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Author Topic: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED  (Read 432199 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #510 on: March 05, 2014, 07:31:12 AM »
A lever ok?

The question was "with buoyancy"

Stay on topic and save your insults.

Thanks

Buoyancy is just gravity misspelled, Wayne Travis. And it is YOU who are insulting me, as usual, over and over. I am not that stupid, to fall for your dodges and lies.

Do you or do you not have the device Minnie has asked you about? A self running, 5 hp "net" device that outputs more ENERGY than the zero amount it takes to run it? Yes, or no.... or weasel some mo'.


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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #510 on: March 05, 2014, 07:31:12 AM »

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #511 on: March 05, 2014, 07:32:34 AM »
I love your collection - you should see mine.
Not my collection at all, Wayne ol boy. Your whole old website is saved on the internet for anyone to see, by the Wayback Machine. You can try to suppress information that you have posted, but you cannot actually do it.

Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #512 on: March 05, 2014, 07:33:09 AM »
It takes near 5 years for many many many people to come up with a new playstation version. And each new model is only an improvement of the previous design. All just to play games and make money. ;)   

Mags

Mags, you speak from experience... It has been a long wonderful journey, good friends, cool builds.


 

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #512 on: March 05, 2014, 07:33:09 AM »
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #513 on: March 05, 2014, 07:37:06 AM »
Now - Orbo - "an obvious lie and a false claim"

What do you base that off?

Wayne
Steorn made their big public splash with their absurd claims to free energy from arranging permanent magnets coming up on eight years ago.  They failed at all their demonstration attempts.  Their jury ruled unanimously that Steorn failed to ever show any evidence that they could produce energy.  And even one of their true believers eventually came out and decried their false claims of free energy as the result of measurement errors.  Maybe you would like to select a jury of 22.  It bought Steorn a good two and half years.  Now Steorn have some water heater contraption.

Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #514 on: March 05, 2014, 07:38:48 AM »
"Yet he claims to be able to switch it on and off. "

Now, you REALLY need to show me that quote from Wayne. Show me and everyone here that Wayne said that. Ill be here eagerly waiting on that one. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) I really hope you can produce that piece of evidence.  :o ;) But I bet Ill just get some whole page runaround instead. Bet on it. ;)

Mags
How much would you like to bet?

You do understand that buoyancy is the acceleration due to gravity acting on a fluid displacement, don't you? 

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Hello and Welcome,   My name is Wayne Travis, I am the inventor of the Hydro Energy Technology.
My invention is an apparatus utilizing buoyant forces and a method for doing the same.
Hydro Energy Revolution was originally formed by family, and merged into a community effort, 81 persons with a wide range of skills and support.
We are currently evolving into an international team of diverse and successful experts in the development, marketing distribution, manufacturing and maintenance, of new technology.  Mark Dansie has been key in vetting and inviting the new team members.
It is clearly a quest for a better and clean energy technology that is bringing these groups together for the common goal.
In 2008, I discovered how to turn Buoyancy "off and on" very quickly, very cheaply, regardless of the force required.
In 2009 I invented a way to utilize that discovery in the form of a self contained and fuel-less system to supply net excess energy to consumers.
We developed 7 prototypes, developing and improving the system, we have just finished our Data collection model, and have our Beta modeled.
Our Machine will be used to supply electricity, both commercially and through leases.
It has many applications, we look forward to supplying many needs.
Several generations of output will be scaled, 25, 50, and 100 kilo watts are planned to be Beta tested.
We are currently securing the team and then will secure the funding for those three models.
Five representatives from States in the USA have requested licenses early - and nine countries have requested meetings through Mark Dansie.
You may submit questions to me, Wayne Travis at mr.wayne@hydroenergyrevolution.com
I will be glad to answer.
Sincerely Grateful
Wayne Travis

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #514 on: March 05, 2014, 07:38:48 AM »
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Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #515 on: March 05, 2014, 07:40:57 AM »
Buoyancy is just gravity misspelled, Wayne Travis. And it is YOU who are insulting me, as usual, over and over. I am not that stupid, to fall for your dodges and lies.

Do you or do you not have the device Minnie has asked you about? A self running, 5 hp "net" device that outputs more ENERGY than the zero amount it takes to run it? Yes, or no.... or weasel some mo'.

Discuss the topic - or I will boot you off. JK

So gravity is misspelled Buoyancy.... is that like alset alokin ???

Al

You talk in code - not me.




Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #516 on: March 05, 2014, 07:45:01 AM »
The Zed has segregated surface area's - and we can control how much effect each is contributing to the lift during a production stroke, and how they contribute to the exhuast pressure on the down stroke.

It is a liquid piston technology,

The ability to change the size of the effective surface area at will.

The effective surface area - is directly responsible for the pressure required for lift, the production

And directly responsible for the pressure produced during the sink.

