MIN           MAX         UNIT
fOSC     Oscillator frequency       1              300           kHz
CT        Timing capacitor            0.47          10000       nF
RT        Timing resistor              1.8            500           kΩ

Pin 5 is the Timing Capacitor Pin. Pin 6 is the Timing Resistor Pin. Akula has uses a 10K and a 20K Pots and I cant quite read the Capacitor Values. I have guessed them to be 2.2pf and 8.2pf but looking at the sheet, this may be wrong. More like 8.2nf and 2.2nf if the figures are right.

I guess the point is, Akula has half the Pot value from one TL494IN to the other which supports the idea that he was looking for the Phase Shifted Frequency we have previously spoken about. We can also see this in the amount of coil turns 13 vs 7 and also nearly half the Capacitance Values.

See Picture Below:

All the Best

  Chris

Hi All,

I should clarify more on my post I am quoting above.

We could nearly say that the below picture is the third harmonic of the first. This could be viewed in lots of different ways. We could say that one coil was resonant at 55.04KHz and the other is resonant at the third harmonic of that, which would be 220.16KHz (Please correct me if I am wrong!)

NOTE: The values and Images are from Stivep Video:-->Akula video #5 translated by Wesley. ( Free Energy device)<--

It has been said a few times that the output power is generated when these conditions are met. This was the whole point of this Video Explanation.

These waves are known from the Coil Resonance where the highest (Q) Quality Factor is. -->Finding Self Resonant Frequency of an inductor<-- At the highest point of the peaks is the best Q Factor of the Coil. This is Very Easy to do. Other ways to do it are the same as Akula does it in the video, drive Coil and tune the frequency till the coil under test resonates which will be seen on the scope.

For those that don't already know: Maximum Q Factor of the coil is reached when XC and XL are equal and as a result they each cancel. Where XC is Capacitive Reactance and XL is Inductive Reactance. At this point the Wave going into the coil is optimised for the length of the coil, you could say like an Antenna, this is where Power can be transferred at the optimium point and very little power is lost.

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Resonance frequencies may be maintained quite constant at high power levels so long as the load remains constant. We are all familiar with AM and FM propagation, where in the case as AM, the voltage amplitude varies, and with FM, the frequency is modulated.

However, the output power sees a constant load impedance, that of the matched antenna system. If this changes, the input to the antenna is mismatched, and standing waves are generated resulting in a loss of power. The frequency is a forced response and remains constant. Power is lost and efficiency becomes less and less, depending on the degree of mismatch.

Magnetic Resonance by Floyd Sweet.

So the length of the wire determines the Resonance? Not entirely. The formula is still the same for LC Resonance:

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F =    ------------
         2pi sqrt LC

So its the Inductance XL, and the Capacitance XC, Capacitance being the Coils Distributed Capacitance, ensuring we know that X is Reactance. See: -->Electromagnetic Wave Propagation<-- and -->Propagating Electromagnetic Wave<--

More Complexities can happen in the Conductor if the Wavelength is not correct, Nodes can occur where Voltage can go to Zero and Current to Max... I don't want to go into this here because its not really relevant  :)

My point of all this, is, that if we want to transfer any energy from one coil to another, its best to do it at resonance! Akula was showing us this in his videos.

All the Best

  Chris



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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1083 on: May 02, 2014, 02:12:49 AM »
Hi All,

I should clarify more on my post I am quoting above.

We could nearly say that the below picture is the third harmonic of the first. This could be viewed in lots of different ways. We could say that one coil was resonant at 55.04KHz and the other is resonant at the third harmonic of that, which would be 220.16KHz (Please correct me if I am wrong!)

NOTE: The values and Images are from Stivep Video:-->Akula video #5 translated by Wesley. ( Free Energy device)<--

It has been said a few times that the output power is generated when these conditions are met. This was the whole point of this Video Explanation.

These waves are known from the Coil Resonance where the highest (Q) Quality Factor is. -->Finding Self Resonant Frequency of an inductor<-- At the highest point of the peaks is the best Q Factor of the Coil. This is Very Easy to do. Other ways to do it are the same as Akula does it in the video, drive Coil and tune the frequency till the coil under test resonates which will be seen on the scope.

For those that don't already know: Maximum Q Factor of the coil is reached when XC and XL are equal and as a result they each cancel. Where XC is Capacitive Reactance and XL is Inductive Reactance. At this point the Wave going into the coil is optimised for the length of the coil, you could say like an Antenna, this is where Power can be transferred at the optimium point and very little power is lost.

