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Author Topic: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor  (Read 178572 times)

Offline DilJalaay

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #75 on: February 05, 2014, 08:08:05 PM »
I think this is not a such complicated system which need laboratory or special equipment.
I think only careful inspection is enough to judge it whether it is true or fake.


If he allow me to inspect his device then it is not a big deal for me to judge it.

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #75 on: February 05, 2014, 08:08:05 PM »

Offline MarkE

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #76 on: February 05, 2014, 08:16:54 PM »
I think this is not a such complicated system which need laboratory or special equipment.
I think only careful inspection is enough to judge it whether it is true or fake.


If he allow me to inspect his device then it is not a big deal for me to judge it.
DilJalaay if Wasif were serious he would submit to laboratory testing.  Such testing is available in Pakistan.   Among other things, the lack of reaction torque proves that Wasif is lying.  If you want to visit him by all means do.  You will not find that he has a working free energy machine.

Offline memoryman

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #77 on: February 05, 2014, 08:25:53 PM »
I exchanged several posts on FB with Wasif Kahloon.
He says that nobody is allowed to touch it. (no close examination)
He also claims that he will open source the device soon, after "helping the poor in Pakistan'. No response to my suggestion that he open source NOW and also help his people.
IMHO, this will never be a real product.

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #77 on: February 05, 2014, 08:25:53 PM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #78 on: February 05, 2014, 08:25:56 PM »
Mike E
I worked as a freelance for test labs all my Life ,there are all sorts of stipulations attached to "Qualifying" a claim,this could just be one layer
of Qualification available to a man who is open sourcing his device .


@DJ
You are a good man to offer this service to the community,I assure you if he needs qualified eyes as part of this visit we can do that.
However since I last spoke with him the fellows here have pointed out some very true observations with  legitimate concerns.[almost from the first post of this thread {TinMan's "sounds 50 hz funny claim" ]]


If he does not respond to your call let me know I do have other Numbers.


Personally I think this is more an opportunity for "what we can do" as a community instead of always complaining about how things come our way.
you want change? Be that change…….


Respectfully
Chet

Offline MarkE

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #79 on: February 05, 2014, 08:38:41 PM »
Mike E
I worked as a freelance for test labs all my Life ,there are all sorts of stipulations attached to "Qualifying" a claim,this could just be one layer
of Qualification available to a man who is open sourcing his device .


@DJ
You are a good man to offer this service to the community,I assure you if he needs qualified eyes as part of this visit we can do that.
However since I last spoke with him the fellows here have pointed out some very true observations with  legitimate concerns.[almost from the first post of this thread {TinMan's "sounds 50 hz funny claim" ]]


If he does not respond to your call let me know I do have other Numbers.


Personally I think this is more an opportunity for "what we can do" as a community instead of always complaining about how things come our way.
you want change? Be that change…….


Respectfully
Chet
Chet, a dynamometer test of the "motor" would instantly reveal that the "motor" doesn't work as claimed, which is obvious from the videos, or it would establish Wasif's claims that his magnet "motor" can drive a 5hp load at 80rpm.  A real test lab with a real dynamometer would for safety purposes alone stipulate a much more robust coupling than a hose clamp and soft compression spring.

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #79 on: February 05, 2014, 08:38:41 PM »
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Offline forest

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #80 on: February 05, 2014, 08:42:06 PM »
If you want a magnetic motor you will probably need a custom magnetized magnets. That's true also for any other OU. Basically parts available are made specifically to avoid any OU. Think that way : OU is rare, accidents are rare, are they related ? YES, they are the same, and because every commercial system HAS TO AVOID accidents it won't work if you follow what is available ...


Offline DilJalaay

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #81 on: February 05, 2014, 08:53:10 PM »
Respected Sirs,
A few years ago this video came in to my attention.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZb05BaRmqU


Now the original person ytube ac is disabled.


I want your opinions on that sir,


Regards,
D.J

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #81 on: February 05, 2014, 08:53:10 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #82 on: February 05, 2014, 10:56:18 PM »
There are lots of demonstrations available of "satellite motors" where a completely passive-seeming thing can be rotated quite well by some changing magnetic fields happening well out of the video frame. This is nothing new, it's nothing unusual and it definitely doesn't indicate "self running". Obviously the video above doesn't contain enough information to rule this method out or in. Just as obviously.... the world isn't full of these magnet motors, even though that video is years old.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuVtKYfSDI8

Offline Jimboot

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #83 on: February 05, 2014, 10:56:40 PM »
Respected Sirs,
A few years ago this video came in to my attention.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZb05BaRmqU


Now the original person ytube ac is disabled.


I want your opinions on that sir,


Regards,
D.J


The general consensus at the time was that there was probably an air blower out of shot blowing the device. As it had a soundtrack added it was immediately suspect.

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #83 on: February 05, 2014, 10:56:40 PM »
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #84 on: February 05, 2014, 10:57:46 PM »
Respected Sirs,
A few years ago this video came in to my attention.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZb05BaRmqU


Now the original person ytube ac is disabled.


I want your opinions on that sir,


Regards,
D.J
Given his opaque table there isn't much to see.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #85 on: February 05, 2014, 10:59:19 PM »
So there you go. At least two ways of "faking" the video are easy to arrange, without even breaking a sweat.

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #85 on: February 05, 2014, 10:59:19 PM »
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Offline Jimboot

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #86 on: February 06, 2014, 03:00:15 AM »
So there you go. At least two ways of "faking" the video are easy to arrange, without even breaking a sweat.


Yeah what was that whipmag one.... *ducks*

Offline MarkE

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #87 on: February 06, 2014, 03:10:40 AM »

Yeah what was that whipmag one.... *ducks*
I thought that such things were beyond discussion outside of an interrogation room at Gitmo.

Offline ramset

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #88 on: February 06, 2014, 10:27:00 AM »
MarkE
Appologies for the "MikeE" ,I'm not to good at doing ten things at once anymore.


RE :The Whipmag "it take a liken and keeps on Whippin "


Has an "OU" all its own…….


Chet

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #89 on: February 06, 2014, 12:00:33 PM »
Let me tell you then, if I myself stumble in my research upon anything that breaks the sitting paradigm of science, I will submit myself and my equipment to all tests and controls that I can take, including skype assemblies or whatever, as Tinselkoala suggests.... including open sourcing it all, as far as I am concerned.


Who more here is willing to say this?
Must we ask this from all members to make sure who we are dealing with?
The lust for freedom is usually stronger than such a decided commitment...


Btw, speaking about Sterling Alllen, he has more than a few pages of does and don'ts for all who can claim an invention in this branch of research.


see e.g. http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Open_Source_Your_Free_Energy_Technology

 

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