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Author Topic: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.  (Read 1269835 times)

rc3po

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1095 on: May 02, 2014, 10:46:37 AM »
@EMJunkie

Hi. I just started learning about uControllers a few weeks ago. I decided to start with Arduino since it has so much support. They are really cool and save a lot of components & space. It's fun programming
a MC and watching it do what you program it to do!

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1096 on: May 02, 2014, 10:47:21 AM »
Hi All,
Thoughts predicted ferrite core used in the circuit of Akula0083.  NiZn ferrite core that Stefan mentioned here:   http://www.overunity.com/14524/3v-ou-flashlight/msg400860/ # new

Will be reduced somewhat failed experiment in the circuitry Akula, that people are doing. . .

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1097 on: May 02, 2014, 10:51:09 AM »
@EMJunkie

Hi. I just started learning about uControllers a few weeks ago. I decided to start with Arduino since it has so much support. They are really cool and save a lot of components & space. It's fun programming
a MC and watching it do what you program it to do!

Hey rc3po,

For sure, they are good fun! They can do so much once one learns how! Then once one gets sick of that project, more can be done with it later!

Hard to get tired of Microcontrollers.

All the Best

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1098 on: May 02, 2014, 12:49:38 PM »
Here schematic, If you not make exatly like here, then not say, that it not works. But here also maybe something need ajust. Roman something speak about capasitor, who need ajust, but I not understand about that capasitor he speak. Or about C3 or about C13 or maybe about other? Also here is two feedback pachs, one from C5 capasitor, other from C13 capasitor. L3 inductor good be use like in picture ferite ring with tick white wire. It have about 20-30 mikrohenries, maybe 50 uH, but or about 200 or about 100 microhenries is to big, I now not good remeber.
Hi MenofFather,
You have printed circuits from the circuit diagram, please share. There may not need to adjust anything else? Work done on the core windings ferrte? . .

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1099 on: May 02, 2014, 01:26:33 PM »
I've been waiting and waiting for anyone to come up with a ferroresonance pictures and so far, it seems, I have to do it myself.

Feast your eyes on the one attached.
The pulse's frequency is 630 kHz but the response is around 10 Mhz. (the core is a large (2") ferrite ring). Some other cores I've tested are from 600 kH to 1.5 mHz.
As a matter of interest I have ran spectrum analisys on the last one and it goes all the way to 5 Ghz. However, the ripples in the higher band are insignificant. Typically at the level of -27dB to -40dB.

~A

BTW,
the absolute majority of people here are wrong. Finding the resonance is extremely easy. Just shoot a sharp impulse at the core and, hey, presto!
2 resonances (or 22 for that matter) are equally as easy.
I am running sweeping analisys on dual frequencies pulse system but, so far, there is nothing interesting to report.

Hey Avalon,

If I may suggest, be careful that what you're seeing is not Ring Down from the Coil and nothing to do with the Core Material. If the inductance changes too much it can change the Coil Ring down also.

Good Work though!

All the Best

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1100 on: May 02, 2014, 01:33:49 PM »
Hi MenofFather,
You have printed circuits from the circuit diagram, please share. There may not need to adjust anything else? Work done on the core windings ferrte? . .

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I not printed circuit. I dont knwoh that exatly need ajust. But maybe and nothing need ajust, only frenquency. Akula say, that gose пачки импульсов, that means impuls, impuls, impuls.... silents and again impuls, impuls, impuls... And if you make generator who sends this pachki of pulses, then not need maybe that ajusting and no need any fedback, then maybe be easear. If about turns, here not wery important how you wound primary and secondary, just wound good like in standar transformer. Air gap also not wery important, you with it also can little maybe ajust.
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1101 on: May 02, 2014, 01:59:42 PM »
Hi MenofFather,
If I understand correctly, so it is crucial to success, it is true cycles ferrite resonators right? . . I think if only (impuls, impuls, impuls). . like a pulse transformer to increase or decrease the output voltage that! . . did not achieve OU. . .