So the length of the wire determines the Resonance? Not entirely. The formula is still the same for LC Resonance:

               1
F =    ------------
         2pi sqrt LC

So its the Inductance XL, and the Capacitance XC, Capacitance being the Coils Distributed Capacitance, ensuring we know that X is Reactance. See: -->Electromagnetic Wave Propagation<-- and -->Propagating Electromagnetic Wave<--

More Complexities can happen in the Conductor if the Wavelength is not correct, Nodes can occur where Voltage can go to Zero and Current to Max... I don't want to go into this here because its not really relevant  :)

My point of all this, is, that if we want to transfer any energy from one coil to another, its best to do it at resonance! Akula was showing us this in his videos.

All the Best

  Chris

Good evening EMjunkie

OK, you are talking about XL, CL(mistake..typo.. should be *XC* not CL) induced resonance.......

And Ferro-resonance and/or Dimensional Resonance are *different* animals from the XL and CL resonance.........
please see post #374: http://www.overunity.com/14524/3v-ou-flashlight/360/#.U2LikIFdX7c

So, from what I have understood from all the information that has arrived to this forum pertaining to the Akula *devices* is:

The XL,CL Resonance frequency  MUST *coincide* with the Ferro-resonance and/or Dimensional Resonance  Frequency (ies) of the coil in question for the *magic* to happen.

Any comments please????

take care, peace
lost_bro


Edit sorry for the confusion with the original post (put CL instead of XC... typo) ,  did not catch the mistake until  EMJunkie answered this post below:

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1084 on: May 02, 2014, 02:31:18 AM »
yes, I'm staying, I'm  repeating what was told  in conference with Akula:
1) find your transformers core resonance.
2) tune HF generators coil in resonance on 1/2 or 1/4 or 1/8 frequency  transformers core resonance. you need to have 2 resonances at one time. ignorant people don't listen that.

Hey tysb3,

I agree with this exactly! This is the way I see it.

This must be done twice, once for each input coil, each at the harmonic interval difference I previously described.

All the Best

  Chris

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1085 on: May 02, 2014, 02:57:11 AM »
@ EMJunkie thank you.

I'm not professional in electronics, but I think 2 resonances is very tricky moment, not easy to catch them together.



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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1086 on: May 02, 2014, 03:03:37 AM »
The XL,CL Resonance frequency  MUST *coincide* with the Ferro-resonance and/or Dimensional Resonance  Frequency (ies) of the coil in question for the *magic* to happen.

Hey Lost_Bro,

Yes, I sort of agree. We are talking about two different things here. But at this stage we don't want to confuse this topic. If those following are experimenting on this, they will start to see what we have talked about already then the next bit should start to fall into place.

The reason being, simplified, Ferro-resonance and/or Dimensional Resonance, is simply just Domain Wall Resonance, one could also say, its a spin Wave. Again this is way beyond where we are right now.

A beautiful example of this is here: -->Spin Wave on a Chain <--

Note:
XL: Inductive Reactance - Inductive reactance is an opposition to the change of current through an element.
XC: Capacitive Reactance - Capacitive reactance is an opposition to the change of voltage across an element.
See: -->Electrical Reactance<--

All the Best

  Chris

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1087 on: May 02, 2014, 03:08:45 AM »
@ EMJunkie thank you.

I'm not professional in electronics, but I think 2 resonances is very tricky moment, not easy to catch them together.

Hey tysb3,

I don't think they have to be entirely perfect. I think once they are close, we will start to see a Standing Wave form that is a Harmonic of the two. We will see what can be achieved here and compare results.

The Standing Wave Frequency will depend on the degree of Miss-Match between the two waves.

All the Best

  Chris

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1088 on: May 02, 2014, 03:22:36 AM »
Hey Lost_Bro,

Yes, I sort of agree. We are talking about two different things here. But at this stage we don't want to confuse this topic. If those following are experimenting on this, they will start to see what we have talked bout already then the next bit should start to fall into place.

The reason being, simplified, Ferro-resonance and/or Dimensional Resonance, is simply just Domain Wall Resonance, one could also say, its a spin Wave. Again this is way beyond where we are right now.

A beautiful example of this is here: -->Spin Wave on a Chain <--

Note:
XL: Inductive Reactance - Inductive reactance is an opposition to the change of current through an element.
XC: Capacitive Reactance - Capacitive reactance is an opposition to the change of voltage across an element.
See: -->Electrical Reactance<--

All the Best

  Chris

Hello EMJunkie

Just corrected my post above, put CL instead of XC,,, typo.....

