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Offline FreeEnergy

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« Last Edit: May 29, 2007, 10:25:41 PM by FreeEnergy »

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GEET FUEL PROCESSOR
« on: August 22, 2006, 12:26:17 PM »

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Re: GEET FUEL PROCESSOR
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2006, 04:14:31 PM »
hi FreeEnergy,

the vedio looks pretty legit.  he also has posted how to make one here    http://www.teslatech.info/ttstore/articles/geet/geet.htm

after doing all that, why would they put him in jail.  check out this  here   http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/Geet/index.html

i haven't read all the post there yet, but did notice this     
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Charges of Fraud
I am aware that Paul Pantone is under investigation by UT Attorney General's office  and has charges filed against him.  My overall impression is that GEET (from which Pantone is now divested) is a genuine business venture, with real product.  I've seen their devices in action.  Perhaps they have not been that great in how they have handled their financial affairs, but I have some empathy there.  Enthusiastic over estimating deadlines and abilities is one thing, outright misrepresentation for illicit gain is another.  I do not believe that Pantone or GEET are guilty of the latter. -- Sterling D. Allan

i guess if we read enough we can form our own opinion.

tbird

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Re: GEET FUEL PROCESSOR
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2006, 10:30:11 PM »
Nice to see Joe Newman back also in this video and
some other interesting people...
I always wondered if the Dennis Lee heat pump
is already a selfrunning machine ?

Looks from ths video this way... but Lee is also a good
actor and salesman, so I would like to see this demonstrated by a different
more technical person.

Who is the real inventor of this heat pump-motor/generator ?

Thanks.

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Re: GEET FUEL PROCESSOR
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2006, 10:30:11 PM »
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Re: GEET FUEL PROCESSOR
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2014, 04:48:04 AM »
Greetings all i have been doing research in this area  for a long time. i got on board in 1980. My friends grand dad invented the first vaporizer, it obtained 90 mpg and without the need for carb, or spark plug.


1919 1924 patents  original inventor of our modern day technology?  Mr White. This has to be unveiled by this forum so i am here to tell you its this simple.

every one get on board its so easy to get 100 mpg plus..

http://open-source-energy.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=OYN9wS2xKfV,,zgy0nqkC0;topic=337.msg28637#new


Re: Electric vaporizer 90 mpg


What is the forum waiting for?    New invention by freethisone. invention free this one. read here for a brief outlook.

Now for my simple incorporation of a ultrasonic traducer in a fuel tank. take a transducer, put in a cup of gas. observe the effect. a vapour may appear, now pressurize it, and take a psi reading. does it increase.

I say yes.

does this alow me to add a half a cup of water to the mix? perhaps.

as for magnetic fluids, and geet reactors. as for tesla turbines. steam turbines to plasma fuel turbines new invention.


 get a lawnmower and test these advancements.  other proven ideas. Please support Clyde as the founder of the modern day e cigarette, or fuel injector.

need help? This is simple work. wanna get rich? invest in the largest manufactures.  that is to motivate you to do this for the forum.

freethis


up to 5 X fuel savings cost. i can show you how.. thisfreeone freethisone.

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Re: GEET FUEL PROCESSOR
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2014, 07:50:57 AM »
this concept works, and it also it can be turned to fuel see movie link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZoiY3FvxKo 8)

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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: GEET FUEL PROCESSOR
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2016, 05:57:48 PM »
I never really paid any attention to this story over the years,...
I think it was because of the way Paul talked about this technology. just seemed... (fishy?)
anyways, he died last month, and it caught national attention, so I gave it a good look over.

Now,.. I'm not here to advocate or refute anything in the GEET process.
What I have found, may help anyone interested in what Paul Pantone was doing

Understand a bit more about this process.

I want to take you guys back, about 100 yrs ago.
there was another man named Paul.
Paul Sabatier
a French chemist, that found, at certain temperatures: CO2 + 4H2 -> CH4 + 2H2O + Energy
∆H = −165.0 kJ/mol
(note: an ICE operates at about half the ideal Sabatier Temperature, so the actual reaction is slower)

Thermal Decomposition of water at this temperature, occurs at a rate of ~0.035% by volume.
Combine this with free carbon dioxide in the air intake.....
we have the makings of a Sabatier fuel injector, which in principal should add energy to the fuel system.

This is without looking at the particulars of the GEET system.
This is well founded scientific principal. Because of this, I was willing to give this machine some serious consideration.

Allow me to state:
 I believe Paul Pantone was self-deluded to the point of his own detriment.
Every attempt he made to describe his machine leads to more confusion and more questions.
His talks about "plasma energy", and even trying to attribute his results to the peltier effect of steel vs stainless, etc.
He clearly did not know what was going on, only that it worked...

and he tinkered with this to his dying day, even after being held in a psychward for years.
(he pled insanity to charges of ripping off his investors, and they held him for a long time)
At face value, he looks like a scammer, but to his defense he has a few things on his side.

1) most of his major debunkers never really examined the device. many of the claims against it's functionality were made mostly from 'disbelief'. (he did take money from investors and not fulfill his side of the contract)
2) his friends and family vouch for the operation of his engines, even after his death. <- this, to me, gives some worthiness of investigation.

So, lets take a look at this thing....

As stated by the inventor, the effect occurs at a state where the engine is already running, and up to temperature.
So, we have the water heated by the exhaust to the Sabatier temperature.
We have CO2 from the air.
We have H2 from thermal disassociation.
We have Methane, from the Sabatier Reaction
now, he bubbles this back through the water.-- this does two things:
it filters the water back out from the Sabatier Reaction, back into the reservoir.
but also, within the bubbling, there is allowed for increased temperatures (above the normal ICE temp)
These temperatures fluctuate within a range of pressures and volumes of the bubbles,
and increase the rate of thermal disassociation. Allowing for more water molecules to separate, accelerating the Sabatier Reaction that generates the fuel.

Once there is enough heat to start the reaction, it sustains itself, and releases more energy than it consumes.
kind of like lighting a strip of Magnesium.
This is why he has to "prime" it with gasoline to start it, then it can run on water and air.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabatier_reaction

This in a nut-shell describes what (could be) the operating principal of this device.
As far as the actual values of energy involved, amount of fuel production over time, etc.
which would be necessary to build a working engine.....
this will change from engine to engine, heat produced, volume of cylinders, stroke distance,
how much fuel is needed, etc.
So, to simplify analysis, it would be advised to choose a standard test platform.

That's my take on it anyways. There might be something here worth looking into.





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Re: GEET FUEL PROCESSOR
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2016, 02:52:05 PM »
SmOKy2
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 this, to me, gives some worthiness of investigation.
end quote

Sir,
 do you have a specific direction in Mind ??

I know we could muster some proper and quite thorough builds and investigations ...

respectfully
Chet K


« Last Edit: January 25, 2016, 11:08:44 PM by ramset »

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