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1102 on: May 02, 2014, 02:48:23 PM »
Hi MenofFather,
If I understand correctly, so it is crucial to success, it is true cycles ferrite resonators right? . . I think if only (impuls, impuls, impuls). . like a pulse transformer to increase or decrease the output voltage that! . . did not achieve OU. . .
That is resonators? Were maybe be crucial, that is pulse pulse pulse__________pulse pulse pulse___________pulse pulse pulse________ and so on. If only be pulse pulse pulse pulse pulse pulse, without space betwen them, then maybe you newer get overunity with schematic of Akula 30 W. Back pach from C13 makes maybe that spaces, whose gose to pin one of TL494. And back pach of C5 and R5 makes maybe duty cycle of that pulses: make bigger load, it makes longer pulses, make smaller load, it makes shorter pulses. Choke betwen C13 and C11 is not simple filter, it is important thing.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1103 on: May 02, 2014, 03:04:02 PM »
Hi MenofFather,
Thank you.          8)

Havuhung

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1104 on: May 02, 2014, 03:22:37 PM »

Hi Meno,

That is correct, with my device if use a train pulse with no space inbetween my amps go up when adding load. When i use a train pulse with space inbetween and at the right distance my device does not notice it loads connected to it. I have done somany tests to verify this for my self and it does make a big difference.

My pulses are x x . . Or . . x x . .   Without space like x x nothing special happens with my device.

I think it got something to by pulsing on a sub harmonic of the main frequency, and giving it space to breath

Greets JB



That is resonators? Were maybe be crucial, that is pulse pulse pulse__________pulse pulse pulse___________pulse pulse pulse________ and so on. If only be pulse pulse pulse pulse pulse pulse, without space betwen them, then maybe you newer get overunity with schematic of Akula 30 W. Back pach from C13 makes maybe that spaces, whose gose to pin one of TL494. And back pach of C5 and R5 makes maybe duty cycle of that pulses: make bigger load, it makes longer pulses, make smaller load, it makes shorter pulses. Choke betwen C13 and C11 is not simple filter, it is important thing.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1105 on: May 02, 2014, 03:45:35 PM »
JohnnBlade, maybe you need use more lower frenquency of space if you not using any back pach? Or ajust R11 if you using back pachs.Can you make photo of your divice and show that going from Tl494 in oscilioscope photo?

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1106 on: May 02, 2014, 03:48:27 PM »
  Although finding the coil or ferrite core resonant frequency may be a simple matter, this does not guarantee a self running device.  Each coi/core combination will have it's own set of normal running frequencies, but they may not really do anything unusual, as most ave found.
  Dr. Stiffler has mentioned something about a resonant "Spacial Coherence", as being different from the circuits normal running resonant frequency. This may be what we should be aiming for. And not just whatever frequencies are emitted by the coils or cores themselves, as those will be different with each circuit. So, there may be no point tuning to a certain fixed frequency, as that may not be where the extra energy is found, but looking for this spacial coherence factor, instead.
  Check into this Spacial Coherence,  as the Doc was able to light several leds, without  any external input, at all. Possibly this is what may also going on in the low output devices as well as the higher output ones, that people like Akula is showing.
  The Docs findings are not BS, faked, or misleading, and have been replicated to some degree.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1107 on: May 02, 2014, 05:26:52 PM »
yes, I'm staying, I'm  repeating what was told  in conference with Akula:
1) find your transformers core resonance.
...and right off the bat you are very ambiguous.

Namely, what resonance frequency are you writing about?:
1) LCR resonance (what C ?)
2) Standing EM wave resonance inside the core (related to its permeability and permittivity)
3) Nuclear Magnetic or Nuclear Acoustic Resonance
4) Electron Spin Resonance
5) Resonance of acoustic standing waves (a.k.a. "dimensional resonance")
    a) transverse
    b) longitudinal
    c) torsional

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1108 on: May 02, 2014, 05:42:05 PM »
...and right off the bat you are very ambiguous.