I do *not* understand that the XL, XC resonance spoken of above to be the *type* of resonance that Akula talks of in the tape transcripts.....

Apparently he states many times the word *ferro resonance* and relates it to the type of resonance he *believes* his circuit is experiencing.

I would assume that someone who can design a SMPS type (O.U.????) circuit understands the difference between Ferro resonance and Common XL,XC resonance.

Just more food for thought as I play the devil's advocate ;)

take care, peace
lost_bro

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« Reply #1089 on: May 02, 2014, 03:28:02 AM »
@ EMJunkie

maybe it is some free limits, but Akula told, if you at home in the evening tune OU device and switch it off,  in the morning you can't start it again because of change room temperature. you need to start tune device again.  in the laboratory, where is always constant temperature, with this is no problem.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1090 on: May 02, 2014, 03:31:31 AM »
Hello EMJunkie

Just corrected my post above, put CL instead of XC,,, typo.....

I do *not* understand that the XL, XC resonance spoken of above to be the *type* of resonance that Akula talks of in the tape transcripts.....

Apparently he states many times the word *ferro resonance* and relates it to the type of resonance he *believes* his circuit is experiencing.

I would assume that someone who can design a SMPS type (O.U.????) circuit understands the difference between Ferro resonance and Common XL,XC resonance.

Just more food for thought as I play the devil's advocate ;)

take care, peace
lost_bro

Hey Lost_Bro,

I suggest you repeat the experiment without taking into account the words spoken by Akula.

Its a very simple experiment. Will take maybe 5 minutes like Akula has shown in the Video. Also please watch the video again, with the volume off as you're doing the experiment.

I have in the past, quite often, and sometimes still do, used terminology that may not be correct for the actual situation. I do now make more of an effort to use the correct terminology as I know how it can severely confuse a situation.

You will see, by repeating the experiment, that's it is as I have explained. Its a well known effect, used in Antenna Tunning and so on.

All the Best

  Chris

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1091 on: May 02, 2014, 04:32:48 AM »
I've been waiting and waiting for anyone to come up with a ferroresonance pictures and so far, it seems, I have to do it myself.

Feast your eyes on the one attached.
The pulse's frequency is 630 kHz but the response is around 10 Mhz. (the core is a large (2") ferrite ring). Some other cores I've tested are from 600 kH to 1.5 mHz.
As a matter of interest I have ran spectrum analisys on the last one and it goes all the way to 5 Ghz. However, the ripples in the higher band are insignificant. Typically at the level of -27dB to -40dB.

~A

BTW,
the absolute majority of people here are wrong. Finding the resonance is extremely easy. Just shoot a sharp impulse at the core and, hey, presto!
2 resonances (or 22 for that matter) are equally as easy.
I am running sweeping analisys on dual frequencies pulse system but, so far, there is nothing interesting to report.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1092 on: May 02, 2014, 04:43:02 AM »
@ avalon

yes, there was (not mine)

@ AlI

one more possibility how to find core resonance:

http://realstrannik.ru/media/kunena/attachments/6159/opredelenie_MR.pdf

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« Reply #1093 on: May 02, 2014, 04:48:11 AM »

The trouble is I do not follow that forum.
Regardless,  it looks very similar.

So, any studies on beat frequencies? After all, we are interested in an unusually big response we can use.

~A

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1094 on: May 02, 2014, 10:25:20 AM »
@All,

I have found a way to produce the signals we need. Its quite cost efficient, doesn't require lot of time and is easy. Its very flexible and should be very easy to implement.

What's in your Tool Kit?
Most of us have been using Microcontrollers, some have been using them for sometime!

If your Tool Kit does not Include a Microcontroller them I highly recommend you start looking at it.

Microcontrollers - FEZ Hydra
I have programed a FEZ Hydra to produce the signals we need! Initially I did not think it would be possible due to CPU PWM Frequency Limitations. I am having stray inductance issues at high frequency but its not too bad considering.

Its early days in this endeavour and lots of improvements can be made. The point is that the signals are there, they are good for High Frequency with a little tiding up we could make big improvements.

If enough are keen then I can move forward and show others how to do it.

Advisory
I don't recommend anyone rush out and purchase a FEZ Hydra at this point in time! Its early and this path of investigation may not result in what we are after. For those that don't have a FEZ Hydra already that is! If you have a FEZ Hydra sitting around and have not used for a while then let me know and we can start some very simple experiments.

NOTE: If you're new to the FEZ Hydra, it can be a little problematic and in the past has had a ton of issues. Most issues are now fixed which is good!

All the Best

  Chris