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Author Topic: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.  (Read 960400 times)

Offline lost_bro

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #570 on: April 08, 2014, 03:28:04 AM »
Hi  All;

Sorry if this is OFF topic:

Here it is , the QEG user manual....

take care, peace
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #571 on: April 08, 2014, 05:32:53 AM »
Hi  All;

Sorry if this is OFF topic:

Here it is , the QEG user manual....

take care, peace
lost_bro

I been looking into this, but there is no video that shows the device running and the unplug it from the grid, it me be a very well orchestrated scam.... it does not make sense that a person with so many patents and so many etc etc, does not have money to move from one place to another... they are sooo poor that they need money to finish the motor... plus she uses God to many times... ::)

when you go to one of her site, she has donations buttons everywhere....  :-\

The plans that are circulating on the web they really dont tell you anything....

Just be carefull people, wii be my first take on this.

The Stone.






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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #572 on: April 08, 2014, 11:03:23 AM »
Hoppy:

You posted your R5 waveform:

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2358.msg37415#msg37415

You notice the negative spike and the ring-down after the current flow stops.  I still believe that is due to the small amount of inductive energy associated with R5 discharging into C5 when the current flow stops and then ringing down.  I was wondering what your thoughts are on that.

Thanks,

MileHigh

Hoppy.... why are you using "AC coupling" on your oscilloscope shot?

This removes any DC component that may be in the signal and brings the _average_ value of the signal down (or up) to the channel's zero voltage baseline level. In other words.... it removes the necessary quantitative information such as peak voltage values, average values, etc. since you _don't know_ how much the AC coupling has moved your signal up or down.

The AC vs. DC coupling feature is probably the least understood and the most error-inducing feature of oscilloscopes. AC coupling should NOT BE USED unless it is actually needed, for example to deliberately remove a large DC offset so that a small ripple can be seen.

AC coupling breaks the straight connection between the probe and the attenuator circuit in the scope, and puts a _series capacitor_ in line instead of the straight wire connection. That is all it does. Thus it removes any DC level and just allows the changing level of the signal to be displayed. This removes information from the displayed trace.

If you have a large DC offset and the signal you are interested in is just a small fluctuation in that large DC offset, then the use of AC Coupling may be appropriate. But FIRST you need to know how much your baseline is going to move when you select the AC coupling and boost the gain to see the small fluctuation. This means you normally leave the scope in DC coupling, you read where the DC offset level is, THEN you switch to AC coupling and boost the gain to see the ripple or small signal on top of the large DC offset. Then you know that the new "baseline" actually corresponds to the voltage level you read when you used DC coupled, and your "AC" is fluctuating around that "DC" level.

"AC Coupling" and "DC Coupling" really have nothing to do with whether you are measuring an "AC" or a "DC" signal. It refers to how the signal is connected to the oscilloscope: Through a capacitor, or not. You can simulate AC coupling simply by hooking a capacitor, like 0.1 uF poly film, onto the end of your probe between the DUT and the probe tip while in the "DC Coupled" setting.

The internal "AC Coupling" switch and capacitor in my old RM503:

(ETA: If your mosfets are getting hot... this means that either they are dissipating a lot of your power due to the body diode's action on reverse-voltage spikes, and/or that your mosfet is spending too much time in the "linear conductance" region (partially turned on) and so has a much higher Rdss than its normal full-on rating, so is dissipating a lot of power by Joule heating (I2R).)

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #572 on: April 08, 2014, 11:03:23 AM »
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #573 on: April 08, 2014, 11:07:58 AM »
I been looking into this, but there is no video that shows the device running and the unplug it from the grid, it me be a very well orchestrated scam.... it does not make sense that a person with so many patents and so many etc etc, does not have money to move from one place to another... they are sooo poor that they need money to finish the motor... plus she uses God to many times... ::)

when you go to one of her site, she has donations buttons everywhere....  :-\

The plans that are circulating on the web they really dont tell you anything....

Just be carefull people, wii be my first take on this.

The Stone.

These people have no working prototype, and can give you no experimental data that would lead them to think they will ever achieve what they claim. They are either in collusion with Timothy Thrapp, or they themselves have been bamboozled by him. The excuses are already coming, fast and thick, and in a couple of days you will see more excuses as to why it's not running "now" but will be running "soon".... just be patient..... soon.....
Soon...
soon....

but soon never comes.

ETA: These "religiously" motivated FE claimants are the worst of the worst. Their devices never actually work like the "revelations" predict. Yet they never conclude that, perhaps..... their God just is joking around with them and doesn't really want them to succeed. Or that the "revelation" came originally from, eg, Satan, who is after all the Father of Lies, and who is getting his big jollies down there in Hell watching people like WhateverGirl and Tamothy Thripp getting fat off of other people's gullibility.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #574 on: April 08, 2014, 11:46:13 AM »
Hoppy.... why are you using "AC coupling" on your oscilloscope shot?

This removes any DC component that may be in the signal and brings the _average_ value of the signal down (or up) to the channel's zero voltage baseline level. In other words.... it removes the necessary quantitative information such as peak voltage values, average values, etc. since you _don't know_ how much the AC coupling has moved your signal up or down.

The AC vs. DC coupling feature is probably the least understood and the most error-inducing feature of oscilloscopes. AC coupling should NOT BE USED unless it is actually needed, for example to deliberately remove a large DC offset so that a small ripple can be seen.