Namely, what resonance frequency are you writing about?:
1) LCR resonance (what C ?)
2) Standing EM wave resonance inside the core (related to its permeability and permittivity)
3) Nuclear Magnetic or Nuclear Acoustic Resonance
4) Electron Spin Resonance
5) Resonance of acoustic standing waves (a.k.a. "dimensional resonance")
    a) transverse
    b) longitudinal


2) tune HF generators coil in resonance on 1/2 or 1/4 or 1/8 frequency  transformers core resonance. you need to have 2 resonances at one time. ignorant people don't listen that.
Need found feroresonance. Then ask Akula or it is mechanic vibrations or that, somthing like this, he say, that maybe be and that and that, somthing like this he say, he himself wery good not know that it is resonance. But only here not LC resonance. And core resonance ferite not strongly depeends how much you wound turns, if you 100 meters wound, then sine be рваное, how he say.  :)
I try decode...
Григорий: А у кого-то есть вот дома генератор и осцилиограф на несколько мегагерц?
Акула: Ну, у меня есть. Привет, кстати всем!
Григорий: Да, привет! У тебя понятно, ты ж какбы не хочешь это... раскрывать секрет.
Акула: Нет, ты вообще не прав. Я абсолютно расказал своё видение работы, показал осцилиограммы, дал схемное объяснение. То есть, ребята... а то что я не оспариваю чьи-то мнения, ну это же совершенно другой факт. Почему вы так заявляете, что я не хочу? Я абсолютно всё показал, причём не на одном схематическом решении.
Неизвестный: Ром, (Акула) слушай, раз уж такое дело: как так получаеться, что при ферорезонансе там всплески появляються, когда видео, где частота генерации в районе 20 герц, а частота на ферите около 250 герц и там не синус а именно всплески, от куда там всплески беруться, вот это хотел спросить.
Акула (Рома, Роман): Ну смотрите: у меня ВЧ (высокой частоты) генератор работает именно на частоте ферита. То есть сигналы идут... вот эта микросхемка 34063, она как раз создаёт сигналы, скважность которых не превышает частоту ферита, а равное ему. И вот уже работая на частоте ферита, она формирует низкочастотные колебания общего ЛЦ контура получившегося.
Неизвестный: Счас попробую осмыслить.
Акула: Объясняю: То есть первоначальный генератор ВЧ, он открываеться, допустим, представим, у него же там внутри транзистор есть, так вот у него транзистор открываеться и закрываеться с таким же временем работы ферорезонанса. То есть, когда у нас транзистор на ВЧ генераторе открылся, он не пересекает время работы феромагнита. Поэтому он не жрёт практически ничего, то есть схемы потребление идёт нулевое. Ей лишь только необходимо дополнять электроны, потому что она всё равно их тратит на эти моменты открытия и закрытия транзистора. Проще говоря: вы нашли ферит, допустим частоту, она, допустим равняеться два с половиной (2,5) мегагерца, вот, засекаете время амплитуды пол волны, так вот ваш ВЧ генератор не должен открываться и закрываться дольше, а должен открываться и закрываться согласно этому времени. И уже пачками импульсов, согласно ферорезонансу, мы формируем уже низкочастотные колебания.
...
Григорий: Будет ли опубликованна схема фонарика номер 3? Такой первый вопрос.
Акула: Будет опубликованна, только когда - не знаю.
Неизвестный: А где посмотреть первый, второй, третий?
Акула: Только у тех ребят, здесь и сейчас есть наличие видео, могут перекинуть. У меня, но в принципе... я ссылки давал, они сейчас имеються. Видео находиться в закрытом досткупе, но ссылки имеються. Могу сейчас эти ссылки поместить, этих видео.
Неизвестный: Если можно пожалуйста.
Акула: Да и ещё... а в принципе там по поводу опубликации схемы, ну а что там опубликовывать? Два генератора. Там нечего то и опубликовывать в основном.
Вопрос: Какие частоты идут с каждой ТЛ494 и какая скважность в процентах приблизительно?
Акула: Низкочастотный 50 процентная. ВЧ генератор работает на времени ферорезонанса.
Григорий: ВЧ - это ферорезонанс? Да? То есть пару мегагерц, взависимости от ферита? А низкая частота какая?
Акула: Нет! Там частота может быть и 200 килогерц и 300 килогерц, а скважность этой частоты как раз и равняеться времени ферорезонанса.
Неизвестный: А во, Роман, как объективно увидеть, что ферит вошёл в резонансную свою частоту?
Акула: Ферит не должен входить в резонанс на свою частоту, ребята, вы не увидете там на осцилиограмах нигде амплитуду ферорезонанса. Вы лишь изначально её проверяете для определения времени скважности работы ВЧ генератора.
Неизвестный: То есть получаеться генератор генерирует эти, не помню, 13, ну вобщем, в районе двадцати герц, но со скважностью отностительно ферорезонанса, так получаеться?
Акула: Да, вот этот ВЧ генератор, который у меня на осцилиограммах же был жёлтый, на самом деле он там... частота импульсов следоваиния почти 1 мегагерц, но скважность их ровняеться 3,5 мегагерца, потому что ферит, чашка звенит на 3,5 мегагерца, в районе, в районе этого.
Григорй, следующий вопрос, такая фраза, что значит пришлось подстраивать фронты, выходной транзистор ТЛ генератора трансформации?
Акула: Если низкочастотный генератор, который работет на 50 процентной скважности и формирует низкочастотные колебания, если время открытия транзистора и время закрытия транзистора превысит время ферорезонанса, то вы нарушите работу, основную, ВЧ генератора. Ну это ж логично.
Here decode some part, you can now try translate ewery word and know that exatly saying Roman (Akula).


