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Author Topic: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?  (Read 16407 times)

magnetman12003

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What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« on: February 04, 2014, 01:34:24 AM »
Are there any corporation, company, or organizations that are not afraid to rock the big oil interest boat and purchase upstart free energy devices and possibly market them? 
If so please post them here including address and list persons to contact working there.
I see many catagorys listed in this forum except the above where a person might try to either sell or market their new idea or device.
I hope this posting draws a lot of attention.

Newton II

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2014, 05:35:56 AM »
You have to build two devices.  One device which shows just perpetual motion and not of any practical use.  Another device fit for practical and commercial use.   With first device you have to make scientific community to believe that perpetual motion / overunity is possible. Once scientific community accepts that overunity is possible,  you have to push through the second commercial device.  These two devices should work on different priciples.  If not scientists are intelligent enough to grasp the idea and develop it.

Unless you make scientific community to accept that overunity is possible,  nobody would dare to purchase a OU device since lot of fakery and fraud is involved in it.

magnetman12003

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2014, 06:19:11 AM »
You have to build two devices.  One device which shows just perpetual motion and not of any practical use.  Another device fit for practical and commercial use.   With first device you have to make scientific community to believe that perpetual motion / overunity is possible. Once scientific community accepts that overunity is possible,  you have to push through the second commercial device.  These two devices should work on different priciples.  If not scientists are intelligent enough to grasp the idea and develop it.

Unless you make scientific community to accept that overunity is possible,  nobody would dare to purchase a OU device since lot of fakery and fraud is involved in it.

I have heard that the word overunity ( Perpetual Motion) means you have built a continuous self runner.  If thats the case no one yet has done that as you can not power something from nothing.  Hovever you can use a tiny force to trip a huge force to operate a device  The huge foce may come from some unknown energy source.  My generator cant power itself from the output of a huge force.
 In other words its almost human in the fact that "We dont eat what we excrete".     Check  out my below video link.
Any ideas ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ifzVJ30o-A
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Newton II

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2014, 08:39:29 AM »
Just by seeing the video it is difficult to assertain what is happenning in there. 

I assume that coil is fed with AC ( converted from 24V DC), rotor is magnetic material and output coil is wound over input coil.  I can think of only flux addition happening in that device.  The huge magnetic material rotor used produces its own flux by induction which is getting added with the flux produced by the coil, so you are getting magnified out put from the secondary. This addition of flux matters I think is already discussed in several threads in this forum.  This arrangement is same as adding a secondary coil on the stator winding of an induction motor for example a simple AC fan with solid rotor.  Inaddition you have provided some electronic circuit.

I think gyulasun is the right person to comment on this....   over to gyulasun.



memoryman

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2014, 03:26:15 AM »
That question: "What industries are interested in promoting  free energy?" is purely hypothetical; make and conclusively demonstrate one, and the world WILL beat a path to your door. I personally know people who will bring it to market, but no such device has been demonstrated.

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2014, 01:21:23 PM »
That question: "What industries are interested in promoting  free energy?" is purely hypothetical; make and conclusively demonstrate one, and the world WILL beat a path to your door. I personally know people who will bring it to market, but no such device has been demonstrated.

Well, memoryman, since you "personally know people", it would be delightful to me, and, I would think, to the OP magnetman, if you would simply divulge the identity and contact information of the HELPFUL PEOPLE.

IDENTITY........

CONTACT INFORMATION.....



thx, you so sweet... ::)

memoryman

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2014, 01:55:38 PM »
CANGAS, I will not do that until I personally am sure that the device performs as claimed. Why would I divulge the identity of people who trust me? 

vasik041

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2014, 02:53:11 PM »
I guess nobody interested in doing R&D and develop something.
But everyone want get working device and do money selling it :-)
In other words, no industries are interested in promoting  free energy.
 :-X

memoryman

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2014, 03:08:59 PM »
vasik041, we differ on where to spend our resources of time and money. I personally am involved in Thorium applications; that does not qualify as 'free energy', but that has a much greater probability of producing a real product than gravity, magnet motor or similar efforts.
Most organisations look at the risk/benefit ratio of investing.
You can do things for profit and still help others; these are not mutually exclusive, as I pointed out to several inventors.

vasik041

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2014, 03:40:38 PM »
Well, I agree, profit and common good are not mutually exclusive.
In my understanding Free Energy is more about freedom rather than cheap energy prices. If we would spend same money (=efforts) developing FE as we spend e.g. developing computer screens or mobile phones we would have FE powering every home by now :-)
But I don't think that guys like you will ever invest in others people freedom... but  keep developing some well centralized and easy controllable techs...
Please don't take it personal. I have nothing against you and have no intention to abuse you.

memoryman

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2014, 03:58:01 PM »
All energy is 'free'; the extraction and conversion to a usable form is not free. Freedom is not absolute or even real: it is a choice we make as individuals. It is an interpretation of our what happens around us.
"But I don't think that guys like you will ever invest in others people freedom... but  keep developing some well centralized and easy controllable techs..." interesting, you know nothing about me, and yet you already have an opinion...You actually sound bitter and resigned.
Most people don't care whether the energy they use comes from 'free' energy or not. Thorium is a plentiful energy source with few drawbacks; it can supply us with our energy needs for thousands of years.
I liken the search for OU devices to the 'dangling carrot'; while the horse chases the carrot, he is oblivious to the easily accessible food around him.

vasik041

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2014, 04:54:56 PM »
I said "you" because I understand your words

"I personally am involved in Thorium applications; that does not qualify as 'free energy', but that has a much greater probability of producing a real product than gravity, magnet motor or similar efforts. Most organisations look at the risk/benefit ratio of investing. "

in a way that you in the the company of people who care more about profit rather common sense...

Everyone have to make a choice, whether behave as a human or as a horse  :)


memoryman

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2014, 05:40:38 PM »
You look at it as am absolute choice; either/or. You can also see it as both/and. I am not talking about 'the truth', but an empowering way to live a life. And I am very much involved in empowering people, in a very practical way. (I am the chair of a small charity, committed to having unemployed people get back into the workplace)

vasik041

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2014, 05:55:12 PM »
Interesting.

So, what brought you to this forum ? Why you are  interested in Free Energy ?




memoryman

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2014, 06:34:19 PM »
I have been interested in the energy field for decades (not necessarily for personal gain).
I have followed several threads for years, here and on PESN, and I am a moderator on Revolution-Green.
Just have not bothered to register here before.
I am not here to lecture or convince posters, but offer an alternative view; not the 'truth' but a view that nobody has to accept.
In the past I have followed interesting articles; many of your posters (MarkE, TinselKoala to name two) are very knowledgable and I learn from them.
Some have become friends with me.