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Author Topic: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.  (Read 981983 times)

Offline Marsing

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1065 on: May 01, 2014, 02:41:02 PM »
Emotions... :) Just it does not help to get the truth.
And the truth is simple enough - there is possibility to extract usable energy from matter. And I experienced that myself with max 15W in and 150W bulb lit back in 2011 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-c5zSviuXk
There is no fake in my case. And there was neutron radiation poisoning as side effect which left burns on people after that experiment when we did it without knowing about such possibility...
So think what you like about it.

Hi..   T-1000  or Others

i need some of your comment here..

http://www.overunity.com/14592/side-effect-of-ou-project/

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1065 on: May 01, 2014, 02:41:02 PM »

Offline MenofFather

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1066 on: May 01, 2014, 02:46:06 PM »
I relisten how need wound to find feroresonance. Wound one turn to generator and one turn on pick up (съёмный)If you have more turns, then you on spectr analiser must see this feroresonance frenquency, seems.
 :)


Ok. I try 1 W akula divice (lantern) were he use two generators and two mosfet. In one conference he say, that one frenquency is 4-7 herc. I try, that wery much consuming, about 5 amps on frenquency about 1 kiloherc if conect to 13 turns windings and duty cycle 50 precents. So seems it inposible makeselfrunner with 7 herc and 50 duty cycle. I use long conecting wires and not use PNP transistor to wery fast close mosfet, but bealive, that that not make big changes, so somethere Akula give not true information, probarly.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1067 on: May 01, 2014, 04:43:23 PM »
the conventional engineering are fighting spikes/etc as you just said.
I don't know if I'd call it "conventional engineering", but indeed many electronic engineers do not recycle switching spikes back into the power supply and they simply dissipate their energy as heat in RC or Zener or Transorb "heaters".

To reach energy consumption down to almost 0 a least - you need to recover energy from those spikes and loop it back to the input. So it is opposite to what every engineer is taught how to deal with such things...
I don't think that conventional engineers are not taught how to recycle the energy in these spikes, but I think they are too cheap or lazy to do it.

The technique for recovering the energy in switching transients is well known and is called "lossless clamping".  It requires a second identical parallel winding in the inductor/transformer that is being pulsed.
 
For example: Itsu has built a switcher based on this principle because nasty spikes were damaging his snubber diodes and switching transistors by overvoltage (he has a video of it somewhere) and I had described its operating principle and schematic here.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1067 on: May 01, 2014, 04:43:23 PM »
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1068 on: May 01, 2014, 04:49:08 PM »
I relisten how need wound to find feroresonance. Wound one turn to generator and one turn on pick up (съёмный)If you have more turns, then you on spectr analiser must see this feroresonance frenquency, seems.
 :)


Ok. I try 1 W akula divice (lantern) were he use two generators and two mosfet. In one conference he say, that one frenquency is 4-7 herc. I try, that wery much consuming, about 5 amps on frenquency about 1 kiloherc if conect to 13 turns windings and duty cycle 50 precents. So seems it inposible makeselfrunner with 7 herc and 50 duty cycle. I use long conecting wires and not use PNP transistor to wery fast close mosfet, but bealive, that that not make big changes, so somethere Akula give not true information, probarly.

Can u please attach the drawing? Is it also self runner?

You can't make 7hz on this small coil that you described, so think the possibility of 7Hz to be a beat frequency between the two mosfets..

Offline MenofFather

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1069 on: May 01, 2014, 05:50:00 PM »
Can u please attach the drawing? Is it also self runner?

You can't make 7hz on this small coil that you described, so think the possibility of 7Hz to be a beat frequency between the two mosfets..
No, I not get any selfrunning. Schematic is, that is two generators, one is 20 kiloherc about, other 500 kiliherc[size=78%] [/size][size=78%]about[/size][size=78%] with 45-15 duty cycle, then I get consumption from 12 volts about 0.5 amperes. If I use 7 herc then consumption be maybe 20 amperes or more. I use almost same windings like in Akula divice. One were going 500 about kiloherc have 7 turns, other primary 13 turns and secondary about 19 turns. Throt one diode gose from secondary to plus, other end of secondary go tu minus. I use one generator TS555, other TL494. Then i made low frenquency, then i get about 4 amps consumption and burn shotky diode who going from secondary to plus. Then I put UF5404. And I made fast closing and other transistor, then consumption little drops. I also made shorter conection wires. I try change frenquences from one end to other, one and other and of TL494 change duty cycle. Then i changing one of frenquency sometimes I get diferent sounds, sometimes it like low sound, sometimes like highter. So not enought information from akula, need know, that diodes he use, need know frenquency and duty cycle of one and another generator. I use core like he, from flayback transformer. He must meashure frenquency and duty cycle of one and other generator, not say suggestions.[/size]