 
« Last Edit: May 02, 2014, 07:52:53 PM by MenofFather »

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1109 on: May 02, 2014, 06:42:59 PM »
Need found feroresonance. Then ask Akula or it is mechanic vibrations or that, somthing like this, he say, that maybe be and that and that, somthing like this he say, he himself wery good not know that it is resonance. But only here not LC resonance. And core resonance ferite not strongly depeends how much you wound turns, if you 100 meters wound, then sine be рваное, how he say.  :)



........I do *not* understand that the XL, XC resonance spoken of above to be the *type* of resonance that Akula talks of in the tape transcripts.....

Apparently he states many times the word *ferro resonance* and relates it to the type of resonance he *believes* his circuit is experiencing.

I would assume that someone who can design a SMPS type (O.U.????) circuit understands the difference between Ferro resonance and Common XL,XC resonance.

Just more food for thought as I play the devil's advocate ;)

take care, peace
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So again, it is re-iterated that is is *NOT* only the LC inductance of a coil set that is at play here.......

Акула (Рома, Роман): Ну смотрите: у меня ВЧ (высокой частоты) генератор работает именно на частоте ферита. То есть сигналы идут... вот эта микросхемка 34063, она как раз создаёт сигналы, скважность которых не превышает частоту ферита, а равное ему. И вот уже работая на частоте ферита, она формирует низкочастотные колебания общего ЛЦ контура получившегося.

: Well, look : I HF ( high frequency) generator is running at a frequency of Ferit . That is, the signals go ... here this mikroshemka 34063 , it just creates signals duty cycle does not exceed Ferit frequency and is equal to it . And now, working at a frequency of Ferit , it forms a low-frequency oscillation of the LC circuit resulting total .

Unfortunately, its seems Akula does *not* understand exactly which *other* species of resonance is effecting said reaction.

take care, peace
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