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Author Topic: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED  (Read 424970 times)

Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2250 on: April 16, 2014, 09:51:32 PM »
That's right Wayne Travesty, you are a liar and a fraud, everyone can see it, who is coming to your defence, after all these years who has used your simple science to construct a free energy device, not even your stooges can do that, you are a joke and a fraudulent liar

Do you feel better Powercatt..

I hope so..

You make assumptions on lack of information....

You will figure out that the Trolls Are left out of the real advances..

Why do you assume we would share information with you - with your utter unprofessional conduct..

Take Care

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2250 on: April 16, 2014, 09:51:32 PM »

Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2251 on: April 16, 2014, 09:56:22 PM »
It is proven physics. No, you simply retold your lies.  Your system does not deliver net output energy in excess of input energy.The fraud: Wayne Travis once again attempts to deflect attention from his fraud and his lies by accusing others.

LOL you stick with your divisions...

Who has said that we defy Physics? You do.

You assume we must.... that is the limitation of your intellect.... not mine.

Take care,

Last day

Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2252 on: April 16, 2014, 11:22:01 PM »
I guess this is what you were expecting then.

Since ST2 is restrained there is no energy increase to add, but in ST3 there is the increase in GPE which I have now added.

After that 1 additional change then I only need to add the return to ST1 and the performed.

st2 added energy                0.002098426553J
st2 estored total               0.005510745907J
st1 estored total               0.003412319354J
st3 estored total               0.003859752955J
ideal performed                 0.001650992951J
st3 to st1                      0.000447433601J
Performed Plus Return           0.002098426553J
st2 added energy                0.002098426553J
Input minus performed+return    0.000000000000J
st2 fill level                 37.00mm
lift height                     2.41mm

I added this to ST3_Energy

ST3_Riser_Weight_Energy     0.0002453J

=Riser3DownForce*ST3_Uplift_1*mm_to_m_1
I have not checked the numbers but the operations now look right.   Now, all someone has to do is find some way to recover the energy dumped with the bath water so to speak going from ST3 => ST1, only to immediately replace it going from ST1 => ST2.  Then one can contemplate why go all to this trouble when a cinder block brick that just sits there is more efficient.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2252 on: April 16, 2014, 11:22:01 PM »
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2253 on: April 16, 2014, 11:25:01 PM »
Do you feel better Powercatt..

I hope so..

You make assumptions on lack of information....

You will figure out that the Trolls Are left out of the real advances..
There it is:  The ever present, but false suggestion that there is something behind Wayne's tattered carnival curtain.  Unfortunately for the poor folks who already invested, there isn't and never was anything there.
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Why do you assume we would share information with you - with your utter unprofessional conduct..

Take Care
Powercat has routinely reprinted your promises to demonstrate against your claims.  What you said you would do in 2012, you now say you will not do until late 2015.  The fact is that you never will demonstrate against your claims, because your claims are lies.

Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2254 on: April 16, 2014, 11:27:03 PM »
LOL you stick with your divisions...

Who has said that we defy Physics? You do.
I never said such a thing.  I note that you falsely claim to violate known physics.  It is there to see on your web site and in your many writings, including posts here.
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You assume we must.... that is the limitation of your intellect.... not mine.

Take care,

Last day
Oh goody, Wayne Travis the fraud will soon be gone for good ... until he comes back.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2254 on: April 16, 2014, 11:27:03 PM »
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Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2255 on: April 16, 2014, 11:49:15 PM »
There it is:  The ever present, but false suggestion that there is something behind Wayne's tattered carnival curtain.  Unfortunately for the poor folks who already invested, there isn't and never was anything there.Powercat has routinely reprinted your promises to demonstrate against your claims.  What you said you would do in 2012, you now say you will not do until late 2015.  The fact is that you never will demonstrate against your claims, because your claims are lies.
Wow - you are pretty high and mighty - sitting behind your computer insulting people.
So how much $$ did you bet that you could take down Wayne Travis?
Is Powercat in on it.
Last Day.
 
 
 

Offline mondrasek

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2256 on: April 16, 2014, 11:55:13 PM »
I have not checked the numbers but the operations now look right.   Now, all someone has to do is find some way to recover the energy dumped with the bath water so to speak going from ST3 => ST1, only to immediately replace it going from ST1 => ST2.  Then one can contemplate why go all to this trouble when a cinder block brick that just sits there is more efficient.