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1069 on: May 01, 2014, 05:50:00 PM »
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1070 on: May 01, 2014, 08:08:50 PM »
edited... wrong questions...

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1071 on: May 01, 2014, 08:28:50 PM »
Well, if you would speak Russian and listen latest teamspeak recording.. the rebuilding of circuit would be a lot more easy. It was explained there how circuit is supposed to work and what effect needs to be aimed for.

... and yet there are no replications. Also, Roman's explanations regarding the working principle behind his circuit are gobbledygook at best.
For instance, he says that in his dual generators version the first one generates the signal 'at the ferroresonant frequency' and the other one has the duty cycle of ferroresonance'.  ??? :-\

May I also remind you that Roman has failed to make a working circuit when he was invited to go to Germany to demonstrate.
I am saying this not to accuse him of cheating but simply pointing to the fact that he's struggling to make it work as well.



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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1071 on: May 01, 2014, 08:28:50 PM »
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1072 on: May 01, 2014, 09:11:36 PM »
@ the ignorant people always  open the wrong doors.
What you see on the few minutes video? - finished job. but you don't see weeks or months of the authors works while tuning his device and he knew what he was doing. You don't listen what is told to you and you have a shit. yes that's fast and easy - shit is everywhere.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1073 on: May 01, 2014, 09:25:49 PM »
TK! You in a bad mood today?

Cheer Up and try to be positive! Like I said, I am going to breadboard it first, and then when I have it working, my circuit will only need a layout done!

All the Best

  Chris

Yes, I am getting irritated. Or maybe irradiated, by this silly circuit. I am glad you are not omitting the prototype stage. But what is your definition of "working"? If you are using the same definition I am.... working means keeping on keeping on with bright LEDs long after the power is pulled. In which case... no worries Mate, as they say in South.... deep south.... Texas.

BTW, do you think that some of the problems MoF is encountering could be the result of the issues you pointed out about the posted schematics? I have better things to blow up mosfets with..... so I don't want to power anything up until I understand why his transistors and diodes are popping.


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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1073 on: May 01, 2014, 09:25:49 PM »
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1074 on: May 01, 2014, 09:31:47 PM »
@ the ignorant people always  open the wrong doors.
What you see on the few minutes video? - finished job. but you don't see weeks or months of the authors works while tuning his device and he knew what he was doing. You don't listen what is told to you and you have a shit. yes that's fast and easy - shit is everywhere.
I have some experience in these matters, as do a few other people on this forum. Any of us can point to cases where an experimenter works for weeks and months trying to improve the efficiency of his or her device, by that final little few percent that will take it "over unity" and make it a self runner. Eventually they become frustrated, or greedy, or just want to demonstrate something on YouTube, and they notice that only a tiny bit of outside power is needed to make their carefully developed efficient device _look like_ it is performing in an overunity manner, running itself or whatnot.

Fast and easy shit? Shit everywhere? Have you washed YOUR hands lately? Because  for the most part people posting here on this forum and on this thread are doing good work, verifiable, repeatable and with great understanding of fundamentals both conventional and speculative, and they are reporting it accurately and honestly.

Others...
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1075 on: May 01, 2014, 09:40:36 PM »
@TK

If the TL494 can do up to 800KHz, why is it stuck at 300KHz? That was my question in posts past.
TI rates their chips very conservatively. I would trust a genuine TI TL494 chip to run at the _rated max_ 300 kHz stably essentially forever throughout the data sheet's specified temperature and voltage supply range, conforming to the performance graphs in the data sheet.

