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Author Topic: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor  (Read 178627 times)

Offline mscoffman

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2014, 10:52:32 PM »
What is really needed is a mechanical shaft to shaft coupler with a torque
comparator and shaft direction measurement that produces an indicator
arrow display that indicates which direction the torque vector flows to.

It's just too easy to have a generator be a motor or vice versa.

If I where to design a fake it would have two modes. One to make the
magnet part operate unloaded to fool Sterling. And a then reed switch
to let "generator" shaft run from utility power along with the other stuff.

What I would need for video proof of operation is:

What I would need to see on the Internet is the device suspended from
the ceiling on a relatively clear nylon rope(s) with two infrared bathroom light/heat bulbs
pointed downward onto a device on UPS that can detect a one second infrared light
drop out and turn on an indicator lamp (on utility power) if it detects that happening.
Next to it a clock that can read 24 hours time and date. A locked room etc. A piece
of cardboard before and after the run would be used to interrupt the infrared optical
beam and show that the detector works.

This would not be proof but as close to proof as possible on the internet.
It would help put the critics on notice that their jig is nearly up.

I need this as proof for every and any contending device. MagnaCoaster, Midtek, Yildez.............
Their device would not consider real unless they did this.


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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2014, 10:52:32 PM »

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2014, 01:51:42 AM »
Look closely guys, this is fake, if he did not do the bulb test he had been credible, notice there are two holes at the board and ground where he aligns the machine for electrical connection hidden under, so why nail it to the ground? Because of vibration? I don't think so  :P  Then as he starts the machine, simultaneously closing the magnet motor suddenly the bulb went on, even if the generator isn't up to speed, likely there's a switch connected somewhere, and when he stops it, why he applied brake to the motor and quickly opened the motor? Rather than letting it gradually slow down to see if the lights dimmed down? Fake!  :P

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2014, 02:39:03 AM »
When looking on another video in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yodY1jH5j-I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCMuDBajFjU

I could not see any hidden wires/etc in the yard there.
And also the magnetic motor is not utopia - as long as you bend basic physics laws for magnetic pull, push and creation of bloch wall in correct time. Then strong neodium magnets can power kilowatts of load without problem... ;)
The Gary effect might be involved there too - http://www.rexresearch.com/gary/gary1.htm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3f8v9bjx7g and that goes to the very old days - Canadian Patent #10239 (July 16, 1879). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4GAwD3c7jI
« Last Edit: February 04, 2014, 04:02:49 AM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2014, 02:39:03 AM »
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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2014, 05:45:35 AM »
When looking on another video in http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1asgtf_challange-to-the-engineers_tech I could not see any hidden wires/etc in the yard there.
And also the magnetic motor is not utopia - as long as you bend basic physics laws for magnetic pull, push and creation of bloch wall in correct time. Then strong neodium magnets can power kilowatts of load without problem... ;)
The Gary effect might be involved there too - http://www.rexresearch.com/gary/gary1.htm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3f8v9bjx7g and that goes to the very old days - Canadian Patent #10239 (July 16, 1879). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4GAwD3c7jI

He should detach the 'alternator' from the generator and let the generator operate on it's own. That would settle the most obvious source of fraud. Yet he doesn't...if I had an alleged 'free energy' device like this, this would be the first thing I would demonstrate.

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2014, 11:53:12 AM »
When looking on another video in http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1asgtf_challange-to-the-engineers_tech I could not see any hidden wires/etc in the yard there.
And also the magnetic motor is not utopia - as long as you bend basic physics laws for magnetic pull, push and creation of bloch wall in correct time. Then strong neodium magnets can power kilowatts of load without problem... ;)
The Gary effect might be involved there too - http://www.rexresearch.com/gary/gary1.htm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3f8v9bjx7g and that goes to the very old days - Canadian Patent #10239 (July 16, 1879). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4GAwD3c7jI


I was reffering with this video, the wires are hidden underneath the soil where he nailed the motor to make a connection from mains.

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2014, 11:53:12 AM »
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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2014, 12:41:23 PM »
This is a copy paste of an fb discussion.