Hey, I got Rheemed!  http://www.rheem.com/

Obviously we can imagine another "spillway" device to supposedly collect the Energy needed to transition from ST3 => ST1.  And just like with the "lift" spillway (ST2 => ST3) we can recover only 1/2 of that Energy since the integral of F*ds resolves to 0.5*Fmax*S (or the P*V equivalent).

Is that right so far?

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2256 on: April 16, 2014, 11:55:13 PM »
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Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2257 on: April 17, 2014, 12:02:43 AM »
I never said such a thing.  I note that you falsely claim to violate known physics.  It is there to see on your web site and in your many writings, including posts here.Oh goody, Wayne Travis the fraud will soon be gone for good ... until he comes back.
Making an assumption that I will soon be gone......hmmmmm.....from your vantage point...maybe.......
Last day - you are so wasting it.

Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2258 on: April 17, 2014, 12:09:32 AM »
Wow - you are pretty high and mighty - sitting behind your computer insulting people.
So how much $$ did you bet that you could take down Wayne Travis?
Is Powercat in on it.
Last Day.
LOL.  It's just awesome how you soldier on as though you are oblivious to the falsity of your claims, or the despicable nature of preying on people's hopes in order to steal money from them.

As far as someone taking you down, in your shoes I would be far more concerned about managing burned investor rage than I would someone on the WWW.  If a prosecutor decides to pursue you, they will at least be theoretically limited to legal due process.  Then again every once in awhile a fraud themselves gets played.

Viva!  Las Vegas!

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2258 on: April 17, 2014, 12:09:32 AM »
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Offline mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2259 on: April 17, 2014, 12:51:58 AM »
 Hello All,
My Name is Wayne Travis,
I used to be an inventor for hire, training programs, advancement procedures, toys, industrial applications mostly in robotics and manufacturing.
I loved my work, and I am blessed to have intelligent people to help develop those systems.
My income was always Salary, and I made no claims on any invention – solving the problem was the reward.  It was my job.
In 2008, I chanced upon a discovery that would change my understanding of energy production and limitations.
I begun building test systems to prove or narrow the understanding of the systems. My employer released me from intellectual control of the invention – it was not part of the robotics or tooling needs.
I worked two years quietly, and I was helped by many of the teams that I had worked with before, each of those members were given shares of my company – in return for their generosity of skill and time.
We made great advancements, but it was a long journey from anomaly to a producing system, a long journey.
Our expenses were mainly materials, and I personally spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on development materials, legal protection and taxes….
We were almost granted – but a threat of lawsuit – scared the grantees’ – we pressed on.
Our first Multi layered system was a great success – we were not sure if the buoyancy force would be additive or cancel each other out……….. Additive was the conclusion, and many benefits followed.
With each stage of advancement – our understanding and professionalism grew. We also found that the established education made blinding assumptions regarding any such technology; we persevered.
Wise men and women, great skeptics, and awesome builders joined in an international effort to understand and develop our systems – all blessings toward a common good.
Those people, like me, took a risks regarding our success or failure, they all understood that the chances of us succeeding at bringing clean energy to the world was next to Zero…. We often laughed at how insane it was to think we were going to succeed.
As a businessman, I understood that open sourcing our system completely would destroy the ability for investment and growth required to actually deliver systems to consumers.
I have been offered and have decided to sell our company, some of the requirements are that I become CEO, that our teams remain on board – and that we go dark: arrangements have been made.
Today is the last Day and communication from me, and I am asking that our NDA members to discontinue commenting on our systems – we have a world to bring clean power.
Sincerely:  Wayne Travis

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2260 on: April 17, 2014, 01:20:04 AM »
This has been one surreal thread and I am not sure that you are gone.  Everything about you Wayne and everything about your alleged system is wrong.  I don't even believe that you worked in robotics.  You talk like a Joe Blow that knows nothing about science and engineering.  Rather, you have learned to string together some catch phrases, play the bible-thumping card, and simply go forth like some sort of automaton.

You have never once even stated how you produce output power into a load, and what the load is.  That's because there are no programming cams in the automaton that would allow you to utter those catch phrases.

Any normal rational person reading this thread would see through you in 10 of your postings or less.

You are never, ever going to produce even a femtoerg of free energy.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2260 on: April 17, 2014, 01:20:04 AM »
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Offline powercat

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2261 on: April 17, 2014, 01:40:14 AM »
Do you feel better Powercatt..

I hope so..

You make assumptions on lack of information....

You will figure out that the Trolls Are left out of the real advances..

Why do you assume we would share information with you - with your utter unprofessional conduct..

Take Care


As usual incapable of answering the question = who on this website in all the years you have been here supports your claim ?  not including the three stooges......nobody... you have convince nobody,,,, you are a failure.

