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Author Topic: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED  (Read 489445 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #840 on: March 09, 2014, 09:57:50 PM »
Is this what you want, hypocrite Wayne Travis?

I regret that I called you a liar, EVEN IF IT IS TRUE.
I apologize that I called you a hypocrite, EVEN IF IT IS TRUE.
I am sorry that you don't keep your promises..... EVEN IF IT IS TRUE.


Do you get the picture, hypocritical "honest" Wayne Travis?  I'm sorry you called me a total TURD KISSER...... and some day you will be _genuinely_ sorry that you did.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #840 on: March 09, 2014, 09:57:50 PM »

Offline mondrasek

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #841 on: March 09, 2014, 10:17:25 PM »
Do you get the picture, hypocritical "honest" Wayne Travis?  I'm sorry you called me a total TURD KISSER...... and some day you will be _genuinely_ sorry that you did.

Actually he did not call you a turd kisser.  He expressed his opinion of you being one.  I have accused my closest friends of being an ass or worse from time to time.

I'd still like to get back to the Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED.  Whenever anyone has constructive input on that topic.  Currently I am asking if the method I used to calculate buoyancy Forces for the SUT is correct or not.  Constructive input from anyone is welcome.  MarkE must be busy or has abandoned his offer to double check.  So, while we give him time to address the question, does anyone else have a constructive insight?

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #842 on: March 09, 2014, 10:31:58 PM »
I do believe I have actually gone over that, and more than once.

In the world I live in when something is discussed, mentioned or what have you, then it is a case of an understood,  I find it interesting that some people posting on this forum do not.

MarkE, you have posted your math on the single riser setup and your math as posted is absolutely WRONG.  I am not a math hotshot and I can see your error,,,,,
Mistakes are always possible.  You are free to show whatever mistake you contend that I have made.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #842 on: March 09, 2014, 10:31:58 PM »
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #843 on: March 09, 2014, 10:53:54 PM »
Unfortunately this State 3 being checked is not going to work for us.  When summing the buoyant Forces on the pod and risers due to the water Head on each you arrive at a negative value.  So the ZED could never rise to the height that is displayed.  It would stop short of that lift where the sum of the buoyant Forces is zero.

The buoyant Force on the pod and riser is calculated:

Fb = (Water Head) * (Surface Area)

For the outer riser this would be calculated as Fb = (AR7 - AR6) * (pi * r2)

If the units of measure are kept always as cm, the result is simply cm3 (also known as cc).  With the Density of water at 1 gram/cm3 the result is also the buoyant Force in grams.

So for the outer riser this would be calculated as Fb = (2.2966 - 4.0351) * (pi * 2.22) = -26.4344 grams of Force.  This riser is negatively Buoyant and pushing down against the middle riser.

Calculate the others similarly and you get:

Buoyant Force from Outer Riser  = -26.4344 g
Buoyant Force from Middle Riser =    0.9191 g
Buoyant Force from Inner Riser   =  14.8938 g
Buoyant Force from the pod        =    7.1132 g
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Total Buoyant Force                    =  -3.5083 g

The ZED could not rise to this condition.

MarkE, do you want to argue this point, make a correction, or should I choose a different State 3 to work with?
The only thing that I am willing to discuss is the analysis you claimed to have in the OP but you refuse to produce.  Produce your analysis or don't.  If you don't, then you will continue to make it obvious that you have been blowing smoke the entire time.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #844 on: March 09, 2014, 10:55:32 PM »
I know, I knew it was copied.

I am very sorry.

You have treated me fairly and with honest judgement from day one.

It was in very poor taste to treat you that way. Very Poor.

Wayne
If you are sorry for bad acts, then come clean with your investors and accept the consequences.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #844 on: March 09, 2014, 10:55:32 PM »
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #845 on: March 09, 2014, 11:04:00 PM »
Early on in the ZED development (but after we had broken the conservative process of gravity).
No such thing ever happened.  You have never created a situation where gravity does not behave conservatively.  You have never been able to demonstrate such a thing before, and you cannot demonstrate such a thing now.
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I was contacted by Patrick Flanagan, who pumped me for inside information regarding the inner workings of the ZED.

I was excited - this guy was a wiz kid and had his own inventions.

......................

