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Author Topic: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.  (Read 1173501 times)

Offline 4Tesla

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #225 on: March 14, 2014, 01:35:24 AM »
So the actual schematic still hasnt the ground connection on the other side of the voltagedivider and the LED? Seems strange to me. Anyone tested if its working this way? Cant imagine that unless pin 16 of TL494 is able to provide a ground somehow... Or am i totally wrong? Maybe one of  the pros here like verpies or TK can have a look at this and give a statement?

I think wrong schematic In OP.. There are two floating around and the original had ground

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #226 on: March 14, 2014, 01:49:06 AM »
I think wrong schematic In OP.. There are two floating around and the original had ground
If you think the schematic is wrong, then build it your way and share the results. If it works your way
then we'll copy it.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #227 on: March 14, 2014, 01:52:46 AM »
In electrostatic induction the term "ground" can be misunderstood.
A large object can suffice as an electron donor.
This includes the human body, which explains why people can
light bulbs remotely, by holding them.
It can also include the negative terminal of a battery or the case which contains the device.


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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #228 on: March 14, 2014, 02:23:20 AM »
If you think the schematic is wrong, then build it your way and share the results. If it works your way
then we'll copy it.

I am talking about the one the pcb is based on.. There are two versions  of this circuit.. The one in the op was modified from original . and calm down I am working on this just trying to clarify the confusion on the ground

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #229 on: March 14, 2014, 02:35:36 AM »
I am on my phone otherwise I would post it for you.. Perhaps grum can post both versions as he did over at OUR

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #230 on: March 14, 2014, 02:51:27 AM »
So the actual schematic still hasnt the ground connection on the other side of the voltagedivider and the LED? Seems strange to me. Anyone tested if its working this way? Cant imagine that unless pin 16 of TL494 is able to provide a ground somehow... Or am i totally wrong? Maybe one of  the pros here like verpies or TK can have a look at this and give a statement?



Hello From other Planet:

Yes, you are correct, Pin 16 is the Error Amp +in :   It does NOT provide ground it is an input for error amp calculation.

Please see my post #83 ; http://www.overunity.com/14378/akula0083-30-watt-self-running-generator/75/#.UyJU1T9dX7c

The attached photo is of a H-bridge GDT circuit I built to drive the primary of a Tesla Coil.
Yes, it is Common Emitter configuration like the Schematic with the Ground lead to both Pin #16 and the voltage divider.

Wish I knew more about the other schematic that does not have the Ground lead-- guess I would have to build it to see what the deal is, but my first instinct says that you are correct and that the Ground Lead IS necessary in that configuration.

take care, peace
lost_bro

EDIT the photo should say TL494CN not TL4949CN

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #231 on: March 14, 2014, 04:48:53 AM »
Guys,

Can a $2 chepo chinese digital mutimeter set its knob at 20 V DC, charge a lead acid battery converted to lead alum battery, from 9.20 volts to 9.87 volts in 15 minutes.  :-\ :-\

When I am writing this post, the voltage is increasing further. :-\ :-\ :-\

I am confused, whats happening.

Best,

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #232 on: March 14, 2014, 04:56:50 AM »


Hello From other Planet:

Yes, you are correct, Pin 16 is the Error Amp +in :   It does NOT provide ground it is an input for error amp calculation.

Please see my post #83 ; http://www.overunity.com/14378/akula0083-30-watt-self-running-generator/75/#.UyJU1T9dX7c

The attached photo is of a H-bridge GDT circuit I built to drive the primary of a Tesla Coil.
Yes, it is Common Emitter configuration like the Schematic with the Ground lead to both Pin #16 and the voltage divider.

Wish I knew more about the other schematic that does not have the Ground lead-- guess I would have to build it to see what the deal is, but my first instinct says that you are correct and that the Ground Lead IS necessary in that configuration.

take care, peace
lost_bro

EDIT the photo should say TL494CN not TL4949CN

I am a little confused now..  I might be thinking of a different ground than what you're talking about.  I can't see the schematics with my phone.  Anyway it a good idea to see both schematics.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #233 on: March 14, 2014, 05:22:28 AM »
Guys,
 >:( >:( >:( >:(
Can a $2 chepo chinese digital mutimeter set its knob at 20 V DC, charge a lead acid battery converted to lead alum battery, from 9.20 volts to 9.87 volts in 15 minutes.  :-\ :-\

When I am writing this post, the voltage is increasing further. :-\ :-\ :-\

I am confused, whats happening.

Best,

It 10.23 now, and increasing. Picture enclosed.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #234 on: March 14, 2014, 05:40:15 AM »
10.28 volts now.  ;D :o :P :-\

Pic encl.

Best,

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #235 on: March 14, 2014, 05:46:06 AM »
I apologize if this is redundant information--having a heck of a time keeping up with things.

http://realstrannik.ru/forum/temy-atom/134569-qgenerator-na-nelinejnoj-induktivnostiq-rekonstrukcziya-sxemy-i-pechatnoj-platy.html#162067

English translated:
http://www.hyiq.org/Research/Details?Name=Power%20Generator%20in%20the%20Nonlinear%20Inductance

We are talking about the same sort of thing right?  A self running LED flashlight?

I have to say, it sure seems easy enough.  Anyone close?  Better yet, anyone understand what the principal is that makes it possible?

A Vector Potential maybe?

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #236 on: March 14, 2014, 05:52:48 AM »
Here is the schematic. :) :) :) for others to try, but kindly share your results.

Best,

Offline forest

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #237 on: March 14, 2014, 06:42:51 AM »
I simply placed a jumper from pin 16 to ground so I can test both variations.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #238 on: March 14, 2014, 08:15:21 AM »
My batt got fully charged to 13.1 volts and I disconnected everything fearing a blast.  ;D ;D

Best,

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #239 on: March 14, 2014, 10:14:20 AM »
My batt got fully charged to 13.1 volts and I disconnected everything fearing a blast.  ;D ;D

Best,
I think you should post your experiment on the energy amplification forum.
 It would be more appropriate there.