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Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #495 on: March 05, 2014, 06:58:50 AM »
One of the unique discoveries with the ZED Layered system - is the concentration of buoyancy.

Anyone want to discuss that? - it is really cool.

Wayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #496 on: March 05, 2014, 06:59:02 AM »
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In 2008, I discovered how to turn Buoyancy "off and on" very quickly, very cheaply, regardless of the force required.

Are you falling behind, Mags? The full quote and the url reference are on the previous page.


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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #497 on: March 05, 2014, 07:02:07 AM »
The innocent need no defense - really.

You have quoted lies that TK has spread at least twice now - please do your own research.

It was very clearly explained, by me to TK, and thee rest of the forum, that The grant committee sent me to a third party - and did not give me the grant - and that plan was not funded.

But he suckered you into calling me a liar.

I am sorry for that.

You are backing the wrong guy.

Wayne
Either you are fully funded or you are not, Wayne Travis. How could "I" be lying when I have put up your entire powerpoint slide show, and then pointed out that TODAY, long since you have been "fully funded", there is still no 50 kW powerplant at the church? I did say, after all, that nobody in the group you gave the presentation to "bit". So just where and how did I lie.... but more importantly..... look at all the places YOU have lied!

The internet never forgets, Wayne Travis. Many of your old newsletters are still publicly viewable even though you have tried to suppress them. See the previous page.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #497 on: March 05, 2014, 07:02:07 AM »
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Offline Magluvin

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #498 on: March 05, 2014, 07:05:25 AM »
November 15, 2013:


If you look carefully over the years, Travis has gone from claiming a working free energy machine that will save the world, and a patent, in the early days, all the way "forward" to claiming a business plan, objectives to be met, and patent applications, today.
 
Now _that's_ progress !

It takes near 5 years for many many many people to come up with a new playstation version. And each new model is only an improvement of the previous design. All just to play games and make money. ;)   

Mags

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #499 on: March 05, 2014, 07:06:28 AM »
The Zed has segregated surface area's - and we can control how much effect each is contributing to the lift during a production stroke, and how they contribute to the exhuast pressure on the down stroke.

It is a liquid piston technology,

The ability to change the size of the effective surface area at will.

The effective surface area - is directly responsible for the pressure required for lift, the production

And directly responsible for the pressure produced during the sink.

A big piston on the way up and a small piston on the way down -

NOW Here is the kicker - same volume and time both directions..

Any one want to discuss that?

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
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Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #500 on: March 05, 2014, 07:08:16 AM »
Are you falling behind, Mags? The full quote and the url reference are on the previous page.

Really - lol did you think about that???

adding and removing displacement is turning gravity off and on... lol

You are so silly

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #501 on: March 05, 2014, 07:10:53 AM »
Are you falling behind, Mags? The full quote and the url reference are on the previous page.

Nope. Submarines been doing 'that' for a long time.  Mark specified 'gravity'. Is there no difference???

"Wayne Travis admits that "gravity is always on".  Yet he claims to be able to switch it on and off.  Someone read "Slapstick"."

No link necessary. ;)

Mags

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
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Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #502 on: March 05, 2014, 07:13:32 AM »
Either you are fully funded or you are not, Wayne Travis. How could "I" be lying when I have put up your entire powerpoint slide show, and then pointed out that TODAY, long since you have been "fully funded", there is still no 50 kW powerplant at the church? I did say, after all, that nobody in the group you gave the presentation to "bit". So just where and how did I lie.... but more importantly..... look at all the places YOU have lied!

The internet never forgets, Wayne Travis. Many of your old newsletters are still publicly viewable even though you have tried to suppress them. See the previous page.

TK,

That was so many years ago - I do not even know when lol

No - we did not get funding from that power point - we had a TK in the room claiming I must be a fraud - p.s. he was fired later.

TK every time you make your silly threats - who are you talking to, yourself?

I always tell it like it is , as it is, at the time it is....

