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### Author Topic: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2  (Read 101859 times)

#### Floor

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##### Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #180 on: December 17, 2016, 11:48:11 PM »
@luc

Looking forward to it.

floor

#### norman6538

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##### Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #181 on: December 18, 2016, 01:17:34 AM »
More on the closer stronger - further weaker problem.
If you have a magnet that will lift a 1 lb weight 1/8 inch I call that
1 unit of work. But if you move that 1 lb to 1/4 inch it likely will not
lift the 1 lb weight but it might lift a 1/2 lb weight and that I call
a half unit of work and the way I get that extra half unit of work is to
use a variable lever that has greater leverage to lift that 1/2 lb weight
before it lifts the 1 lb weight. And that is done by making the weakness
of the magnet at the greater distance to be stronger with more leverage
at that spot.
Picture the variable lever to be a small lever with a fulcrum halfway from the center.
when the lever is tilted 45 degrees the leverage is closer to 1:1 because the
true leverage (variable lever) is the distance to the center measured by a plumb line but when it is horizontal the short end is at a leverage disadvantage.

That small extra advantage can push you into OU.

Norman

#### gotoluc

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##### Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #182 on: December 18, 2016, 04:16:12 PM »
Hi Norman,

I'm trying to understand where your post fits to what has been demonstrated. Care to be a little more specific as to who's test device you're referring to and then where you see what you've described fits.

Regards

Luc

#### Floor

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##### Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #183 on: December 18, 2016, 08:05:30 PM »
@norman6538

What Gotoluc is speaking to, is that we are trying to keep THIS topic and the "TD replications"
topic specifically for examination of the "TD unit".

physics and measurement process and for more general magnet discussions
http://overunity.com/16954/magnets-motion-and-measurement/

I love to have more discussions with you upon these other, and more

Sorry, I've let this topic slip away from it's specific intended purpose.

Gotoluc is doing a "TD" based presentation @

http://overunity.com/16987/td-replications/

I have asked Lumen "the other replication presenter" if he would make a new topic specific to
his replication (for the clarity and ease of his presentation) but he is still busy else where
at this time.

regards
floor

#### Floor

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##### Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #184 on: December 18, 2016, 08:07:50 PM »
Please find the 2 attached files "PassThru 3-1.png" and "PassThru 3-2.png"

floor

#### Floor

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##### Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #185 on: December 18, 2016, 08:09:43 PM »
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#### gotoluc

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##### Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #186 on: December 19, 2016, 04:06:02 AM »
WOW for sure floor!

you've just shared the magnet geometry I've been testing for the past 2 days which I was going to use in my 2nd test device since it is very effective in torque transfer.
So you came to the same conclusion without us even talking or sharing about it. Kind of ruined my surprise but that's okay

Your introduction of a cylinder between the magnets is very interesting to say the least!... I had not thought about that.

Would a plain Iron cylinder work between the inner and outer magnet or are you suggesting it be a magnet as well?

You're really raising the bar now and giving much food for thought.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

#### Floor

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##### Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #187 on: December 20, 2016, 08:54:43 PM »
@Gotoluc

A few confessions to make...

My goals

Trying to keep this patent free.. so some times I'm making quick
moves in posting... with the goal of beating any (some ones) who might
make a quick patent filing of the next step in the process...
and which they (silently perhaps, are seeing as well as we are).
I just think that MAYBE  this is too important to be held by just
one person ? (includes me).
........
Some times stating the basics, the obvious and so on.. and this may appear as if I am
talking down to others.  or "boasting my Knowledge".......but most people reading
our posts, have not and will not ever comment.     Very  many are as much a beginner
as am I.  I would like the subject to remain as "available to all",
what ever "level" they are on.

I might tend to worry over this project overly much, while trying to remain objective
at the same time, (sorry).

I am learning a lot from the company I have been keeping here and appreciate this.
......................................................
Honestly I believe this adventure has been a product of a unity, or a kind of over unit.

While the feeling that this is my discovery has some appeal to me, I cant honestly
consider the discovery as being my own.  Seems more like that, there is a beehive mind
available when we are in tune.  But this hasn't diminished the joy of discovery.
........................

NEXT

Three layers of just 2 magnets each, instead of cylinders,
would work out, I think ?

God rest ye merry gentlemen.
Joy of the season to us all.
floor

#### Floor

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##### Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #188 on: December 21, 2016, 04:55:45 PM »

Non cylindrical magnets.

Cylinder magnets like those in the "PasThru 3-1" and "PasThru 3-2" drawings
might be a little bit hard to come by

please find the attached file "PassThru 3-3. PNG"

floor

#### Floor

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##### Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #189 on: December 22, 2016, 01:28:19 PM »
Hard to catch all the errors some times.

apologies

floor

#### Floor

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##### Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #190 on: December 23, 2016, 11:24:02 PM »
Maybe some people missed  this pdf file.

http://overunity.com/14311/work-from-2-magnets-19-output-2/msg496816/#msg496816

« Reply #175 on: December 04, 2016, 06:26:01 AM »

"4 pole 45 deg .PDF"

#### Floor

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##### Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #191 on: December 25, 2016, 04:18:42 PM »
Merry XMas
Please find the 2 attached PNG files
floor

#### Floor

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##### Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #192 on: December 25, 2016, 04:25:10 PM »
Personal Message
from Lumen to floor

Re: (No subject)
Sent to: Floor on: Today at 06:19:07 AM »

(in part)

"Hi floor,
At this time I remain somewhat skeptical even though the testing I have done appears to indicate some energy gain in the results.
I have been delayed from further testing by other tasks......"

thanks Lumen
floor

#### Floor

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##### Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #193 on: December 27, 2016, 04:35:21 PM »

Please find the attached file below "TheMatrixHasYourNeos" PDF

Cheers

#### Floor

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##### Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #194 on: December 28, 2016, 06:54:01 AM »
SIMPLIFIED

Please find the attached file "PassThru 5. PDF"