Where is this supposed external load and what does it do?I've looked, I've seen, I've laughed uncontrollably.

Ah, the fraud: Wayne Travis speaks again.  No Wayne you have never had, do not now have, and will never have the free energy machines you claim.

Skipped the fact and went for an insult...... yeah...

Did you learn that a series system is more efficient or not?

Can you admit to it or not -

Can you man up and tell Larry he was right or not?

Since you do not have the character to admit when you are wrong - you do not have the right to make claims against others - you have no value here.

A question or two.

If, in the video by Mark D., the production rams are being pushed up by the risers and that output is going into the accumulator that is also driving the assist rams, would that not mean then that the pressure from the production ram needs to be at least the internal pressure of the accumulator?

If that internal pressure from the accumulator is driving the assist rams and they are driving the dual ZED system,, is that not a volume issue? with the assist rams being a smaller diameter than the production rams.

Does it not follow then, that the volume consumed by the assist rams needs to be greater than that moved by the production rams in order for the accumulator to be used a "battery" for the system that was videoed?

What is the difference between the risers "popping" up or down?  That is to say, what if after lift they are allowed to "pop" but moving the risers down and the fluid out instead of up?

The nested Russian dolls of ignorance do not generate the free energy you claim.  You can keep suggesting that they do, but that is the fraud you have committed yourself to promoting.I don't admit things that are not true.LOL.  Keep pitching the lies there Wayne.LOL, the guy who has been cheating:  friends, family, and neighbors with his lies about non-existent free energy technology is accusing those who have pointed out those crimes of being unethical.  It's your shameless approach that's really awesome Wayne.  If you're good with continuing to build this record of scienter on your part, it's just fine with me.

Well Mark that would depend.

If the accumulator is being used as a battery, as has been alleged by the skeptics, then the output would be the assist rams.

Then the assist rams are the output and the accumulator is the input to those rams, but the production rams are working against the accumulator, pushing fluid into it under the pressure of the accumulator, so those pressures must be the same, the volume then,, it must be less coming out of the production rams than what is used by the assist rams,, but then where does the volume from the assist rams go?

I trust in Mark D's ability to make correct observations, and I trust that he would of pointed out if the production rams output went any where other than the accumulator and I also trust that he would of pointed out if anything else fed the assist rams or if the return lines from the assist rams went any where else besides the hydraulic circuit connecting everything together.

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #572 on: March 05, 2014, 02:54:46 PM »

I have been mentioned  in dispatches again !!!!!!!
Just to clear what ever has been said or assumed (most likely the latter) I offer the following.


1. I have visited Wayne, an met withmany members of his team on three occasions.
2. I also arranged introductions to other parties who have visited on several times advising on paths forward and assisting with advice on proof of concept requirements. (highly qualified engineers and scientists)
3. I have always maintained that on my first visit, I was impressed with the efforts, the team spirit and saw some results that were interesting. However it never passed my "two day test of self sustaining"
4. I have suggested as have  many of my friends I introduced, the the need for a POC device.
5. Wayne has many people, some very qualified working with him. I am not qualified to do analysis on:
a. Their calculations and assumptions.
b. Their methods of collecting and interpreting the data
c. Their overall theory
I have however on all three occasion suggested ways of obtaining data, and or suggesting what would be required to convince outside parties.


The engineering and building of prototypes have taken many paths over the years.


I have also been taken to task by many for not "debunking" this technology. Because of business negotiations that effect many of the people including volunteers and investors (which I am not involved in), I have refrained from setting a final time frame for a POC to be running.


On a personal note, this project has brought a lot of passion and interest from many people in Wayne s community and beyond. The real story is not always about the outcome but the journey. I look back at all my dozens of projects that never worked out, sometimes I got it very wrong.


So, I have not seen the data that convinces me, and I do hope to get to see and assist in evaluating a proof of concept one day. However until that day arrives I will continue my public stance as of interest but not supported by any data I have seen to date. Others who work with Wayne, many with engineering qualifications do believe in what they are doing and their calculations. I am a very simple person, and do not get involved in such matters until a working prototype is running run and data has been collected with acceptable methodologies.


This will be my only comment on this matter.


Kind Regards
Mark