I'll clarify my position.

I have as of this point in time, built 3 different measuring devices, in order to test if indeed there is a difference in

the work required to separate two magnets in attraction by rotation
.....and
the work to  separate those magnets by directly pulling them apart.

The question I at first had in mind was ...  did it only appear to be easier to twist them apart, due to the mechanics of human hands, wrists and so on ? or was there actually a  difference.

The  first of my three devices could only measure the peak forces of each of these two scenarios.   
The difference in those peak values was   > 19% .  Hence the name of this topic.

The second device was a modification of the first device which allowed measurements of the varied force (as weight applied)  at increments of distance.

After a series of blunders  due to my lack of  understanding of

the process of integrating a changing force over distance,
     and
also incorrect interpretation of graphs of those forces.

I hit the books.  Things are very different at this time, my knowledge base has expanded very considerably.
..............................
Additionally, I now have an accurate device (device number 3) for making those measurements.

The SL work is more than  173%  greater than  RO not merely  19% ... I have no doubt of this, as  I have measured and pondered this many times now.  I also understand that this is basically unbelievable.

As to, is this is possible or  not  and   how could  it possibly work, 

                          I CARE NOT EVEN ONE TINY BIT at his point in time.

As to whether others should  believe my claims ?  No... I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD.  I DO think they should see for their selves.   If my presentations have been inadequate toward the goal of inspiring others to that end, I do apologize.

If the reader realizes that his skills and or resources are inadequate to the task, that's  ok.. 

But If you cannot do muster excellence,  in either confirmation or refutation of my findings, is would be far far better just to stay out of the way.  I do a good enough job of cluttering up the topic with out any ones help.

                                 best wishes
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test,just wanted a link back to this thread.triffid

Hi Lumen

Here is some relevant info.

First, working with RO  at  32 deg. off from parallel  cuts done  the
distance traveled  by SL, before SL is beyond significant influence from RO.

This was done because   MY TD unit has limited SL range of travel.
In order to arrive at a distance where in...  SL is "free" from RO,  but also
RO is "free" from SL  I needed to keep RO to no more than Around 30
degrees from parallel.   

In  other words...  in order to find the distance at which at which RO can be
FREELY rotated to parallel,  would have been a greater distance than
then the length of the sliding rails used in my version of a TD unit.   

All this gives us information about the interactions, but again is a kind of back
wards approaching of the interactions.  Still, it gives us perspectives we might
not immediately have noticed other wise.

Notching the SL matters....  IF one is looking at / running  the TD unit Back wards !
notching the SL matters..... but is not necessary at all, if one is operating the TD
with RO as input and SL as out put.


         Good questions
               floor

I think I have found a compatable theory for the energy source.

             Phlogiston !

                         smile
                               floor

Thanks for the update Lumen.

                 regards
                          floor

@Low-Q

QUOTE from Low-Q "If theory and practice doesn't add up, we must throw away the theory -  "END QUOTE

You bring up good points. 

I am NOT proceeding from the theoretical to the empirical..  This whole endeavor has been 
based only upon observations and measurements.

I have only some vague ideas / observations as to why there is difference in the work RO to work SL.

1. It would seem to violate conservation, but once it is understood, probably doesn't ?

2. Any two magnets interacting in either predominantly attraction or repulsion, actually are
influenced by both, some attraction and some repulsion.  In the TD magnet configuration.
the ratios of attraction and repulsion are different under the conditions of rotation as
compared to a direct approaching ?

3. The configuration  /  interactions ,gives rise to some form of magnetic shielding ?

However, I am NOT proceeding from the theoretical to the empirical..  This whole endeavor has been 
based only upon observations and measurements.

Those measurements are of some of the most basic and simple physical properties.

My measurements and processes are either correct (within an acceptable margin)
 or
they are in error. 

The conclusion are self evident.

@Lumen

No worries, but,I don't understand the force inbteractions and or motions in your drawings.

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@Lumen

See the questions on the Picture Below.

I was looking at my RO unit in terms of how much effort for me to
mount a ceramic magnet in "Lumen's" face to face alignment. 
I would have to replace the RO magnet - mount with something more
universal as well.

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