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Author Topic: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED  (Read 403474 times)

Offline Magluvin

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #405 on: March 04, 2014, 06:49:14 AM »

Thanks, Mags,


So insightful, statements like yours help me to deal with the ignorance of those with less system comprehension ability.


Larry

No prob.  Heck, I get tired of trying to shuffle through that crap just to read any substance of a thread. There are many threads here that are beat to a pulp continuously, ALL DAY LONG.

Stefan NEEDS to make private threads for those that request them. Its being done on other forums. Sometimes there just needs to be some isolation from all the negativity in order to get things done. And if at the end of the day, the project doesnt work then so beit. These are the choices WE make to work on projects, only to have to explain ourselves day in and day out. Sick of it.

Anyway, good work you guys. And I hope it pans out for you. ;)

Mags

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #405 on: March 04, 2014, 06:49:14 AM »

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #406 on: March 04, 2014, 06:51:25 AM »
Exactly.  Let's see a brazen person that's contributing to this thread post a clip of their own working over unity hydraulic bucket brigade unto itself.

I vote for Mark E's brick.  So far, that is showing the most promise.  No investors needed either.

Bill

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #407 on: March 04, 2014, 06:53:41 AM »
Hey Wayne

Long time since we chatted last.

My post was a bit of sarcasm. ;)   I KNOW that you have not asked for any investments from anyone here. ;) I was just fishing for some clear reasons for the comments.

Webby and Larry and who ever else is doing work on this, its too bad there is more negative posts than they care to be bothered with. I would be very frustrated. Its not like they asked for help from these guys. I guess it just the way things are today. People dont like people doing their own thing and need to occupy their time with page after page of argument. No wonder nothing gets done around here. ::) ;)

I guess Mark was exclaiming that why give away the idea if there is an investor. Wouldnt the investor disapprove?  I cant answer that for him.

Anyway, hope things work out for the builders. its not a simple task.

Mags

Thanks Mag,

Wouldn't the investor Disapprove?

Yes - and every one of my family members  disapprove - because of the way people are treated here - by a few.

I owed it to the builders, inventors and the engineers that helped us since I first posted here.

We are a team.

We are very well protected.

Also, Our intention is to work together with like minded people - I just have to put up with - garbage out's - sometimes.

Again, Thank you.





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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #407 on: March 04, 2014, 06:53:41 AM »
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #408 on: March 04, 2014, 06:56:50 AM »
No prob.  Heck, I get tired of trying to shuffle through that crap just to read any substance of a thread. There are many threads here that are beat to a pulp continuously, ALL DAY LONG.

Stefan NEEDS to make private threads for those that request them. Its being done on other forums. Sometimes there just needs to be some isolation from all the negativity in order to get things done. And if at the end of the day, the project doesnt work then so beit. These are the choices WE make to work on projects, only to have to explain ourselves day in and day out. Sick of it.

Anyway, good work you guys. And I hope it pans out for you. ;)

Mags
No amount of positive attitude will alter the way that nature works.  When it comes to the acceleration of masses towards one another known as gravity, that behavior is entirely conservative.

Go ahead and put aside the fact that the conservative nature of gravity doomed HER/Zydro's claims the moment they came up with them.  Investigate to your heart's content each of the things they say that they do that they claim are unusual and see how each of those things:  helps, hurts, or has no net effect on efficiency.  Please discuss any mechanism that you think offers a benefit compared to a brick.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #409 on: March 04, 2014, 07:00:03 AM »
Wayne Travis math and physics are not on your side.  A series of lossy processes only results in greater loss.  You have yet to identify that non-existent process that makes up for all the losses in your inane contraption and yields the net over unity result.  It's rather obvious why you don't identify it:  No such process exists.

Yes, there is no reason for you to continue in your attempts to mislead people.  Yet you continue to do that.  Why is that Wayne?

MarkE -

I have tried to be respectful even as you spew garbage continually - and I shared a NET Energy System with you.

Maybe looking for overunity limited your math - I never claimed Magical free energy - I accepted that a few puppets could not tell the difference and let it go.

