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Author Topic: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.  (Read 1154694 times)

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #330 on: March 16, 2014, 05:59:55 PM »
You guy's crack me up, instead of trying to understand the principle of whats happening in the circuit you sit around trying to figure out how they faked it..........why are you even here? ??? ?   go play ping pong or watch tv like the rest of the sleepers.
 
Romero said there's no power regulation on the bottom side of the circuit and C2 C3 and C4 could blow if the load does not match the power output, so be careful.

You need to stop telling people to shove off. In my case I'm trying to be constructive and work out what the last video was all about. Is he trying to show that he has a genuine self-running lamp, or that he has a self designed 'special' inverter that runs his lamp efficiently from a battery, or that he is deliberately trying to mislead by hiding a battery under the circuit board. I'm sure you are no wiser than me as to which of these three options is the truth. You can carry on believing that he must have a self-runner but at the moment I'm of the opinion that he has an inverter that may be efficiently driving his lamp and that coupled to this there is a distinct possibility that he also wishes us to believe that its a self-runner. Neither video is well presented in a technical sense and fails to explain exactly what is being demonstrated!

Offline 4Tesla

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #331 on: March 16, 2014, 07:06:27 PM »
You need to stop telling people to shove off. In my case I'm trying to be constructive and work out what the last video was all about. Is he trying to show that he has a genuine self-running lamp, or that he has a self designed 'special' inverter that runs his lamp efficiently from a battery, or that he is deliberately trying to mislead by hiding a battery under the circuit board. I'm sure you are no wiser than me as to which of these three options is the truth. You can carry on believing that he must have a self-runner but at the moment I'm of the opinion that he has an inverter that may be efficiently driving his lamp and that coupled to this there is a distinct possibility that he also wishes us to believe that its a self-runner. Neither video is well presented in a technical sense and fails to explain exactly what is being demonstrated!

I agree with you Hoppy.  I haven't seen a good video on the 30w device yet.  Specially details on winding the transformer.  I hope that one of us on this thread gets a self runner to give us more confidence in this device.

This video of Akula0083's 1w device, which I believe was recorded by Akula0083 (Roman),  is a lot more convincing; which gives me hope.  (Not saying it couldn't be faked though)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0hB3wcSxYw

Offline Dog-One

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #332 on: March 16, 2014, 07:16:09 PM »
@Grum,

I watched your video where you attempted to get the transformer to ring-up and a thought crossed my mind...

Recall the magnet through the copper pipe experiment--I would bet there is a bunch of ringing going on in there.

Suppose if you took a thin piece of copper foil and wrapped/soldiered it around one side of the E-Core center stem before you inserted it into the bobbin.  Any chance this would promote ring-up?  Willing to give it a shot?

I don't know whether the primary or secondary side would be the best choice or not.  Maybe even across the gap would be worth a test.

Offline 4Tesla

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #333 on: March 16, 2014, 07:21:06 PM »
@Grum,

I watched your video where you attempted to get the transformer to ring-up and a thought crossed my mind...

Recall the magnet through the copper pipe experiment--I would bet there is a bunch of ringing going on in there.

So do you suppose if you took a thin piece of copper foil and wrapped/soldiered it around one side of the E-Core center stem before you inserted it into the bobbin.  Any chance this would promote ring-up?  Willing to give it a shot?

Good thought.  I'm not clear if the copper foil is suppose to be on the outside of the windings or around the core.

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #334 on: March 16, 2014, 07:22:34 PM »
I with Dave45 on this one...no big surprise there huh ?

By letting the children in the playground play, thats how new games are born.

Too much structure, and its the same old game played over and over.

This is truism is not rocket science folks.


Regards...


Offline Dog-One

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #335 on: March 16, 2014, 07:35:38 PM »
Good thought.  I'm not clear if the copper foil is suppose to be on the outside of the windings or around the core.

My thought was that something is hidden from us, so likely the foil would be between the bobbin and the center stem of the E-Core.  Looking at my core and bobbin, there is enough slop in there for just such a thing and if you didn't know about, you may never get this device to work.

Until we know exactly what makes this device operate repeatedly, the leave no stone unturned approach is still valid.

Offline From other Planet

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #336 on: March 16, 2014, 07:55:24 PM »
But u would/should see the wire going to the foil...

Offline 4Tesla

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #337 on: March 16, 2014, 08:11:55 PM »
But u would/should see the wire going to the foil...

Not if connected underneath the transformer.. we only see one side.

Offline Dog-One

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #338 on: March 16, 2014, 08:15:43 PM »
Not if connected underneath the transformer.. we only see one side.

I wouldn't imagine there would be anything connected to the foil.  It would simply be a single turn close-looped winding as seen by the core--maybe enough to create the ringing Grum is looking to find.

I also have no idea of the thickness or width, so we'll have to use our best judgment to start and try some variations to see if this heads in the right direction or not.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #339 on: March 16, 2014, 08:16:31 PM »
Dear All.

I am writing to report a serious error I have just found with the linear ring signal !! 

It would appear that it was noise from my switch mode PSU that was being manipulated and not the air gap as first thought. I have deleted the video in question and would like to offer my sincerest apologies for the mistake.

So it's back to the drawing board !!??

Cheers Grum.

Offline Dog-One

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #340 on: March 16, 2014, 08:21:01 PM »
Dear All.

I am writing to report a serious error I have just found with the linear ring signal !! 

It would appear that it was noise from my switch mode PSU that was being manipulated and not the air gap as first thought. I have deleted the video in question and would like to offer my sincerest apologies for the mistake.

So it's back to the drawing board !!??

Cheers Grum.

No sweat Grum, thanks much for the demo--got me thinking.

Swap it with a good old lead-acid battery and lets try some copper foil tests.   :)


Offline 4Tesla

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #342 on: March 16, 2014, 09:20:48 PM »
I wouldn't imagine there would be anything connected to the foil.  It would simply be a single turn close-looped winding as seen by the core--maybe enough to create the ringing Grum is looking to find.

I also have no idea of the thickness or width, so we'll have to use our best judgment to start and try some variations to see if this heads in the right direction or not.

I believe it is connected to ground/negative in the schematic and open looped (not shorted or small gap).

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #343 on: March 16, 2014, 09:30:37 PM »
I believe it is connected to ground/negative in the schematic and open looped (not shorted or small gap).

I saw that.  What I have to wonder is if that is all there is to it.  Very easy to leave off a tiny but most important piece from a schematic or patent for that matter.

Just an open-loop foil on the outside may not produce the effect I think Grum was looking for, but a closed-loop on the inside...?   Maybe.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #344 on: March 16, 2014, 09:57:59 PM »
I saw that.  What I have to wonder is if that is all there is to it.  Very easy to leave off a tiny but most important piece from a schematic or patent for that matter.

Just an open-loop foil on the outside may not produce the effect I think Grum was looking for, but a closed-loop on the inside...?   Maybe.

Dear Dog-One.

Sorry no, that would create a shorted turn!! Just tried it !!  :)

It is more likely an RFI suppressor or electrostatic collector. It could also create a virtual ground ??

There have also been suggestions about fitting a flywheel diode across the Mosfet however I can say that this supresses the ring completely. There are so many variables to this transformer that I feel without a little more knowledge it's like trying to shoot the bulls eye blindfolded !! Well it's keeping me off the streets that's for sure !!  :)

Cheers Grum.