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MenofFather

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1050 on: May 01, 2014, 11:44:18 AM »

@All - Would a SMD or Through Hole board be better?

All the Best

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I think [size=78%]Through Hole board is better.[/size]

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1051 on: May 01, 2014, 11:53:11 AM »
hi all: Originally wanted to say something, but still forget. :)

T-1000

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1052 on: May 01, 2014, 12:41:17 PM »
People sometimes really amuse me greatly. Especially in these Akula threads. We have several people telling us what will work and what won't work and why and why not ... but it seems to me that the real key to getting one of these circuits "working" is .... you have to be Akula! Because _nobody_ else has actually demonstrated a "working" version of any of his circuits. The people who "know".... are just guessing, I think. Where is the evidence for their contentions that "A" works but "B" doesn't work? I don't think there is any.
Well, if you would speak Russian and listen latest teamspeak recording.. the rebuilding of circuit would be a lot more easy. It was explained there how circuit is supposed to work and what effect needs to be aimed for.
Also I tried my best to explain in forums as well because Roman's LEDs circuit are exploiting same effect I had with Lithuanian Yoke experiment...
General principles of making good transformer effect and using resonant voltage rise or VRSWR (standing wave resonance) are always good to have in mind: Fast cutoffs of transistors driving inductive loads, and fast acting diodes in parts of the circuit handling the spikes and ringdown from the inductors when they are switched off. But these principles are known by anyone who builds and experiments with solid state TCs or other HV and VHV apparatus.
For this part - the conventional engineering are fighting spikes/etc as you just said. To reach energy consumption down to almost 0 a least - you need to recover energy from those spikes and loop it back to the input. So it is opposite to what every engineer is tought how to deal with such things...

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1053 on: May 01, 2014, 12:42:37 PM »
@Chris:
I didn't even "add values" to that schematic. I made no changes in any schematics _except_ the 3V flashlight one in the other thread. I only posted the 2x 494 schematic to ask if it was the "Official Approved" one, and I appreciate your pointing out the discrepancies you have noticed.
Hi TinselKoala,
I have some question "officially approved" ! So is Mr Akula replied approval values ​​in the circuit board or the other one? . .The reason is to be the basis of printed circuit board assembly. . .

Thank you.

TinselKoala

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1054 on: May 01, 2014, 12:59:17 PM »
Hi TinselKoala,
I have some question "officially approved" ! So is Mr Akula replied approval values ​​in the circuit board or the other one? . .The reason is to be the basis of printed circuit board assembly. . .

Thank you.

Mr Akula hasn't said anything one way or the other, as far as I can determine.

Whatever you use for the basis for your PCB design will be found to be wrong, after you get the boards back and build the circuit onto them and find they don't self-run, I guarantee it.

You will be spending money and time for nothing, and you will be stuck with some nice PCB oscillators that don't work when the power is removed.

And there are far cheaper ways to arrive at that result. I have been through this before.

I know you will not take my advice, though.

I think it's pretty silly to ask "through hole or SMD". There may be two or three people on this forum who could handle building this circuit with SMD components, and I'm not one of them. But the method I will be using is a "surface mount" technique, just with parts I can see with unaided vision and can handle with my fingers instead of tweezers.

Besides... didn't Groundloop or one of those folks already design a PCB for this circuit? Or is that another of Akula's miracles I'm thinking of?

Oh yes, GL made the one for the single mosfet, single 494 circuit.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1055 on: May 01, 2014, 01:07:19 PM »
Hi TinselKoala,
Maybe you confused me with someone else, I did not ask any questions this "through hole or SMD"! . .   :D

TinselKoala

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1056 on: May 01, 2014, 01:12:12 PM »
Well, if you would speak Russian and listen latest teamspeak recording.. the rebuilding of circuit would be a lot more easy. It was explained there how circuit is supposed to work and what effect needs to be aimed for.
Also I tried my best to explain in forums as well because Roman's LEDs circuit are exploiting same effect I had with Lithuanian Yoke experiment...For this part - the conventional engineering are fighting spikes/etc as you just said. To reach energy consumption down to almost 0 a least - you need to recover energy from those spikes and loop it back to the input. So it is opposite to what every engineer is tought how to deal with such things...
There is nothing in your post that contradicts or refutes what I said: nobody except Akula has demonstrated "self running" on any of the _many_ circuits that are supposed to be coming from Akula. Nobody has done comparison testing and shown different performance with different ferrites in the same circuit. Nobody has shown how to "recover energy from those spikes and loop it back to the input".  Nobody, in fact, has shown _real_ provable and repeatable results that are different from or better than my own.

