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Author Topic: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED  (Read 749688 times)

MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2115 on: April 14, 2014, 03:34:40 PM »
To MarkE, MH, Powercat, and TK.
You have proven to be nothing but Ego inflated Trolls.
I have given you precious time and you gamed it.........assumptions, diversions, lies, manipulation's threats and attempts at suppression....
I wish any of you four were at least half the man Mark D is; he has proven how a true skeptic, a professional, and an honorable man.

To the rest of you: If you have a valid technical questions - I would be glad to answer it.
I have four days left..
Thanks
Wayne
The fraud:  Wayne Travis speaks.  Your time is worthless.  You have no technology to work develop. 

Is that a new promise to leave here forever:  again?  LOL.

mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2116 on: April 14, 2014, 03:37:27 PM »
The risers in your useless contraptions are no better than rocks.  Those who travel about in ferrocement boats might beg to differ.Here is a hint:  You speak clueless nonsense.  Buoyancy does not displace.  Buoyancy exerts buoyant force.  The buoyant force results from displaced fluid weight.Why don't you point out where this hydraulic output comes out of your useless contraption and show what external work it performs?Ah, it's morning and you are treating us to more of your meaningless bafflegab.The nested Russian dolls of ignorance  just do a bad job of emulating a compression spring.

You got me there MarkE,

It is nonsense to the clueless.. sorry - you may not know it - but for those of us who do understand the ZED - your rants are pretty humorously childish..

Jus saying.... it is your mouth running over.....with mudd

MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2117 on: April 14, 2014, 03:48:57 PM »
You got me there MarkE,

It is nonsense to the clueless.. sorry - you may not know it - but for those of us who do understand the ZED - your rants are pretty humorously childish..

Jus saying.... it is your mouth running over.....with mudd
There it is again:  "The Emperor's New ZED".  Only "smart" people "understand" that your fantastical claims are "true".  Translation:  Your claims are total BS.  Each process within your contraptions is an ordinary, lossy process.  The combination of those processes is a composite process more lossy than any of the individual processes.  You can tell your lies as often as you want.  You cannot deliver against them.  That is why like so many free energy charlatans who have come and gone before you, you must keep moving the goal posts on your investors.

mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2118 on: April 14, 2014, 03:52:12 PM »
No it does't Mr. Fraud.  Push down on the risers, and the weight of the displaced water and compressed air pushes them back against your effort.   That's what springs do:  exert force against the direction of motion.  Maybe you and your brain trust should brush up by getting a high school kid to tutor your team on basic mechanics.It's another early morning bafflegab treat!"jumps a transfer process" LOL.It's truly remarkable how hard you work to avoid describing energy input and energy output in your alleged free energy machine.  How much energy do you think 10cc of hydraulic fluid under 10 BAR has?  How much do you think 100cc of hydraulic fluid under 100 BAR has?LOL, the only thing that is "exponential" is your chutzpah.  The nested Russian dolls of ignorance simply apply Archimedes' Paradox.  Every dry dock in the world also applies the same principle.  It is not new.  It does not yield surplus energy.Such ignorance:  A compression spring expands towards its relaxed, IE zero energy state.  A ZED expands ... wait for it ... towards its relaxed, IE zero energy state.You have just demonstrated that the ZED does in fact emulate (poorly) a compression spring.


LOL you are the most arrogant clueless person I have ever read...

Might I suggest you stop trying to think for everyone else a bit...

Let me see if I get this right - you are a genius infallible protector of the current educational system..

And I am a dumb guber dufas, moron, idiot, .... whom has built several different Free energy machines...

Ok You got me,,,,,  lol

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p.s. since you think the Risers are rocks... they remain neutrally buoyant in the cycle up and down...they are counter balanced with remaining buoyancy......

The stored energy transfer only deals with the external load..... just saying...

As I keep suggesting - you should look at our system - not the one you keep trying to twist it into.

Thanks




TinselKoala

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2119 on: April 14, 2014, 03:57:17 PM »
SO DISPLAY YOUR SYSTEM, then, honest Wayne Travis, if you want it to be "looked at". 

BUT YOU WILL NOT, you never have.

What Dansie saw certainly didn't convince him.... and he WAS THERE WITH YOU, TWICE ... and you still couldn't convince him.