(ETA: If your mosfets are getting hot... this means that either they are dissipating a lot of your power due to the body diode's action on reverse-voltage spikes, and/or that your mosfet is spending too much time in the "linear conductance" region (partially turned on) and so has a much higher Rdss than its normal full-on rating, so is dissipating a lot of power by Joule heating (I2R).)

There is a massive DC coupling which is why I deliberately AC coupled the waveform to see it clearly, which is why the menu strip is in the shot to clearly show that the signal is AC coupled. Look at the vertical scaling!

Yes, the mosfet is getting very hot partly because of insufficient gate voltage, as I was not able to raise the supply voltage above 6.8V without an excessive current draw of around 12 Amps! This circuit as it stands is performing well as a mini hand warmer.  ;D

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #574 on: April 08, 2014, 11:46:13 AM »
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #575 on: April 08, 2014, 01:56:36 PM »
Hi  All;

Sorry if this is OFF topic:

Here it is , the QEG user manual....

take care, peace
lost_bro


Hi, thanks for the pdf, I already did check out on it and my first impression was - well, it might work with proper adjustment.


From the knowledge I have, when you make toroidal generator there was at least one case I know already when it ignored shorted circuit and did not slow down motor. Also there is coil shorting involved and that is where Ismael Aviso car is based on. And on resonance the consumption is minimal with maximum output...
So all this stuff makes sense and needs for someone to pick up and try to assemble small to medium size unit then try to get maximum performance out of it ;)


Cheers!


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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #576 on: April 08, 2014, 03:14:06 PM »
There is a massive DC coupling which is why I deliberately AC coupled the waveform to see it clearly, which is why the menu strip is in the shot to clearly show that the signal is AC coupled. Look at the vertical scaling!

Yes, the mosfet is getting very hot partly because of insufficient gate voltage, as I was not able to raise the supply voltage above 6.8V without an excessive current draw of around 12 Amps! This circuit as it stands is performing well as a mini hand warmer.  ;D

OK, if you are using AC coupling deliberately that's fine... but then of course your "spike" isn't really going negative at all, is it, since it's sitting on top of your "massive DC coupling" or rather component, and the reference baseline of your channel does not represent "zero voltage" or ground level at all, but rather the value of the DC component.  It would be nice to know the value of this massive DC component, don't you think?

You are also using 20 mV /division which is the most sensitive setting on many scopes, so your amplitudes aren't that great compared to the DC component.
 
The channel's AC or DC coupling is continuously displayed on your scope, by the presence or absence of the little sine wave symbol next to the channel setting, below the trace display area.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #577 on: April 08, 2014, 03:38:20 PM »

Hi, thanks for the pdf, I already did check out on it and my first impression was - well, it might work with proper adjustment.


From the knowledge I have, when you make toroidal generator there was at least one case I know already when it ignored shorted circuit and did not slow down motor. Also there is coil shorting involved and that is where Ismael Aviso car is based on. And on resonance the consumption is minimal with maximum output...
So all this stuff makes sense and needs for someone to pick up and try to assemble small to medium size unit then try to get maximum performance out of it ;)


Cheers!

I think the mix in in the putting... if they have so many years working on this where is a working prototype... with a HD clear video not what you find in the web, all blurred out and no measurements of input and output....

I think these people are very good in creating a marketing campaign and promise utopia for energy and offer it for free to the word but of course then they ask for donations... you see so many donations websites about this HOPE girl it is ridiculous... she most be making millions !!!! and of course she does not has anything working that she can show for....

Give hope of something to people and they will follow you... that is way the mix it with religion...

The Stone.



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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #579 on: April 08, 2014, 03:50:40 PM »
Where is this video of one "working?" The last I heard they were having it rewound because it _didn't_ work but rather shorted some windings.

OK, it has no magnets, but it has the functional equivalent, in the changing flux path provided by the rotating armature. Since one set of coils is energized by the mains, it is making a field, which is then channeled across the halves of the torus by the rotating bar. I have no doubt that high voltages can be produced in this manner, just like a magneto does.

Running itself, though? Nope, that it will never do.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #581 on: April 08, 2014, 04:12:15 PM »
I see... your definition of "working" is different from mine.

For this device, "working" means "working AS CLAIMED". That is, running itself with no outside power, and producing excess power to light up a load bank. Is there some problem with that definition?

They have not done this, nobody has done this, and nobody will do this, even if the insulation holds up.  Sure, motor rewinders are happy to get custom work, it pays well and they have nothing at stake. So?

Funny how all those faces are blurred out, on this OPEN SOURCE project, isn't it?


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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #582 on: April 08, 2014, 05:46:20 PM »
I see... your definition of "working" is different from mine.

For this device, "working" means "working AS CLAIMED". That is, running itself with no outside power, and producing excess power to light up a load bank. Is there some problem with that definition?

They have not done this, nobody has done this, and nobody will do this, even if the insulation holds up.  Sure, motor rewinders are happy to get custom work, it pays well and they have nothing at stake. So?

Funny how all those faces are blurred out, on this OPEN SOURCE project, isn't it?

Hehe I like your definition of "working" TinselKoala.

I wonder why they edited and deleted the other comments...

The Stone,

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #583 on: April 08, 2014, 06:52:56 PM »

They have not done this, nobody has done this, and nobody will do this, even if the insulation holds up.  Sure, motor rewinders are happy to get custom work, it pays well and they have nothing at stake. So?

Ditto.

~A

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #584 on: April 08, 2014, 08:53:57 PM »
Hehe I like your definition of "working" TinselKoala.

I wonder why they edited and deleted the other comments...

The Stone,

Argh. Now you see why I often take screenshots of posts. This time I didn't....

 

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