If you think I don't know how to recover the spikes from switched inductances and put them to use, you should check out my YouTube channel, I have many many demonstrations of doing just that. For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0sjqoshznU

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1057 on: May 01, 2014, 01:19:32 PM »
Hi TinselKoala,
Maybe you confused me with someone else, I did not ask any questions this "through hole or SMD"! . .   :D

No, I am not confused. Look up in the thread, you will see that the question has been asked, and I "assumed" you were talking about the same project of designing and ordering PCBs. If you are considering doing a different PCB project than EMJunkie, I apologize... and I give you the same advice: Don't bother doing it until after someone else, not Akula and maybe even not Russian, posts a credible replication of the self-running effect.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1058 on: May 01, 2014, 01:26:08 PM »

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1059 on: May 01, 2014, 01:50:35 PM »
I think it's pretty silly to ask "through hole or SMD".

TK! You in a bad mood today?

Cheer Up and try to be positive! Like I said, I am going to breadboard it first, and then when I have it working, my circuit will only need a layout done!

All the Best

  Chris

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1060 on: May 01, 2014, 01:57:20 PM »
There is nothing in your post that contradicts or refutes what I said: nobody except Akula has demonstrated "self running" on any of the _many_ circuits that are supposed to be coming from Akula. Nobody has done comparison testing and shown different performance with different ferrites in the same circuit. Nobody has shown how to "recover energy from those spikes and loop it back to the input".  Nobody, in fact, has shown _real_ provable and repeatable results that are different from or better than my own.

If you think I don't know how to recover the spikes from switched inductances and put them to use, you should check out my YouTube channel, I have many many demonstrations of doing just that. For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0sjqoshznU
Emotions... :) Just it does not help to get the truth.
And the truth is simple enough - there is possibility to extract usable energy from matter. And I experienced that myself with max 15W in and 150W bulb lit back in 2011 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-c5zSviuXk
There is no fake in my case. And there was neutron radiation poisoning as side effect which left burns on people after that experiment when we did it without knowing about such possibility...
So think what you like about it.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1061 on: May 01, 2014, 02:06:12 PM »
look Lasersaber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dq9NQhzdw0&feature
Hi Ed morbus,
Thank link
Looking at the video, I have been hoping to achieve success with the circuit diagram Akula0083, which together with the people we're done. . . ;D

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1062 on: May 01, 2014, 02:13:26 PM »
@TK

If the TL494 can do up to 800KHz, why is it stuck at 300KHz? That was my question in posts past.

Also just posted this at OUR.

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@ION

Thanks for your reply but let me articulate my point with this photo below.

Here you see the actual size of ETD-29 that fits both circuit boards compared to an ETD-34, which is still very small and also fits
the circuit boards. Consider that the ETD-29 ecore is being asked to dish out a good 30 something watts plus looping energy and
compare this to the ccore used in the v3 device that's only putting out a few watts. There is no logic possible to explain any more
clearly.

@All

I have ordered some ETD-54 - Type 87 non-gapped to do my tests. If you are using the ETD-29, maybe consider changing your
load to not more then 2-3 watts to start and then there may be some small changes required in the circuit to lower the overall
throughput. Maybe put just enough load so when the circuit is energized (large caps full) and when the power is removed, the
leds would take at least 2-3 seconds to turn off. That would be one way to choose maximum load with the ETD-29. 

Come to think of it, this one core size comparison, that I did not realize earlier until I had an ETD29 in my hands, now confirms
to me that the x-named41 video was faked 2000%. That little ecore that he held between his fingers, like I have in my hand
right now, could never do the job he is purporting. Wrong core size. So he just spiked his circuit board from under the panel and
faked it, like I had already shown.

It takes time to figure things out. On the way, we discover new aspects that then build on others. Call it a process. If you are
running the AK30 board, you will require more core if yo want to produce the design output.

wattsup
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Once my larger Ecores arrive I am going to completely disregard the pulse generation part of the circuit because this for me is
not important and I do not trust the Akula schematic. As I show in the below simplified schematic where the real effect can be
properly hunted down.

If with this set-up, the system keeps looping when I remove the battery and the leds are well lit, even if I use my FG on the
mosfet gate, this will at least confirm that looping is possible and then with this once the main frequency is established, this
should then run on its own with a much simpler gate circuit.

wattsup

PS: Had to force carriage returns at the end of lines to make the text not run off the page.

MenofFather

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1063 on: May 01, 2014, 02:33:18 PM »
...2011 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-c5zSviuXk
But you seems run on not full brightness, so what you put, that you get is. :)

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1064 on: May 01, 2014, 02:34:59 PM »
Dear wattsup,
Thank you very much.

Havuhung