All of our systems Energy input - reuses- and Net can be accounted for properly - that does not require Over unity.

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Hence the term - Non conservative process.

MarkE I did not want you to miss it, sorry again.

Wayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #409 on: March 04, 2014, 07:00:03 AM »
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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #410 on: March 04, 2014, 07:01:33 AM »
Thanks Mag,

Wouldn't the investor Disapprove?
How do investors feel about you selling them a bunch of lies?
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Yes - and every one of my family members  disapprove - because of the way people are treated here - by a few.
Are all your family members who originally invested still in?  Do they all want to stay invested?  Or are their a lot of prayers for a buyout investor in Chickasha these days?
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I owed it to the builders, inventors and the engineers that helped us since I first posted here.

We are a team.
If the day comes you might be surprised how many might ask to sever any court action.
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We are very well protected.

Also, Our intention is to work together with like minded people - I just have to put up with - garbage out's - sometimes.
'Tis the way of the cult.
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Again, Thank you.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #411 on: March 04, 2014, 07:06:56 AM »
How do investors feel about you selling them a bunch of lies?Are all your family members who originally invested still in?  Do they all want to stay invested?  Or are their a lot of prayers for a buyout investor in Chickasha these days?If the day comes you might be surprised how many might ask to sever any court action.'Tis the way of the cult.

One other person went on a mad rampage like this last time he couldn't control the conversation, I was told that you and he were the same person.

MH backed up the other guy as well - the whole time....

I am now convinced you are one and the same. - if not - no distinction.

You have earned block.

Good bye.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #411 on: March 04, 2014, 07:06:56 AM »
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Offline Magluvin

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #412 on: March 04, 2014, 07:12:12 AM »
I vote for Mark E's brick.  So far, that is showing the most promise.  No investors needed either.

Bill

Cmon Bill. Ive always seen you a impartial here. Whats the beef?  Did Wayne ask you for money? Does he give you grief?  Did he crash your party????? What then?  Delightment? ???

So go and make a brick thread if it shows so much promise. ;)   These guys are not running around this forum telling one and all to come see the glorious pump. Their are just doing their thing, and you guys have a problem with that.

Well if that just the way its going to be around here, maybe its not a good place for people to come to. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)   Im sure Stefan would like to have less people come here. ::) ::) ::) ::)

Lets just run everyone out of here so you all can be satisfied?????? ;)   I guess thats the goal. If not, its just to make everyone miserable then. Still no better.  Of all, I always considered you better than that. ;)

Mags

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #413 on: March 04, 2014, 07:14:44 AM »
MarkE -

I have tried to be respectful even as you spew garbage continually - and I shared a NET Energy System with you.

Maybe looking for overunity limited your math - I never claimed Magical free energy - I accepted that a few puppets could not tell the difference and let it go.
Yet you do in fact claim free energy.  And your claims are in fact false.
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All of our systems Energy input - reuses- and Net can be accounted for properly - that does not require Over unity.
Oh I absolutely agree that all the energy can be accounted, and that is where your machinery fails to deliver on your false claims.
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Hence the term - Non conservative process.
Hence your false claims.

MarkE I did not want you to miss it, sorry again.[/quote]Do you think I have missed your lies?  Why would you think that?
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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #413 on: March 04, 2014, 07:14:44 AM »
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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #414 on: March 04, 2014, 07:17:12 AM »
Cmon Bill. Ive always seen you a impartial here. Whats the beef?  Did Wayne ask you for money? Does he give you grief?  Did he crash your party? ??? ? What then?  Delightment? ???

So go and make a brick thread if it shows so much promise. ;)   These guys are not running around this forum telling one and all to come see the glorious pump. Their are just doing their thing, and you guys have a problem with that.

Well if that just the way its going to be around here, maybe its not a good place for people to come to. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)   Im sure Stefan would like to have less people come here. ::) ::) ::) ::)

Lets just run everyone out of here so you all can be satisfied? ??? ?? ;)   I guess thats the goal. If not, its just to make everyone miserable then. Still no better.  Of all, I always considered you better than that. ;)

Mags

Geeze Mags, lighten up a bit over there.  Wayne has asked folks for money for a device that does not work, can't work, will not work, he can't prove it works...etc.

