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Author Topic: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.  (Read 1081094 times)

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #480 on: March 30, 2014, 05:35:23 AM »
Dave45 said:

" Sometimes I wonder why I even try, all I get is ridiculed and criticized. "



The question myself and I'm sure many are asking is...so for, ' how's conventional thinking working for ya ?'

All ideas have potential to inspire other ideas.

Historically, those who have no concept of perceived limits are frequently the ones to exceed them.

Regards...



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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #480 on: March 30, 2014, 05:35:23 AM »

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #481 on: March 30, 2014, 06:30:42 AM »
See the double diodes, I didnt show it but the neg bemf from L2 feeds the neg rail through these diodes.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #482 on: March 30, 2014, 10:05:48 AM »
Mr. Verpies you may understand this but not everyone on this forum has your expertise, it took me five years to understand this, no training only help from this and other forums.
I hope to save others time, Im here to help.
Im going to simulate Akula's 80w device as I see it, but Im sure you know how that works too.
But you never know even you may be surprised  ;D

later
dave

Dave thanks for the simulation.  Please explain; I am one of those who doesn't get how the current can travel both ways through the diode.

http://makeagif.com/mqXzyk

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #482 on: March 30, 2014, 10:05:48 AM »
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Offline MenofFather

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #483 on: March 30, 2014, 10:33:29 AM »
Seems, that his фонарь 30 ватт working on tesla swith principe.

Offline verpies

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #484 on: March 30, 2014, 11:13:24 AM »
Sometimes I wonder why I even try, all I get is ridiculed and criticized.
Because criticism is a valid scientific feedback, often more educational than praising.
Note, that science is not a discipline for people driven by emotions, but for people for the affinity of logic and truth and understanding.
Those that are easily offended by criticisms of their ideas and other non-AdHominem remarks cannot pursue science in its true form.

I wanted to show the directions through the diode, so I redid it, notice the bemf runs through the diode opposite the direction the current runs through,
That's good that you want to educate others, but when you assume that position, you have to be more careful with the accurateness of your terminology.
For example: BEMF is not something that can "run" through sth.  Current can "run" but not voltage (emf).
When you are inaccurate with words, you serve more to confuse people than to educate them.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #484 on: March 30, 2014, 11:13:24 AM »
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Offline verpies

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #485 on: March 30, 2014, 11:48:42 AM »
Please explain; I am one of those who doesn't get how the current can travel both ways through the diode.
http://makeagif.com/mqXzyk
Because in this ideal circuit the electric current does not travel in both directions through the diode. 
See this animation - it is more accurate.  The upper trace shows the current flowing through the diode and the lower trace shows the voltage across the capacitor.

In the real word, diodes can conduct electric current backwards, due to:
1) junction capacitance (see this)
2) finite reverse recovery time
3) reverse Zener breakdown.
4) reverse avalanche breakdown
5) the SRD effect.
6) reverse bias leakage current (insignificant)
7) reverse photocurrent

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #486 on: March 30, 2014, 01:46:28 PM »
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See this animation - it is more accurate

Im sorry but no its not, it doesnt explain femf or bemf.

In the gif I showed the bemf from the coil hitting the leg of the capacitor, this leg then becomes pos.
Look at the schematic of the gif the neg of the battery is connected to the first leg the pos bemf hits the other leg this charges the cap.....pos on one side neg on the other.

If you run this pos bemf into another coil as Akula did its bemf will have a neg charge

Opposites attract, when a coil is hit with a neg pulse it takes on a neg charge as a whole, pos ions will form around the coil then when the magnetic field collapses it will bring a pos charge into the coil.

The same is true if you hit a coil with a pos pulse (as in the pos bemf from the neg charged coil) it takes on a pos charge and neg ions will form around this coil and its bemf or collapsing magnetic field will bring a neg charge into the coil.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #486 on: March 30, 2014, 01:46:28 PM »
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #487 on: March 30, 2014, 02:02:12 PM »
In the sim at falstad click options then uncheck conventional view and you will see how current truly moves through the circuit but it still does not show the coil reactions.

