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Offline kEhYo77

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Re: Arc Flash and Free Energy
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2015, 08:27:39 PM »
Hi.


What about placing a spark gap inside a toroid coil e.i. current transformer?
I imagine an air core or a ferrite toroid but with an air gap (made with dremel plus a thin blade) step-down style transformer:
many thick two-turns (preferably Litz wire), wound side by side along all the core surface, connected in parallel to
full wave bridge and a HV cap.


If the avalanche effect is creating more dense current in the immediate vicinity of the arc then it is logical
that magnetic field around that air/aether piece of plasma containing, conducting path will be amplified as well.


I recently bough a small HV power source operated from 12VDC for making ionised/ozonated ICE intake air treatment
so I should be able to try it. The module is pretty unique (some guy makes them by hand, available only in Poland I guess),
it draws little current an has got a short circuit protection. It outputs HV AC : Purple looking arcs streaching up to 10mm 8)

EDIT: Here is somewhat relevant video from another thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3piSivMXsdQ

Keep experimenting people! :)
SAFETY FIRST!  ;D


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Re: Arc Flash and Free Energy
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2015, 08:27:39 PM »

Offline dieter

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Re: Arc Flash and Free Energy
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2015, 01:48:11 AM »
@Bob, yes, the bug zapper runs on 3 Volt, by batteries or a dc transformer.


If you have watched my short video, take a look at the diagram. The first gap is tiny, but even here we get some multiplication, but it would be dissipated in the environment and recombined with lurking ions without that inductive load: a 230 to 12 V stepdown transformer, the core is removed and it is hooked up reversely, so it steps the voltage up further: both, the pulse and the BEMF, which is already higher than the pulse.


Then the output of this stepup transformer goes to the second sparkgap. It is bigger and it's aligned parallel to the first one, but in opposite direction (who knows, maybe that has an impact too). But what I am doing now with this secondary avalanche is what's really weird: It is shortened right to the other end of the transformer, so whatever avalanche is kicked loose will be fed right into the same inductive circuit as a booster, with almost zero resistance. Nevertheless, the additional connection right after the sparkgap to the real ground had enough power to fry my multimeter. (don't use meters, instead guess voltage by arc length an check current with heavy loads like inductive heating elements)


If we see the shortened stepup transformer as an oscillator that is able to overshoot its own energetical potential by freely running / ringing, it becomes clear that the additional ground may act as a huge electron reservoir, for both, to dump the electrons and to provide them during a polarity reversal due to the BEMF.


There is a tube guy, I guess Igor (woloz?) , search Igor SGG, he made some cool tests with cascades of avalanches, like several flybacks in series, starting with 6 vdc, and finally achieveing 1 inch arcs, constant ones, not the frequent breakdown of a cap. There is clearly multiplication involved.


Current flow is about free electrons. A conductor contains a number of them, the unbound ones. An inductive generator chases them trough the coil, moves them, makes the current flow. Who cares where they come from.


In the electron avalanche high energy electrons collide with air. On collision there will be the old electron, a new electron and an ion. The air gets ionized, that ain't a secret. The ions get seperated by the electrons. But the ions are much bigger and therefor slower than the electrons. The electrons reach the anode earlier, where they can be "adsorbed", obviously by an inductive load.


As mentioned, the avalanche characteristics are a binary multiplication, so the longer the gap, the bigger the gain, eg.: 1mm = 200%, 2mm= 400%, 3mm=800%, 4mm=1600%... just as a sample of binary multiplication, but the rate is even higher due to additional factors like selfillumination by uv emission of the spark etc.


There are various ways to suppress, trigger and stop the arc, so the desired overvoltage situation (eg. kicking 16kV over 5mm gap) can be achieved, one is an air flow, just some cool air by a fan. An other is a magnetic quench. A static magnetic field suppresses the arc initiation in general, a pulsed one could be used as a trigger. A third method is a mechanical oscillation of the gap length, which may be most reliable at low rates.




This is the kind of energy gain, the grid engineers usually try to avoid and get rid of because it is capable of exploding huge transformers... and then the same people say there is no free energy... of course, they wanna sell it. So THEIR energy is never for free.


@kEhYo, interesting experiment, since some say the center of a toroid coil is where the longitudinal wave is emitted (if it exists).


Take care everybody, even when we play with tiny power sources for the devices, in case our approaches are a success, things get real dangerous.


BR










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Offline dieter

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Re: Arc Flash and Free Energy
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2015, 03:36:05 AM »
Actually, it's Igor Woroz, this guy has a lot of cool videos, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHZ_jtHE-r0


Here's some information about breakdowns, mainly from the perspective of somebody, trying to prevent damage due to the avalanche, nevertheless verifying the underlying theorem:
www.sayedsaad.com/High_voltge/insulating_gases/insulating_gases_5.htm


Note the part where they say the current may increase up to 10^7 Amperes per cm2 at a certain moment during breakdown, while the voltage drops only marginally.
Further information:


www.sayedsaad.com/High_voltge/insulating_gases/insulating_gases_4.htm


www.pureenergysystems.com/os/EdGrayMotor/PM_PEM_MG/theory/spark/mechanism_electrical.htm


I'd also like to say that Gary Magratten has a new patent for a motor that is avalanche driven (seen on pesn), that's pretty smart. Tho, Anode corrosion must be handled somehow, but a motor may offer various ways to frequently brush the Anode...


It seems a bit odd that Magratten says he's supported by the US DOE and the also sells the plans, but as the avalanche "anomaly" is definitely a real thing, I think this thing'got potential.


A further thought is : plasma in LENR. What happens in the air may very well happen in water as well, which could explain a range of phenomena associated with socalled cold fusion. Even tho such plasma does not arc fully to the anode and recombination of electrons and ions in water may cause heat effects.


BR




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Re: Arc Flash and Free Energy
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Arc Flash and Free Energy
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2015, 04:41:29 AM »
Actually, it's Igor Woroz, this guy has a lot of cool videos, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHZ_jtHE-r0


(snip)
BR

Actually it's Igor Moroz, isn't it?
Notice the power supply going crazy in the background when he's showing the little sparks.

Here's my version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XRwlNCF1PU
Of course I'm using a little more input voltage.

And another one, a Tesla coil using an ordinary flyback transformer as the primary power supply, running on 24 volts from batteries:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXsChNrBn5I

Offline pomodoro

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Re: Arc Flash and Free Energy
« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2015, 08:21:53 AM »
When does a spark give rise to an avalanche of any significance? Is it not a short lived arc? The initial  streamer of a few uA perhaps, but the main discharge is thermionic or Field Emission only.

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Offline dieter

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Re: Arc Flash and Free Energy
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2015, 03:17:42 PM »
Why do you ask when you think you know everything better?


For some reason I feel like you are on a personal crusade against me. If you are not interested in this topic, then just back off.

Offline pomodoro

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Re: Arc Flash and Free Energy
« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2015, 04:35:58 PM »
Take a chill pill dude, anyone can answer this.

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