Let me guess - you never wore diapers - well I did, and I said I did at one time - and things change.

I don't now - so why don't you look me up in thirty years and call me a liar when I put on a pair then.

So silly.


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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #503 on: March 05, 2014, 07:15:19 AM »
December 6, 2012:

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5.    TAZ – The second Diamond:
 of this system is the Mass momentum of the system, it is captured during the end of the tilt - and that energy is returned to reverse the direction.
 The output is in pressure and volume - it can be removed in the form of air or water.
The system has a minimum pressure to maintain the proper internal orientation of the system currently 8 psi the output is varied by the pressure desired - if you were to output 13 psi you will have 4000 cubic inches of fluid or air - per tilt.In this set up - this give you 4000 cubic inches of volume with 5 psi usable force - In simple terms - that is 20,000 inch pounds output - per tilt.
We produce on both direction by offsetting two sets of "layers" 65 Degrees - On the TAZ - we call the "layers" - Loops. Currently - we are not yet "closed looped" with the TAZ - but the input and output is measurable........................The current undeveloped output of the system is Air and pressure or Water and pressure.
So in its most basic form - we have an New Energy pumping system.
 What you do with the pump or its output is limited to our ability to imagine purpose.
 As electrical production as its "use" "it will over come the cost of wind (electrical) generation, and solve the reliability issues with other sources of natural energy.....first.
It can be used for agricultural pumping, air moving such as mining, hooked to a standard pressure increaser - it could be used to provide hydraulic power - All fuel and emission free for as long as you desire.........................
Our input Energy to our TAZ is currently hydraulic - we use 700 psi and between 2 and 4 cubic inches (depends on output desire)
 and we can currently safely run 3.5 dual tilts per minute -
providing a volume of 4000 cubic inches out put per 2 to 4 cubic inches input.
 3.5 spm x dual system x 4000ci = 28,000 cubic inches out put Water or 121gpm @t 5 psi = Output
 3.5spm x dual system x 4ci = 28ci or 12% of one gallon or .12gpm @ 700psi = input.

 A normal cycle is one set of the "loops" tilting from the 85 degree position to the 20 degree position =
while the reverse side is tilting from its the 20 degree position to its 85Degree position.
 The angles are relative the "loops" not to each other. When either loop is reaching the 20 degrees - it is lowering its pressure and the fluid or air output returns, when either set of loops is increasing its angle form 20 toward 85 - it is supplying output.
 Currently we do not have our output system completed - so when we cycle - we can pump the output "water" to a raised reservoir and then let it fall to a lower reservoir which is then fed back into the TAZ. We also have an air bag system to use the air output as a mechanical pump - we are working on it as a hydraulic production system to close loop the TAZ.
 Without the hydraulic out put system - our current system is not set up to accumulate the energy - it can provide the pumping continuously, or be started and stopped as needed.
 The most logical long term use will be Clean Energy production, remote Energy production - pumping will likely be the initial product.
 I am not sure what is all possible - what our devices both do - is make it economical to produce energy for consumption without pollution, and without consuming resources - beyond the capital costs.
 Our TAZ system has two distinct advantages beyond the clean and New - simple to build and operate, Cheaper to supply continuous energy than Fossil fuel.
 Disadvantage - we will never be as small as a fossil fuel system - but we could be used to compress hydrogen fuel - without the 80% loss.
 In short, we have two ground breaking discoveries utilizing two separate yet related methods to generate Net energy, we are a small company and gathering good guidance.
 We have both filed as patent applications the first is rolled over to the full application - the TAZ is a complete application in preparation yet we have it filed as a provisional for protection - giving us time to get thru development.
 We have several replications of both systems, and the physics do not require a PhD to understand - if instructed properly - I have instructed many "in person" - it makes sense when you can see and touch and have questions answered.
 I hope this is helping...Since we have had to invent names to call things - in order to communicate together here at the lab and world wide - I understand that it must be difficult trying to follow  - I prefer not to try to "explain" over the phone - or e-mail - but I will try if desired - a visit is best.
 Thank you for your time.
 Wayne Travis




Mags, where do you think buoyancy comes from? The only way to turn it on and off is if you turn gravity on and off. Submarines don't do that, they pump water into and out of ballast tanks, decreasing and increasing the effective volume of the boat. This takes a goodly amount of time and it isn't turning anything on and off.