By looking at the circuit in the conventional view it appears the current continues in its original direction it appears as though whats truly bemf is femf and you see no polarity change as it moves through the diode.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #488 on: March 30, 2014, 02:58:32 PM »
Welcome to the world of unconventional thinking and free energy. (pun intended)  ;)
Oh did I mention I have a PHD, yea Im a post hole digger from way back.
roflmao
put a little joy in your heart
laughter is food for the soul

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #488 on: March 30, 2014, 02:58:32 PM »
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #489 on: March 30, 2014, 03:27:08 PM »
Dave, in your Falstead sim can you put scope testpoints right at both ends of the coils, and watch the voltage traces there as a pulse happens?

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #490 on: March 30, 2014, 03:47:54 PM »
Dave:

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Im sorry but no its not, it doesnt explain femf or bemf.

The animation might not explain it but it does show you the BEMF and the FEMF in action.  Just slow it down a bit.

The colours are showing you the voltages around the loop.  When the switch opens you can see the right side of the coil start to turn green as the discharging coil charges up the capacitor to high voltage.  That's the FEMF.

The BEMF is less evident colour-wise but you can see how the coil has a colour gradient on it also.  Look at the coil when the switch closes, that's the BEMF.

Your ideas about a coil being "charged negative or positive" are wrong.  There is no charging of the coil in the sense of a negative or positive potential and ions and all that stuff.  There is the current through the coil, and the voltage across it.  The coil is "charged" or "energized" with energy when there is current flowing through it.  It's that energy that creates the FEMF.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #490 on: March 30, 2014, 03:47:54 PM »
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #491 on: March 30, 2014, 03:58:36 PM »
@MileHigh

Just got back home from late night jamming with 10 musicians all guys I have know for 45 years so I will be looking at your posts (with thanks) more closely today.

Are you considering that the transformer is a three gap E-core possibly running at resonance and not a standard transformer running at 60Hz forced reaction. Do the simulation programs differentiate between these coils types. If not then they may not apply.

There is a certain part of EE that may not consider any re-biasing of the secondary during part of the cycle. When I say re-biasing, maybe via an analogy of a swing, when the swing goes from right to left, the re-bias immediately sends the swing back to the right side so it can have a complete swing on the next release, thus providing a maximum swing on each release without losing momentum that would occur if the swing had to move back to the right hand side on its own.

Is there a way to simulate the copper strip?

I think we should forget the stop switch since this circuit is designed to operate with the stop switch shorted.

I'll be back later.

Where's the coffee.

wattsup


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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #492 on: March 30, 2014, 04:04:29 PM »
I'm sorry but no its not, it doesn't explain femf or bemf.
It does. 
You can see it more clearly if you slow it down or double click on the inductor to edit it and increase its inductance.
Back EMF is the voltage developed across the inductor in opposition to the increase of the current flow through it. 
Forward EMF is the voltage developed across the inductor in opposition to the decrease of the current flow through it.
They can be seen as varying colors of the wires leading to the inductor.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #493 on: March 30, 2014, 04:04:40 PM »
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The colours are showing you the voltages around the loop.  When the switch opens you can see the right side of the coil start to turn green as the discharging coil charges up the capacitor to high voltage.  That's the FEMF.

This is exactly what Im talking about, by looking at the circuit in the conventional view you see femf when actually thats the bemf, you dont see that there is a polarity change as it moves through the diode.

 :-\ oh well i tried.

later
dave

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #494 on: March 30, 2014, 04:08:58 PM »
Dave, in your Falstead sim can you put scope testpoints right at both ends of the coils, and watch the voltage traces there as a pulse happens?
Yes, in this simulation the upper trace is the current flowing through the diode (not reversing!), the middle one is the voltage across a capacitor and the bottom one is the voltage across the inductor.
The latter one reverses polarity between +6V and -12V each cycle in order to oppose attempts to change the current flowing through the inductor.

 

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