Do YOU not see anything wrong with this?  If you don't, I don't know what to tell you.

Bill

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #415 on: March 04, 2014, 07:21:39 AM »
One other person went on a mad rampage like this last time he couldn't control the conversation, I was told that you and he were the same person.

MH backed up the other guy as well - the whole time....

I am now convinced you are one and the same. - if not - no distinction.

You have earned block.

Good bye.
You seem convinced of many things. For instance you might actually get away with selling lies to your investors.  Then again, maybe you will face consequences for your actions.  Only time will tell.  Who am I.  I am me and no one else.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #416 on: March 04, 2014, 07:24:00 AM »
No amount of positive attitude will alter the way that nature works.  When it comes to the acceleration of masses towards one another known as gravity, that behavior is entirely conservative.

Go ahead and put aside the fact that the conservative nature of gravity doomed HER/Zydro's claims the moment they came up with them.  Investigate to your heart's content each of the things they say that they do that they claim are unusual and see how each of those things:  helps, hurts, or has no net effect on efficiency.  Please discuss any mechanism that you think offers a benefit compared to a brick.

So what.  Why cant these guys figure things out on their own??? They did not ask for your help, but you give and give and give till the pages turn one after another like you are the forum police.

So youve said it all in this post. But you will be here again and again and again and again. FOR FREAKIN WHAT!!!!!!!  Again and again.  Like some concentration camp. 

Larry Wayne and Webby.  If you want, I can get you set up with a private thread in another forum if you wish. Cuz this is nothing but a brick in the face day in and day out.  Leme know. ;)   

Mags

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #417 on: March 04, 2014, 07:24:35 AM »
Again, saying he is asking for a buck.   ???    Please show me where he is asking anyone here for money!!!   You cannot.  So you are the liar.  ;)

Mags
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They are selling.  You can choose to see it or not.  Dennis Lee made great coin selling licenses and franchises in worthless junk himself.  Dennis has been shut down multiple times and even gone to jail.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #418 on: March 04, 2014, 07:30:13 AM »
Cmon Bill. Ive always seen you a impartial here. Whats the beef?  Did Wayne ask you for money? Does he give you grief?  Did he crash your party????? What then?  Delightment? ???

So go and make a brick thread if it shows so much promise. ;)   These guys are not running around this forum telling one and all to come see the glorious pump. Their are just doing their thing, and you guys have a problem with that.

Well if that just the way its going to be around here, maybe its not a good place for people to come to. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)   Im sure Stefan would like to have less people come here. ::) ::) ::) ::)

Lets just run everyone out of here so you all can be satisfied?????? ;)   I guess thats the goal. If not, its just to make everyone miserable then. Still no better.  Of all, I always considered you better than that. ;)

Mags
Since when have false claims done anything but harm research?  Every huckster who sells lies discourages investment in genuine research. 

Wayne and company have had years to come up with evidence to support their false claims.  They never have.  Please explain how their creating false hope in tipping buckets of water has contributed to your knowledge or anyone else's knowledge.  Are you happy about all the money that investors have given to Wayne for his false claims?

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #419 on: March 04, 2014, 07:33:48 AM »
So what.  Why cant these guys figure things out on their own??? They did not ask for your help, but you give and give and give till the pages turn one after another like you are the forum police.

So youve said it all in this post. But you will be here again and again and again and again. FOR FREAKIN WHAT!!!!!!!  Again and again.  Like some concentration camp. 

Larry Wayne and Webby.  If you want, I can get you set up with a private thread in another forum if you wish. Cuz this is nothing but a brick in the face day in and day out.  Leme know. ;)   

Mags
Do you suffer under the delusion that Wayne believes what he claims?  Do you think that in six years he has not been exposed to professional evaluation of his false claims?  Do you think that he has ever demonstrated to himself or anyone else what he has claimed to have for years?

This thread was set up by Mondrasek to analyze his problem as he set it up.  So far it appears that I am the only one who has done that. 

 

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