I gave him very valuable information --------- and he turned out to be not such a good guy.
How can you say such things about the person Sterling D. Allan calls "Tesla II"?  How can you say such things about a guy who has donated thousands and thousands of dollars to Sterling D. Allan?
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Later - I discovered that Patrick had decided he was the reincarnated "Tesla" and he now was working to keep his secrets safe from bad guys.

I let it all go as a lesson learned.
He sounds like your kind of guy:  Make outrageous claims, and fail to support those claims with any evidence.  Are you sure you weren't separated at rebirth?
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I do not know yet how my invention is a harm to the world - but I have seen every effort possible to discredit my work - except a real analysis.
Isn't that what you hired a crack team of technologists to do?  If they haven't analyzed your bucket of water lifting and dropping, moaner / groaner, then maybe they do just sit around all day watching TV like MileHigh suspected.
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Hence my verbal support to the men who put hands on the equipment.
Not even a "laying of the hands" will make the dead ZED arise and provide the "endless" energy that you know it cannot provide.
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Once Again, I am in your debt.

Wayne Travis
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #846 on: March 09, 2014, 11:16:01 PM »
I was wrong in saying so, regardless of whether it is or is not true.

"Because" I stooped to that level. I am sorry for doing it.
Ah there it is again.  You just can't change your ways, can you Wayne?  You just can't keep yourself from sliding into suggestion mode.  Oopsy!  You just unraveled your half-hearted apology to TinselKoala by suggesting that your base insult against him may not be anything but the false, disgusting insult that it is.  If you were actually sorry for what you posted you would have admitted that you knew your accusation was false.  Is it now fair game for anyone to lob any accusation they want if they later say:  'Oh, I am sorry that was rude, whether or not it is true.'  "
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Yes, I have a leg to stand on, you defamed my character for over two years........
I don't have the time to go through TinselKoala's posts, but it is a safe bet that because you have never supported your absolutely false free energy claims that he has pointed out that fact.  Praise Jesus!  Oh thank God that some people actually think.
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Have you not left an insult out - not one.

Now again:

I would like you to defend your claims and statements, I will remove the thought of apology for you:
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"He is using his vast well-paid network of lawyers and webmasters"
and "private investigators to find out who you are",
"where you live", just what your
"qualifications" are and just whatever he can find to use against you.
I wouldn't know.  Maybe TinselKoala does.
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"Wayne Travis has his paid shills posting on this forum, attempting to help promulgate his fraudulent program"
Well you do have at least one acknowledged employee posting here.  Your claims to machinery that generates "endless" energy are nothing but a fraud.  So, it seems that TinselKoala is on solid ground there.
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At least six claims you are making against me.....

Are these generated from your imagination, is that fair way to treat people.

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Provide the proof or recall your claims.

I do not need an apology.

........ p.s. church does not make you perfect............. just saying....
You should think about that one yourself.  No matter how many times you invoke God when pimping your worthless investments, they are still worthless and you know or are reckless in not knowing it.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #846 on: March 09, 2014, 11:16:01 PM »
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #847 on: March 09, 2014, 11:17:34 PM »
"Quick question:

How many of these user names are "TK

John
AL
alokin alset
Orbo 3000
minnie
TK
alset alokin
Bill

(http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/huh.gif)?"

So now I am TK?  Or am I these other folks?  Now I am confused.  I really thought that TK was Stefan.  (Just kidding)  Maybe Mr. Wayne is Sterling then?

This makes my head spin.

Bill
I knew it! Your real name is Reagan O'Neill.

Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #848 on: March 09, 2014, 11:22:11 PM »
Actually he did not call you a turd kisser.  He expressed his opinion of you being one.  I have accused my closest friends of being an ass or worse from time to time.

I'd still like to get back to the Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED.  Whenever anyone has constructive input on that topic.  Currently I am asking if the method I used to calculate buoyancy Forces for the SUT is correct or not.  Constructive input from anyone is welcome.  MarkE must be busy or has abandoned his offer to double check.  So, while we give him time to address the question, does anyone else have a constructive insight?
Really you want to get back to the analysis that in your OP you said you had already done?  Then why is it that you keep stalling?  Where is this analysis that you said you wanted checked out?  Here we are three weeks later and you still can't quite seem to put your hands on the work you said you had already done "to 10 digits".

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #848 on: March 09, 2014, 11:22:11 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #849 on: March 09, 2014, 11:57:43 PM »
Actually he did not call you a turd kisser.  He expressed his opinion of you being one.  I have accused my closest friends of being an ass or worse from time to time.

