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## Electric vehicles => Electric cars => Topic started by: magnetman12003 on February 04, 2014, 12:30:04 AM

Title: OVERUNITY GENERATOR
Post by: magnetman12003 on February 04, 2014, 12:30:04 AM
Forget for now the motor part you see in the video.  Just concentrate on the 7 wall now fully lit 120/220 volt AC led lamp burning with 3 watts of power from a 24 volt DC power source.

Title: Re: OVERUNITY GENERATOR
Post by: TinselKoala on February 04, 2014, 01:03:30 AM
Well, you got one thing right, that's for sure:

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If that ain't overunity I don't know what the hell is.
Title: Re: OVERUNITY GENERATOR
Post by: hoptoad on February 04, 2014, 07:41:19 AM
Video begins: 23.7 volts shown on battery.
Video middle: 23.6 volts .........
Video end:     23.5 volts .........
U/U
Title: Re: OVERUNITY GENERATOR
Post by: quantumtangles on May 25, 2014, 03:07:35 PM
If you still think overunity possible but are nonetheless possessed even of a vestigial central nervous system, check out the units of mass of elementary particles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Standard_Model_of_Elementary_Particles.svg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Standard_Model_of_Elementary_Particles.svg)

Notice anything?

So that you know, the energy of these particles is measured in units known as Gigaelectron volts (GeV and sometimes MeV).

The energy of these elementary particles is derived from Einstein's equation E=MC2.

GEv [Energy] = M[mass]*C2[speed of light squared]
Therefore
Mass = electron volts [Energy] / C2 [divided by the speed of light squared]

What part of this is difficult to understand?

Put in the lowest form of abstraction I am capable of, know this. Mass and energy are entirely interchangeable and entirely equivalent with one another (after applying the speed of light squared as a constant).

Accordingly, just as you cannot get more water [mass] out of the end of a hose pipe than you put into the other end of it in the first place (for example from a tap), so too you cannot get more energy out of any system than you supply it with in the first place. Energy behaves in precisely the same way as mass in terms of compliance with the second law of thermodynamics. You cannot get more water out of a hose pipe than it has been supplied with. So too, you cannot get more energy out of a piece of copper wire than you supply it with.

I can only explain it to you. I cannot understand it for you.
Title: Re: OVERUNITY GENERATOR
Post by: Paul-R on May 25, 2014, 03:27:33 PM
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Accordingly, just as you cannot get more water [mass] out of the end of a hose pipe than you put into the other end of it in the first place (for example from a tap), so too you cannot get more energy out of any system than you supply it with in the first place.
The whole point of this web site is that this statement is true but pointless.

The energy arrives but it is not YOU that supplies it. You should do more reading.
Title: Re: OVERUNITY GENERATOR
Post by: quantumtangles on May 25, 2014, 03:45:09 PM
Your fallacy is that of deliberate misinterpretation. By the word 'you', it is quite clear I mean 'one' or indeed 'any entity by any means'.

Let me be plain. If energy is by any means supplied to a length of copper wire (or indeed to any combination of active or passive electronic components), it is not possible by any means to extract more energy from that piece of copper wire (or from any combination of components, regardless how arcane or complex they may be), than was originally supplied in the first place.

Why do I persist in trying to explain reality. I am not quite sure. Perhaps it is because the very few things of which I can be certain have been certainties earned at great cost and after great effort on my part. Perhaps that is why pseudo-science is so difficult for me to tolerate. On the other hand, perhaps I am part of a global conspiracy engineered by all of the major oil companies in concert so as to prevent the 'truth' about free energy ever being revealed to an increasingly vulnerable and ignorant public...let me think about that last one for a moment............no...sadly thats not true...though I could sure use a pay packet from a major oil company.

It really has become a cult with you people, that is to say, a belief system rather than a matter of scientific analysis. All cults have built in self defence mechanisms (for example that the greatest sin of all, for which there is no forgiveness, is not to believe). The self defence mechanism of the free energy cult is that there is a global conspiracy by oil companies to keep people in the dark about so called free energy.

But let me ask you this. If the major oil companies already know about free energy and have bought up all the patents and silenced all the enigmatrons who invented these great machines, why bother pulling dirty oil out of the ground at great expense? Why not just charge everyone for using their currently secret (yet riproariously well patented) free energy generators?

The answer my dear boy is that free energy is a myth and free energy cultists are uneducated fantasists.
Title: Re: OVERUNITY GENERATOR
Post by: Paul-R on May 25, 2014, 03:56:24 PM

Let me be plain. If energy is by any means supplied to a length of copper wire (or indeed to any combination of active or passive electronic components), it is not possible by any means to extract more energy from that piece of copper wire (or from any combination of components, regardless how arcane or complex they may be), than was originally supplied in the first place.

Please prove that there are no exceptions to this rule of yours.
Title: Re: OVERUNITY GENERATOR
Post by: quantumtangles on May 25, 2014, 04:01:34 PM
Please prove that there are no exceptions to this rule of yours.

I suggest I have done so already...referring in this regard to the above equation and its derivative. However, I accept that if Einstein was incorrect concerning E=MC2 (outwith decades of experimental evidence to the contrary), then I am wrong and cannot prove it.
Title: Re: OVERUNITY GENERATOR
Post by: Paul-R on May 25, 2014, 04:14:30 PM
I suggest I have done so already...
When you know ten times more about this subject than you know now, then, like the rest of us, you will acquire the humility to understand that you are on the bottom rung of a ladder with one thousand steps.

At the moment, you are not even on that ladder.
Title: Re: OVERUNITY GENERATOR
Post by: quantumtangles on May 25, 2014, 04:16:26 PM
By the way, if you are the inventor of the Roche hybrid electric engine (his name is Paul), it is an interesting device :) well done.
Title: Re: OVERUNITY GENERATOR
Post by: Paul-R on May 25, 2014, 04:35:59 PM
By the way, if you are the inventor of the Roche hybrid electric engine (his name is Paul), it is an interesting device :) well done.

You mean GB 2505082? Not me.

I think it is an example of a device which does two jobs, neither properly. The magnetic component is described in Patrick's Chapter 1.
Title: Re: OVERUNITY GENERATOR
Post by: quantumtangles on May 25, 2014, 04:55:14 PM
Patrick's Chapter 1 is just the introduction and survey but thanks for the reference. Augmenting your observation about my ignorance, I was unaware of this fine publication before you mentioned it
Title: Re: OVERUNITY GENERATOR
Post by: FatBird on May 25, 2014, 10:40:06 PM
@ Magnetman12003

Please post a schematic or wiring diagram, & IGNORE the Trolls & Nay Sayers

Thank you for sharing your video.
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