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Title: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 20, 2014, 06:26:37 PM
 This is a link to my current build projects.
 It's interesting that with certain people not in the discussion that it is
actually an enjoyable build process. One build is in the process of
being patented within the guidelines that allows for a Provisional Patent.
 This will not allow someone to claim I am stealing their work.
 The USPTO and it's documentation will demonstrate that it is solely my
own invention.

http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f9/besslers-wheel-58361/

p.s., I will not be making any more posts in here as my understanding of engineering is backed by schooling.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: gdez on January 21, 2014, 02:52:28 AM
@ jlingaarg1,
 I don't really like bessler projects, but I enjoyed your build video's.  Don't feel like you have to prove yourself to anyone. This is a forum and not trial by fire. I I would like to see your progress and I think alot of people don't realize the thought that has to be put into some of these designs, especially when your working with no blueprint except the one in your head.
 You can have the ultimate idea, but if you can't build it yourself, you really are handicapped.
 I am thinking back to my first hho fuel cell...and I found that this was something that the average person could not build.
 Alot of people talk bs too. You can have the best idea ever, but if you can't build it and prove it, then you really have nothing but personal satisfaction. Don't underestimate personal satisfaction though, it's pretty cool.
 Computer sim's only go so far, and by building your idea, you do nothing but learn. I try to make a goal of learning at least one new thing a day. The problem with that is usually I end up learning much more.
 I would say just keep doing your thing and don't worry if people don't like your work.
 You may suprise yourself,
Greg
 
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 21, 2014, 04:30:03 AM
@ jlingaarg1,
 I don't really like bessler projects, but I enjoyed your build video's.  Don't feel like you have to prove yourself to anyone. This is a forum and not trial by fire. I I would like to see your progress and I think alot of people don't realize the thought that has to be put into some of these designs, especially when your working with no blueprint except the one in your head.
 You can have the ultimate idea, but if you can't build it yourself, you really are handicapped.
 I am thinking back to my first hho fuel cell...and I found that this was something that the average person could not build.
 Alot of people talk bs too. You can have the best idea ever, but if you can't build it and prove it, then you really have nothing but personal satisfaction. Don't underestimate personal satisfaction though, it's pretty cool.
 Computer sim's only go so far, and by building your idea, you do nothing but learn. I try to make a goal of learning at least one new thing a day. The problem with that is usually I end up learning much more.
 I would say just keep doing your thing and don't worry if people don't like your work.
 You may suprise yourself,
Greg

  You know, when I was in the 7th grade, my best friend was a guy named Udo Stricht. He was from Germany and had lived in Ameirca for 2 years but had no accent. His mother spoke no English.
 What I could not understand is why no one hung out with us. Of course, English is my 2nd language as well which is why Ud o had no accent to me.
 It is like AB Hammer says, either you are American or you are foreign. Myself, I am foreign.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 21, 2014, 04:33:04 AM
@ jlingaarg1,
 I don't really like bessler projects, but I enjoyed your build video's.  Don't feel like you have to prove yourself to anyone. This is a forum and not trial by fire. I I would like to see your progress and I think alot of people don't realize the thought that has to be put into some of these designs, especially when your working with no blueprint except the one in your head.
 You can have the ultimate idea, but if you can't build it yourself, you really are handicapped.
 I am thinking back to my first hho fuel cell...and I found that this was something that the average person could not build.
 Alot of people talk bs too. You can have the best idea ever, but if you can't build it and prove it, then you really have nothing but personal satisfaction. Don't underestimate personal satisfaction though, it's pretty cool.
 Computer sim's only go so far, and by building your idea, you do nothing but learn. I try to make a goal of learning at least one new thing a day. The problem with that is usually I end up learning much more.
 I would say just keep doing your thing and don't worry if people don't like your work.
 You may suprise yourself,
Greg

  Greg,
 It is like AB Hammer has taught me, I do not belong here. I do know what I am doing.
After all, it was Wagner who had Bessler arrested for being a fraud. Let history speak for itself.
 Je Norge, ne Amerkanskee. Sorry.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 21, 2014, 04:42:59 AM
  @AB Hammer, Tinsel Koala and Pirate 88719,
 Please explain the difference between the following;

 http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1666493/E-mc2

and

 http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/462917/Plancks-constant

 one is e = mc ^2 and the other is h. Quite simple for an engineer.
 After all, everything is relative, so to speak.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: TinselKoala on January 21, 2014, 06:29:48 AM
He's Baaaaaack!!!