Offline fletcher

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2262 on: April 17, 2014, 02:48:52 AM »
Good luck Wayne, you made history here anyway - perhaps your company will be the one in a zillion exception in this field & actually have a POP that works & produce a commercially available free-energy machine, even if I don't understand your super-conservative physics - of course I suspect after commercialization it won't be 'free' anymore ;7)

Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2263 on: April 17, 2014, 11:24:06 AM »
Hello All,
My Name is Wayne Travis, ..
Fanciful wall of BS text...
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In 2008, I chanced upon a discovery that would change my understanding of energy production and limitations.

The discovery was that investors can be sold BS.
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I begun building test systems to prove or narrow the understanding of the systems. My employer released me from intellectual control of the invention – it was not part of the robotics or tooling needs.
I worked two years quietly, and I was helped by many of the teams that I had worked with before, each of those members were given shares of my company – in return for their generosity of skill and time.

All of these geniuses apparently flunked out of grade school science.
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We made great advancements, but it was a long journey from anomaly to a producing system, a long journey.

It is a journey they still haven't taken.  None of Wayne's machines produce output energy in excess of the input energy.
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Our expenses were mainly materials, and I personally spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on development materials, legal protection and taxes….
We were almost granted – but a threat of lawsuit – scared the grantees’ – we pressed on.

It's a real bummer how some people object to being defrauded.
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Our first Multi layered system was a great success – we were not sure if the buoyancy force would be additive or cancel each other out……….. Additive was the conclusion, and many benefits followed.

Wayne tells us that the brain trust in Wayne town are so dim they don't know how to add vectors.
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With each stage of advancement – our understanding and professionalism grew. We also found that the established education made blinding assumptions regarding any such technology; we persevered.

"Professionalism" equals Wayne speak for wooden nose.
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Wise men and women, great skeptics, and awesome builders joined in an international effort to understand and develop our systems – all blessings toward a common good.

Translation:  "Conning by proxy is fantastic!  Convince one person of a complete BS story and their reputation sells the BS to others. Mo' mo' investment money for Wayne!" 
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Those people, like me, took a risks regarding our success or failure, they all understood that the chances of us succeeding at bringing clean energy to the world was next to Zero…. We often laughed at how insane it was to think we were going to succeed.

It is zero.  The contraptions are completely useless as energy generators.
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As a businessman, I understood that open sourcing our system completely would destroy the ability for investment and growth required to actually deliver systems to consumers.

Physics prevents delivering systems that work as you claim to any customers, such as the Trinity Baptist Church.
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I have been offered and have decided to sell our company, some of the requirements are that I become CEO, that our teams remain on board – and that we go dark: arrangements have been made.

Viva!  Viva!  Viva!
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Today is the last Day and communication from me, and I am asking that our NDA members to discontinue commenting on our systems – we have a world to bring clean power.
Sincerely:  Wayne Travis
Wanna bet?

Offline MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2264 on: April 18, 2014, 03:52:50 AM »
Well I hoped a few things became apparent to those who held out hope for Wayne Travis' lies that were perhaps not obvious before:

DO NOT CONFUSE FORCE and ENERGY!

Lifting objects using buoyancy is to all effect and purpose a counter balancing scheme.  IE there is no reduction in the amount of work that must be done in order to change the energy state of the system internally, or deliver work externally.

Buoyancy does not alter the conservative nature of energy.

Buoyancy does not alter the conservative nature of gravity.

Using buoyancy to lift weights requires storage of internal energy in the fluid that is not necessary using other means of lifting weights including devices like winches.

Archimedes' Paradox allows a small amount of confined fluid to statically apply a buoyant up force much greater than the total weight of the fluid itself.  This is a FORCE.   It is not energy.  Archimedes' Paradox is really not a paradox at all.  Archimedes' Paradox is readily understood when considering fluid pressures.

Archimedes' Paradox in no way alters or provides any means to cheat conservation of energy, or the conservative nature of gravity.

Math models that are based on First Principles by definition cannot violate those principles and be correct.  If a violation occurs it is an error in the model definition and/or numerical error. 

And as all of this applies to Wayne Travis' / HER's / Zydro's claims to free energy machines:  Those are all lies.  WT/HER/Zydro have never had any device that output more energy than input.  Their claims are false on their face, and never has there ever been one iota of evidence to the contrary.

One can spend their entire life searching for the most sincere pumpkin patch in the world and it will not matter.  The Great Pumpkin never comes.

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