Now read that last newsletter carefully. Note that he is talking about inputs and outputs of liquid water. You put a little in, and you get a lot out. 

Do we really have to say any more?

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
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Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #504 on: March 05, 2014, 07:18:25 AM »
Great topic TK

Who wants to discuss why it takes 161 cubic feet of air to lift 10,000 pounds with good old regular buoyancy

and only 2 cubic feet with a ZED.....

Makes it quick to turn buoyancy on or off - - oh boy faster lol

Wayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #505 on: March 05, 2014, 07:20:52 AM »
Great topic TK

Who wants to discuss why it takes 161 cubic feet of air to lift 10,000 pounds with good old regular buoyancy

and only 2 cubic feet with a ZED.....

Makes it quick to turn buoyancy on or off - - oh boy faster lol

Wayne

I can lift my entire automobile with a lever, pushing down with only a few pounds of force. SO? My car doesn't run itself

... and neither do any of your many claimed test apparatuses. That's the only interesting issue here: what you have claimed, and what you DO NOT HAVE.


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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
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Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #506 on: March 05, 2014, 07:22:45 AM »
Who wants to discuss how we can lift and deliver a load - without consuming the inlet pressure??

OK that is too easy...

Lets do it without a spring or air....

A ZED can.....

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #507 on: March 05, 2014, 07:25:12 AM »
I can lift my entire automobile with a lever, pushing down with only a few pounds of force. SO? My car doesn't run itself

... and neither do any of your many claimed test apparatuses. That's the only interesting issue here: what you have claimed, and what you DO NOT HAVE.

A lever ok?

The question was "with buoyancy"

Stay on topic and save your insults.

Thanks

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #508 on: March 05, 2014, 07:27:09 AM »
TK,

That was so many years ago - I do not even know when lol
You made the power point show in November of 2010. I presume you presented it shortly thereafter.
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No - we did not get funding from that power point - we had a TK in the room claiming I must be a fraud - p.s. he was fired later.
Of course he was. You have carefully selected those who surround you, as all cult leaders do.
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TK every time you make your silly threats - who are you talking to, yourself?
I have never threatened you, Wayne Travis ol boy. You are threatening yourself, though, by engaging in very risky behaviour.

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I always tell it like it is , as it is, at the time it is....

Do you or do you not have a 5 HP self running machine that produces that 5hp usable output, with no input no exhaust, just 5 HP "net" work output? Do you, or do you not? Tell it like it is, at this present time now.

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Let me guess - you never wore diapers - well I did, and I said I did at one time - and things change.

I don't now - so why don't you look me up in thirty years and call me a liar when I put on a pair then.

So silly.

You are more likely to be wearing handcuffs than diapers, that's for sure. But you are selling a double pantload of crap, that is also for sure.


Eventually you will probably wind up being chased down the street by a gang of children, shouting at you NA NA NA, He said he could but he can't, NA NA NA.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #509 on: March 05, 2014, 07:28:21 AM »
December 6, 2012:




Mags, where do you think buoyancy comes from? The only way to turn it on and off is if you turn gravity on and off. Submarines don't do that, they pump water into and out of ballast tanks, decreasing and increasing the effective volume of the boat. This takes a goodly amount of time and it isn't turning anything on and off.

Now read that last newsletter carefully. Note that he is talking about inputs and outputs of liquid water. You put a little in, and you get a lot out. 

Do we really have to say any more?

I love your collection - you should see mine.

 

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