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Wasif Kahloon .this magnet machine runs with the power of magnets that runs the generator specifically design on low rpm, which neither the violation of rules or law of conservation.The Magnets used in it are guaranteed not to lose their magnetism in 36,000 hours if used in the way they are adjusted in this machine . The total number of magnets are 182 which are closely spaced but do not come into direct contact with each other and therefore do not lose their magnetism in 36,000 hours.Associated electricity generating dynamo runs at 80 to 150 rpm to produce 3.5 KW. If increased to 300 to 750 rpm with a better dynamo it can produce 5 MW using better copper, steal and magnets. It will require 4 windings per MW.It produces pure sinewave AC current through auto-control kit.It requires low maintainance which would only be required for bearing only after one year of continuous working. The cost of maintenance is very low and is less than 5-7 percent of the price of the machine after 5 years which will be readily affordable.Using the same technology, a specially designed magnet machine for the car is under process that will be able to run 1000cc 4000cc engine for 24000 hrs without loosing any magnetic power. The maintenance of the magnet machine in the car would also be low and lower than an ordinary petrol engine and can be managed by an ordinary mechanic.Challenge to all Engineers We challenge any one to come and see this magnet machine working. It is not just a theoretical concept but a working reality. We invite everyone to come and verify it and we will pay the fare and expenses if we are proven wrong. We invite all queries of all sorts made after careful consideration of the description given. After a year, it will be made public and everyone can get it.it is just for engineers. it will be marketed in pakistan first. we do not need any advertisement. or companies support. this our invention we want only objection from engineers. to clarify their theoratical concept.those machines r not complete in sence of expapiments.we completed our expariments on it then openly challenge to the engineers.in near future u will see our magnet machine in market.after it marketing,after that we will open source it.we r in production,we need only time,when our calculated production will be ready for marketing,we will in the market,it will take some time dear.now our team is much busy in production.we dont want approval from engineers.we tell them with a challenge that it is possible and practically available in working condition we have done this job by the grace of Allah.we need not any kind of advertisement and finances.our invention will itself speak. this magnet machine is a genuine,and practically in working position,many groups coming to examine it,and really surprised to see it,by the grace of GOD we done it,we also invite u to come and see it practically,no one can prove us wrong because we r not telling a lie.soon we will upload a new video with world qualified and recognised engineers comments.we need not a nobel prize,our magnet machine is a nobel prize for humanity.We challenge any one to come and see this magnet machine working. It is not just a theoretical concept but a working reality. We invite everyone to come and verify it and we will pay the fare and expenses if we are proven wrong. We invite all queries of all sorts made after careful consideration of the description given. After a year, it will be made public and everyone can get it.
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Wasif Kahloon yes
we r going to open it source
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Jim Stewart Asalumu alaikum
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Wasif Kahloon wa alaikum musalam
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Jim Stewart Hopefully you will get the right people over there. I have been to Islamabad but you are based in Lahore?
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Wasif Kahloon we r not searching the right people
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Jim Stewart I meant engineers to validate for you. If you need internet marketing let me know. That's what I do
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Mark Dart Dansie They will not allow engineers t o come and test it Jim, just an evaluation of the video
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Wasif Kahloon first u answer our simple question in which u describe the formula of HT volts generated by the magnets, if u r an engineer,then we allow u to visit,hurry up waiting for ur answer?
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Wasif Kahloon sorry u r not an engineer,so we can,t allow u to test it.in a short time u will get it from the market,when we will open source it,so sorry friend u r not able to understand the device,the basic thing HT volts made by magnets u not answered and satisfied us,how u claim that u r a qualified engineer
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Wasif Kahloon you make ur own plan,we will send u its total diagrams,then u make it here in ur country.we r going to open it source in a short time,in a short time it will most successful,that a common man can afford it easily,it is very very cheap
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Wasif Kahloon mr mark???
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Ok i will wait.when is the. 1 year challange over?
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Wasif Kahloon ok ur wait will be ended in a very very short time,1 year is so long friend
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2014, 01:08:54 PM »
Jim, Wasif seems to follow the idea that if one is going to tell lies, then tell really big lies.  His lies that the little "generator" prop is producing 3.5kW while turning at 80-150rpm is bad enough.  He decided to supersize his lies when he said that by going 750rpm he could reach 5MW.  5MW @ 220VAC rms is 25,000A rms.  That would require ten bus bars each 3/8" thick by 8 inches wide for each of the two power leads. 5MW @ 750rpm is 63,662 Nm torque, or 46,936 lb. ft. roughly the available torque of 100 pick-up trucks with large engines.