And why? You know why: it does not do what you claim.

mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2120 on: April 14, 2014, 04:03:14 PM »
There it is again:  "The Emperor's New ZED".  Only "smart" people "understand" that your fantastical claims are "true".  Translation:  Your claims are total BS.  Each process within your contraptions is an ordinary, lossy process.  The combination of those processes is a composite process more lossy than any of the individual processes.  You can tell your lies as often as you want.  You cannot deliver against them.  That is why like so many free energy charlatans who have come and gone before you, you must keep moving the goal posts on your investors.

MarkE,

The difference between you and I .......Omgosh..... I don't want to write another novel...

Lets just stick with one point - when I need to understand something - I seek people who can and will help.

You attack the teacher - you do not have a clue how our system actually works because you have so deluded yourself with what you think it us be.......

I can't teach you as long as you think you are the expert......

Your emperor clothes - is the "idea" that you can protect physics from advancing....

If you think a mechanical process must have an input to produce usable work - well that is old school - old skin - and every degree anyone has that says it can't be done - has a choice...

Stick in the past or come learn that improvements on the previous understanding are being made.

Intelligent men and women will recognize that history has always improved its physics....

And history has shown that some people resisted the changes with vile ignorance.... as you do here daily.

Good day.


mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2121 on: April 14, 2014, 04:08:05 PM »
SO DISPLAY YOUR SYSTEM, then, honest Wayne Travis, if you want it to be "looked at". 

BUT YOU WILL NOT, you never have.

What Dansie saw certainly didn't convince him.... and he WAS THERE WITH YOU, TWICE ... and you still couldn't convince him.

And why? You know why: it does not do what you claim.

TK, ?

I don't think you quite understand what you read - 

Take care..

TinselKoala

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2122 on: April 14, 2014, 04:26:23 PM »
TK, ?

I don't think you quite understand what you read - 

Take care..
I understand far more than you do, honest Wayne Travis.

I understand, for example, that a device, or mechanical process, has to have an OUTPUT to produce usable work.

minnie

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2123 on: April 14, 2014, 04:30:05 PM »



   mrwayne,
            a convincing bit of physics and math would teach MarkE a thing or two!
    So let's be having it - please mrwayne.
    You show us all what a good teacher you are, as you keep implying.
     The skeptics 'll soon shut up, I'm sure of that, they won't have a leg
     to stand on and you'll have the last laugh.
          John.

mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2124 on: April 14, 2014, 04:55:30 PM »


   mrwayne,
            a convincing bit of physics and math would teach MarkE a thing or two!
    So let's be having it - please mrwayne.
    You show us all what a good teacher you are, as you keep implying.
     The skeptics 'll soon shut up, I'm sure of that, they won't have a leg
     to stand on and you'll have the last laugh.
          John.

Hello John,

lol has he admitted anything yet? Never will.... lol

He still complains that series is a lossy system ---- of course he does not say - more lossy than a single column anymore....

MarkE has dug his own hole with his lies...
A person with a personal vendetta is not my concern.

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John, I also know you are just being cute...in hope that I will offer something new to be insulted..... for a decimal....so you can find a hole to exploit....

Like -

No thanks.

The ZED worked as described, and we have even better systems now.




mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2125 on: April 14, 2014, 04:58:57 PM »
I understand far more than you do, honest Wayne Travis.

I understand, for example, that a device, or mechanical process, has to have an OUTPUT to produce usable work.

It is your job to exploit holes.... so I will leave that alone....

mrwayne

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2126 on: April 14, 2014, 05:18:47 PM »
John,

Which is more efficient - the Travis Effect a in Toms video number 5, or the Archimedes'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_MLjkt8ti4

Now each time you add a layer to the ZED, the Travis effect improves its performance.

Three layers and a Pod (instead of a brick) broke the Force fallacy.

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ALL attempts to use buoyancy as a free energy device failed to convert the force into energy to reproduce the input.

All single column equalization systems could not break that barrier...

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The ZED reverses that position - the Series system allowed Buoyancy to produce enough force to exceed the energy input.

Let that soak in - if one mechanical way force looses - the energy balance - increasing the force faster/more than the input increase - creates a new value to exploit.

Best of all - three layers is not the limit..... add more and more.... the force over input value continues to grow.

Force amplification - resulting in excess energy - is the new physics....

The old physics - made the assumption it was impossible --- I decided to test the theory - not defend the past.

Take Care

p.s. for fun - add a couple of layers to MarkE spread sheet - it should become clear..

