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Author Topic: Gravity seems to yield unequal results.  (Read 15053 times)

isodecryptor

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Re: Gravity seems to yield unequal results.
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2014, 05:08:15 PM »
if you would like the best results for a simple setup, make the outside weights equal to the middle weight, and expect no more than a theta of 45 degrees in respect to the height.

isodecryptor

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Re: Gravity seems to yield unequal results.
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2014, 04:49:30 AM »
I have some strange results in my simulation for physion. I used the same weights on middle and outsides, a rolling circle and two springs that are holding the on the outside to the ground. I am not sure how realistic this software is but it is moving perpetually. I dont think it is trickery, or at least I hope not!, otherwise, it is very interesting and I am going to post it now. NO motors are in this system and all settings were on default. I re ran the simulation several times and the results came back to this perpetual movement. At least it is very interesting and worth taking a look. I will upload the file so you can have a look. I really hope the springs have some realistic calculations in there.

https://www.mediafire.com/?dk97mbnc9n3bdv5
« Last Edit: July 02, 2014, 08:03:25 AM by isodecryptor »

isodecryptor

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Re: Gravity seems to yield unequal results.
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2014, 05:49:41 AM »
I have changed the spring constants k to many different values and it still remains in perpetual motion. What could this software not be calculating. There is the spring constants, elasticity, and friction.

isodecryptor

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Re: Gravity seems to yield unequal results.
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2014, 08:00:13 AM »
Here it is with the higher spring constant of 50. It works with the other but very slowly. https://www.mediafire.com/?dk97mbnc9n3bdv5

isodecryptor

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Re: Gravity seems to yield unequal results.
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2014, 09:34:02 AM »
Here is another one using just springs instead of outside weights! I really think that they need to update their software or I have an idea why it is doing this. I really think their is another force that is assisting this setup. The cscx has strange asymptotic behavior and springs force change with it. .  https://www.mediafire.com/?dk97mbnc9n3bdv5

isodecryptor

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Re: Gravity seems to yield unequal results.
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2014, 11:12:30 AM »
I turned the friction up as far as it would go and all the dampings, including the spring damping and this thing is still doing it's perpetual thing! I have sped the time all the way up and not a single change in it's functioning. Makes me worry a little bit, or maybe cscx is still working?

isodecryptor

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Re: Gravity seems to yield unequal results.
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2014, 02:18:58 PM »
This video should blow your mind. It is exactly what I was thinking. http://youtu.be/J_tu5vB17Ws
Tell me why you think it wont work.

ARMCORTEX

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Re: Gravity seems to yield unequal results.
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2014, 12:36:49 AM »
You think this is is the kind of work that will make a generator run ?!  ;D

Allow me to put your brain to good use.

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Re: Gravity seems to yield unequal results.
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2014, 10:00:40 AM »
What you did is gonna take me a few weeks of study, I was looking for some layman papers on the subject and remembered this asstastic thread.

I wonder how much Chas Campbell knew about this, probably none of it.

I'll have to brg this to the beach while I'm on vacation. Thx for the work, nerd, even tho you piss me off.


isodecryptor

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Re: Gravity seems to yield unequal results.
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2014, 03:57:26 PM »
Please review it. I am happy to hear anything about it. But wish it not to be simply generalized, because the main variable here would be elasticity, which is not a constant of nature but a variable among materials.

isodecryptor

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Re: Gravity seems to yield unequal results.
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2014, 04:00:35 PM »
In a perfect model this would indeed be true, all the way around. But, perfection is not necessary.