Just because an insane experimenter or two can figure out how to use the chip at 400 or 800 kHz doesn't mean you should bet your life on it. One of the things I've noticed about these several circuits is that the chips are operated at or outside the limits of the rated performance envelope. Using a TTL chip with a 3 volt supply? Excuse me?

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Also just posted this at OUR.

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@ION

Thanks for your reply but let me articulate my point with this photo below.

Here you see the actual size of ETD-29 that fits both circuit boards compared to an ETD-34, which is still very small and also fits
the circuit boards. Consider that the ETD-29 ecore is being asked to dish out a good 30 something watts plus looping energy and
compare this to the ccore used in the v3 device that's only putting out a few watts. There is no logic possible to explain any more
clearly.

@All

I have ordered some ETD-54 - Type 87 non-gapped to do my tests. If you are using the ETD-29, maybe consider changing your
load to not more then 2-3 watts to start and then there may be some small changes required in the circuit to lower the overall
throughput. Maybe put just enough load so when the circuit is energized (large caps full) and when the power is removed, the
leds would take at least 2-3 seconds to turn off. That would be one way to choose maximum load with the ETD-29. 

Come to think of it, this one core size comparison, that I did not realize earlier until I had an ETD29 in my hands, now confirms
to me that the x-named41 video was faked 2000%. That little ecore that he held between his fingers, like I have in my hand
right now, could never do the job he is purporting. Wrong core size. So he just spiked his circuit board from under the panel and
faked it, like I had already shown.

It takes time to figure things out. On the way, we discover new aspects that then build on others. Call it a process. If you are
running the AK30 board, you will require more core if yo want to produce the design output.

wattsup
UNQUOTE

Once my larger Ecores arrive I am going to completely disregard the pulse generation part of the circuit because this for me is
not important and I do not trust the Akula schematic. As I show in the below simplified schematic where the real effect can be
properly hunted down.

If with this set-up, the system keeps looping when I remove the battery and the leds are well lit, even if I use my FG on the
mosfet gate, this will at least confirm that looping is possible and then with this once the main frequency is established, this
should then run on its own with a much simpler gate circuit.

wattsup

PS: Had to force carriage returns at the end of lines to make the text not run off the page.
No, if you are using a FG on the mosfet gate, you have to be very careful that the FG isn't powering anything. Some people might not believe that a mosfet gate can leak significant current to/from Drain and Source when the mosfet is operating properly. Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKF1r6vwUpI

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1076 on: May 01, 2014, 09:43:20 PM »
... and yet there are no replications. Also, Roman's explanations regarding the working principle behind his circuit are gobbledygook at best.
For instance, he says that in his dual generators version the first one generates the signal 'at the ferroresonant frequency' and the other one has the duty cycle of ferroresonance'.  ??? :-\

May I also remind you that Roman has failed to make a working circuit when he was invited to go to Germany to demonstrate.
I am saying this not to accuse him of cheating but simply pointing to the fact that he's struggling to make it work as well.



~A

A very important post, bears repeating.
Struggling to make it work, though..... I dunno about that. Look at how many different things work .. for him .. at home. Surely he understands one of them well enough to make it work somewhere else.

Or maybe he understands that stage magic illusions aren't appropriate for close-up table magic demonstrations.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5k0KqMBYh8

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1077 on: May 01, 2014, 09:55:52 PM »
Recycling energy of switching spikes due to leakage inductance in a switchmode power supply was the subject matter of many published engineering featured articles and papers back when I was designing switchers for a living in the 80's and 90's .

Many of us were trying to figure advanced techniques to capture that bit of energy rather than waste it in snubbers and MOV's.

It seems to be a lost art these days.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1078 on: May 01, 2014, 10:00:47 PM »
 and they are reporting it accurately and honestly,
but ignorant people don't listen them and are doing useless work, verifiable, repeatable and with great understanding of fundamentals both conventional and speculative but without OU

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #1079 on: May 02, 2014, 12:10:42 AM »
and they are reporting it accurately and honestly,
but ignorant people don't listen them and are doing useless work, verifiable, repeatable and with great understanding of fundamentals both conventional and speculative but without OU

... and the Sun shines in purest delight when roosters nest without looking sad....Here comes OU.

We too can bullshit just fine.
Can we please just stay on the subject.

~A

 

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