A big piston on the way up and a small piston on the way down -

NOW Here is the kicker - same volume and time both directions..

Any one want to discuss that?
Why of course:  Let's discuss that.  Just post a diagram and your math.  Show your energy gain.  Force gain won't cut it.  We need to see you "turn buoyancy on and off at will", and/or gain energy at will.  Are you finally up to the task?

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #516 on: March 05, 2014, 07:45:01 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #517 on: March 05, 2014, 07:45:06 AM »
You can't "boot me off"... .and that sure sounded like a threat. DO this or else you will boot me. That's a clear threat, Travis. I talk in code? But Travis... you sound like you had a rough time in that tenth grade English class. When someone isn't ghost-writing for you you are barely articulate, hardly intelligible at all.

What's the matter, can't sleep? Don't you have a busy day ahead of you tomorrow, Wayne ol boy? Thinking up new reasons why your leaking groaning tub of water STILL won't run itself after all these years? Maybe your engineers are taking you for a ride, did you ever think about that? What other reason could there be for the failure to produce a self runner according to the ideas YOU know will work? I think you have someone working for you that is sabotaging you and pocketing a lot of cash along the way. How else to account for your continuing failure to "meet expectations" and keep doors open?


Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #518 on: March 05, 2014, 07:45:50 AM »
Not my collection at all, Wayne ol boy. Your whole old website is saved on the internet for anyone to see, by the Wayback Machine. You can try to suppress information that you have posted, but you cannot actually do it.

Your fantasy -

You see TK, when you are telling the truth - it does not matter who has your records.

If all your posts were deleted - well - the world would be missing something.

As far as your fantasy about me supressing? get a life, If I want to back up my systems or add stuff - who cares what you think about that.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #518 on: March 05, 2014, 07:45:50 AM »
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #519 on: March 05, 2014, 07:46:35 AM »
Nope. Submarines been doing 'that' for a long time.  Mark specified 'gravity'. Is there no difference???

"Wayne Travis admits that "gravity is always on".  Yet he claims to be able to switch it on and off.  Someone read "Slapstick"."

No link necessary. ;)

Mags
I think you should avail yourself to a physics primer.

Offline Magluvin

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #520 on: March 05, 2014, 07:47:42 AM »
Buoyancy is just gravity misspelled,

I really hate to argue with you T.  I respect your knowledge and intellect more than your cohorts. But..   Can you show me a reference to that statement, other than your own?   ??? ;)     Please?? You must have a copy ready for cut and paste. ;D

Mags

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #520 on: March 05, 2014, 07:47:42 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #521 on: March 05, 2014, 07:49:57 AM »
Your fantasy -

You see TK, when you are telling the truth - it does not matter who has your records.

If all your posts were deleted - well - the world would be missing something.

As far as your fantasy about me supressing? get a life, If I want to back up my systems or add stuff - who cares what you think about that.

You removed all those old websites, all those old newsletters and you are still reeling, right now, to have learned that they are still available. I saw your face go white, from here. You are regretting ever having posted a link to that powerpoint and you are desperately trying to figure out how I got hold of that "expectations not met, we had a lawsuit, doors closing, funds not arriving" video clip. And your flailings about are becoming more and more ridiculous all the time.

You got one thing right though... "who cares what I think about that". So tell me.... why DO you care what I think, what this forum thinks? Why are you here at one AM instead of curled up in your cozy, ZED-heated home, safe in bed, gathering strength for your mission to Save the World?

Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #522 on: March 05, 2014, 07:50:40 AM »
Great topic TK

Who wants to discuss why it takes 161 cubic feet of air to lift 10,000 pounds with good old regular buoyancy

and only 2 cubic feet with a ZED.....

Makes it quick to turn buoyancy on or off - - oh boy faster lol

Wayne
Unless you are trying to float 10klbs in an air atmosphere, no air is required.  In water, we need to displace about 161 cubic feet of water.  But then a $20. jack from AutoZone will generate 10klbs of lift in about 1/4 of a cubic foot.

I would like a "wax on, wax off" demonstration of buoyancy on and buoyancy off.  Kindly demonstrate this buoyancy switch in action.

Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #523 on: March 05, 2014, 07:52:21 AM »
Who wants to discuss how we can lift and deliver a load - without consuming the inlet pressure??

OK that is too easy...

Lets do it without a spring or air....

A ZED can.....
Consuming pressure?  Surely you jest.  Pressure is not a conserved quantity.  Let's see you convey energy without consuming any energy.

Offline Magluvin

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #524 on: March 05, 2014, 07:56:35 AM »
I think you should avail yourself to a physics primer.

Quote from TK.... "Buoyancy is just gravity misspelled,"

Can you provide a reference to that statement, being that you concur with it? ;D Seemingly. ;)

It not up to me to prove your statements. ;) Only to question them. ;)   

Mags


 

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