Pakistan has plenty of good electrical engineers and test laboratories.  If one wishes to look past the obvious tells of fakery in the videos that Wasif has produced, then before one parts with money they should ask Wasif why he doesn't have a test lab report for his gem.  They should ask why he isn't running his home and his neighbor's home from his magic machine.

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Offline seychelles

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2014, 01:48:46 PM »
Please be informed that this guy is an alien ok.. he uses these big long nails to stabilise his  high powered generator NOT. THE GENERATOR IS A MOTOR THE SOURCE IS 250V FROM WIRING UNDERNEATH THE GROUND..ACCESS VIA THESE BIG NAILS..PLEASE SPARE US THE SACRED BULLSHIT..

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2014, 02:36:44 PM »
Or simply ask him to do this:

Run the full system as shown in the last video.... then uncouple the shafts. Just take off the hose clamp and peel off the electrical tape coupling the "motor" to the "generator" and show the "motor" now running along by itself.

Now stand back and log the excuses he emits as to why he cannot -- or will not -- perform this one simple demonstration that would take five minutes to set up.


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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2014, 02:53:14 PM »
Or simply ask him to do this:

Run the full system as shown in the last video.... then uncouple the shafts. Just take off the hose clamp and peel off the electrical tape coupling the "motor" to the "generator" and show the "motor" now running along by itself.

Now stand back and log the excuses he emits as to why he cannot -- or will not -- perform this one simple demonstration that would take five minutes to set up.
The motor would obviously accelerate instantly and uncontrollably to such a speed that a a rift in the fabric of space time would open in all directions at the speed of light.   The rift would give the appearance to all observers that the motor was not moving.

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2014, 07:21:01 PM »
Mark, I have controlled that 'run-away' by sprinkling some pixie dust onto the shaft. A provisional patent for this process has been applied for. I am working on a fully automated delivery system for this. Licenses are available at a reasonable cost (I used J.P.Rohner's licensing model).
Please keep posts serious.

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2014, 07:38:57 PM »
I cant believe there is even a conversation about the reality of this machine. This is a movie prop and nothing more. The real mystery here is why bother with the hoax? What is to be gained? This does more harm to the real free energy experimenters than good  and turns it into a joke.

Its easy to see its not real. There is no rotor in the generator. There is no rear cover on the generator which is necessary to hold a rear bearing which is also missing. The generator shaft is fake. Its just a short piece of rod that is connected to the spring coupling. The hidden 220v motor is probably in the front of the mag motor.

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2014, 09:48:11 PM »
Or simply ask him to do this:

Run the full system as shown in the last video.... then uncouple the shafts. Just take off the hose clamp and peel off the electrical tape coupling the "motor" to the "generator" and show the "motor" now running along by itself.

Now stand back and log the excuses he emits as to why he cannot -- or will not -- perform this one simple demonstration that would take five minutes to set up.
The better offer would be to make clear statement in fb for him on public page - to disconnect all electric parts including generator and attach some heavy weight to lift up right on magnet motor shaft. He can control easily when to stop so the weight won't be swinging around shaft after rope is pulled.
Then serious engineers could go there to investigate this setup.

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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2014, 10:43:15 PM »
It's a funny sort of generator all right.



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Re: Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor
« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2014, 10:47:44 PM »
What is really needed is a mechanical shaft to shaft coupler with a torque
comparator and shaft direction measurement that produces an indicator
arrow display that indicates which direction the torque vector flows to.

It's just too easy to have a generator be a motor or vice versa.

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Well, we sorta kinda have just that, in the coupling spring, don't we? Does it twist up, or does it untwist, when the device is running?


 

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