Wayne




MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2127 on: April 14, 2014, 05:25:46 PM »


LOL you are the most arrogant clueless person I have ever read...

Might I suggest you stop trying to think for everyone else a bit...

Let me see if I get this right - you are a genius infallible protector of the current educational system..
You may very well think that, but I could not possibly comment.
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And I am a dumb guber dufas, moron, idiot, .... whom has built several different Free energy machines...
You are a fraud who presents false claims as to what you have built.  And you assert statements that betray ignorance of basic science.
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Ok You got me,,,,,  lol
Many peopel have "got" you and your carnival barker routine.  The question is:  Where does that end?
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p.s. since you think the Risers are rocks... they remain neutrally buoyant in the cycle up and down...they are counter balanced with remaining buoyancy......
The risers perform no differently than rocks.  Rocks are in many cases more useful than the risers in your useless contraptions.
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The stored energy transfer only deals with the external load..... just saying...
Yes, you are "just saying".  You do that a lot.  It is called lying.  Where is this supposed external load and what does it do?
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As I keep suggesting - you should look at our system - not the one you keep trying to twist it into.

Thanks
I've looked, I've seen, I've laughed uncontrollably.

MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2128 on: April 14, 2014, 05:43:45 PM »
MarkE,

The difference between you and I .......Omgosh..... I don't want to write another novel...

Lets just stick with one point - when I need to understand something - I seek people who can and will help.
We've seen the caliber of help that you've enlisted who've posted to this board.  It's not very impressive.
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You attack the teacher - you do not have a clue how our system actually works because you have so deluded yourself with what you think it us be.......
There it is again: Your false suggestion that you have some technology to reveal.  You don't.  You've laid your lies out and they have been seen for the BS that they are.
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I can't teach you as long as you think you are the expert......
From your demonstrated horrifically bad understanding of science you couldn't correctly teach an eleven year old.
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Your emperor clothes - is the "idea" that you can protect physics from advancing....
Physics has been doing just fine.  Your attempt to retread 2000 year old understanding as something new and name it after yourself is hysterically funny.  It sort of reminds me of the various "Planet of the Apes" productions where the simians would come across something simple like a lens and declare:  "I've discovered an 'expander'!".  The video set by Tom was particular fun.
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If you think a mechanical process must have an input to produce usable work - well that is old school - old skin - and every degree anyone has that says it can't be done - has a choice...
If you think that you can violate first principles, then you are free to try and make your argument.  Very strong evidence is required.  Unfortunately for you, you haven't got any evidence in your favor.
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Stick in the past or come learn that improvements on the previous understanding are being made.
Ah there it is:  The appeals to motherhood and apple pie.  Tell us about the scourge that is befalling Chickasha with the opening of a ... oh my gosh ... could it be ... school!  And that rhymes with ... pool.  No, what Chickasha needs to save its boys is a band!
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Intelligent men and women will recognize that history has always improved its physics....
This is true despite charlatans like yourself who burn people with their phony claims.
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And history has shown that some people resisted the changes with vile ignorance.... as you do here daily.
Sure, why there have been so many things that you've taught:  There was the Travis Effect, no that isn't it, because there is no Travis Effect, that was your co-opt of Archimedes' Paradox.  Oh, so then there was the over unity three riser system.  No, that's not it, three risers or a hundred, multiple risers don't make over unity.  Oh, then it must be those revelations that the disciples of duplicity were going to share.  No, that's not it, they have had to be corrected regularly.  Oh, well, maybe you will think of something Wayne.  maybe I won't be the first to correctly guess your BoP number.
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Good day.
It's a wonderful day.  Viva!  Las Vegas!

MarkE

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Re: Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED
« Reply #2129 on: April 14, 2014, 05:45:30 PM »
Hello John,

lol has he admitted anything yet? Never will.... lol

He still complains that series is a lossy system ---- of course he does not say - more lossy than a single column anymore....

MarkE has dug his own hole with his lies...
A person with a personal vendetta is not my concern.

...................

John, I also know you are just being cute...in hope that I will offer something new to be insulted..... for a decimal....so you can find a hole to exploit....

Like -

No thanks.

The ZED worked as described, and we have even better systems now.
Ah, the fraud: Wayne Travis speaks again.  No Wayne you have never had, do not now have, and will never have the free energy machines you claim.