(snip)

Oh, really? Where did you get your law degree, I wonder, Georgetown University?

I am of the opinion that it is really too bad that Wayne Travis is a eenie aster, not worth his salt.

Now.... did I just call Wayne Travis a Weenie Taster, who doesn't deserve to be paid for what he does because his talents and skills are worthless, or not?

Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #850 on: March 10, 2014, 01:42:52 AM »
Keep it up, Honest Wayne Travis. You are compounding insult after insult with your hypocrisy.

No, I have not defamed your "character", I have simply pointed out that you have made claims that are untrue, which makes YOU a liar. I did not put the false claims into your mouth, I have just shown where YOU made them, on the website that you have tried to suppress.

I have pointed out promises you have made and not kept, and I've helped to show how YOU have tried to distract from the real issues by your hypocritical insults and lack of respect for those whom you have called "not worth our salt".... that is, meaning that we are incompetent, ignorant and that anyone who might pay us a salary -- from the word for "salt" -- is wasting their money.

@webby: Are you now denying that Travis paid you a substantial chunk of change?  But it's on record. You may even recall that I asked you if the check actually cleared. Do you think he would have paid you that money if you had said that your tennis-ball-packaging model did NOT support his absurd claims? I sure don't. You have been PAID MONEY by WAYNE TRAVIS because YOU SUPPORTED HIS CLAIMS. 

Now, if you found out that I was paid money to detract, to criticize.... I am quite sure that you would have no problem calling ME a "paid shill". You hypocrite.

There is one and only one issue here, and that is that Honest Wayne Travis has claimed that which is not true. He has claimed to have something that he will never show you, because he does not in fact have anything but a plan, a dream, and some colored water in plastic toys. Do not be distracted by his insults, his false apologies made from the left side of his face, or his threats. Demand to see the sausages! You will never see them.

No Sir,

You have attempted to shed false light on my name and project for two years.

I am waiting on the proof of these - I could post 100

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"He is using his vast well-paid network of lawyers and webmasters"
and "private investigators to find out who you are",
"where you live", just what your
"qualifications" are and just whatever he can find to use against you.

"Wayne Travis has his paid shills posting on this forum, attempting to help promulgate his fraudulent program"

....................

At least six claims you are making against me.....

Proof of your made up claims

Thanks you


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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #850 on: March 10, 2014, 01:42:52 AM »
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Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #851 on: March 10, 2014, 01:46:06 AM »
Is this what you want, hypocrite Wayne Travis?

I regret that I called you a liar, EVEN IF IT IS TRUE.
I apologize that I called you a hypocrite, EVEN IF IT IS TRUE.
I am sorry that you don't keep your promises..... EVEN IF IT IS TRUE.


Do you get the picture, hypocritical "honest" Wayne Travis?  I'm sorry you called me a total TURD KISSER...... and some day you will be _genuinely_ sorry that you did.

You are absolutely clear.... well said.

Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #852 on: March 10, 2014, 01:51:30 AM »
If you are sorry for bad acts, then come clean with your investors and accept the consequences.

MarkE,

Please provide proof that my investors are not happy?

Thanks

Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #853 on: March 10, 2014, 01:53:44 AM »
No such thing ever happened.  You have never created a situation where gravity does not behave conservatively.  You have never been able to demonstrate such a thing before, and you cannot demonstrate such a thing now.How can you say such things about the person Sterling D. Allan calls "Tesla II"?  How can you say such things about a guy who has donated thousands and thousands of dollars to Sterling D. Allan?He sounds like your kind of guy:  Make outrageous claims, and fail to support those claims with any evidence.  Are you sure you weren't separated at rebirth?Isn't that what you hired a crack team of technologists to do?  If they haven't analyzed your bucket of water lifting and dropping, moaner / groaner, then maybe they do just sit around all day watching TV like MileHigh suspected.Not even a "laying of the hands" will make the dead ZED arise and provide the "endless" energy that you know it cannot provide.If you write to the BOP, you can perhaps reserve a number in advance.  Then people will know how to insure your future mail does not get lost.

MarkE - I think we all know where you stand,,,,you missed it or ignored what you saw.

p.s. please provide proof that my investors are not happy.



good day

Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #854 on: March 10, 2014, 01:59:28 AM »
Hello Mike,

Mark has shy'd away - his way or the highway - I suggest give him directions to the turnpike.

There are good engineers who can review - without a self supporting agenda.

Good Luck.




 

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