Johnny Doo-Little has returned.


In his first post, he says he isn't going to post any more. By his fourth post, he's already making nonsensical snipes against his critics from his last go-round.

  @AB Hammer, Tinsel Koala and Pirate 88719,
 Please explain the difference between the following;

 http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1666493/E-mc2 (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1666493/E-mc2)

and

 http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/462917/Plancks-constant (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/462917/Plancks-constant)

 one is e = mc ^2 and the other is h. Quite simple for an engineer.
 After all, everything is relative, so to speak.

The difference, Johnny, is that one is talking about Planck's constant, and the other is talking about Einstein's matter-energy equivalence formula.


Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 22, 2014, 01:23:13 AM
He's Baaaaaack!!!

Johnny Doo-Little has returned.


In his first post, he says he isn't going to post any more. By his fourth post, he's already making nonsensical snipes against his critics from his last go-round.

The difference, Johnny, is that one is talking about Planck's constant, and the other is talking about Einstein's matter-energy equivalence formula.

   TK,
 You're an idiot. I can't believe that you took the bait so easily. Planck's Constant is the value of a photon and E = MC^2 is another way of quantifying it.
 By the way Alan, e = mc^2 is a meaningless equation. It sounds smart is the only reason people like it. The reality is that without Planck's Constant, Einstein's work would have been worthless because it revolved around h. I think Einstein was jealous of him.
 After all, Planck's work on black body radiation was probably the real break through.
 Without it, Einstein could not have predicted that light would "bend" around something dense like a star (our Sun). And a careful review of Planck's work might find the same suggestion. That light changes around a dense body.
 And I can call you Alan because you have no face and no name. You could be my nephew for all I know. So it doesn't matter what you say because you might be a computer virus for all anyone knows.

 and if anyone wants a good laugh, they can search kiss kiss and tinselkoala and see what he saying to another forum member, not sure why he would ask someone if they are homophobic. That's what I call staying on topic, lmao
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Pirate88179 on January 22, 2014, 03:31:14 AM
  @AB Hammer, Tinsel Koala and Pirate 88719,
 Please explain the difference between the following;

 http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1666493/E-mc2 (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1666493/E-mc2)

and

 http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/462917/Plancks-constant (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/462917/Plancks-constant)

 one is e = mc ^2 and the other is h. Quite simple for an engineer.
 After all, everything is relative, so to speak.

What the hell do I have to do with any of this?

Johnny, you are doing it yet again.  Remember why you have been banned from this forum like 5 times now?  (Also banned from many other forums)  It is not because your ideas are so brilliant they have to ban you, it is because you pick fights and slander other forum members, which, you are doing once again.

For a guy that is supposed to be so intelligent, you just keep making the same mistakes over and over.  Why not try being a decent person for once?  You started like 5 topics now that you are back here and all of them are attempts at starting a flame war with honored members of this forum.

The day that you teach someone about physics and electronics 1/2 as much as TK has done, I might have some respect for you.

Just try being nice.  It is not that hard really.  Otherwise, you will be banned once again.

Bill
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 22, 2014, 05:15:02 AM
  Bill,
 You need to get over your father losing out on a patent that he quit working on because he thought the idea was worthless.
It seems you have learned nothing from his mistake, you don't ever quit on something unless you want somebody else to have it.

    :D
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Pirate88179 on January 22, 2014, 05:48:58 AM
  Bill,
 You need to get over your father losing out on a patent that he quit working on because he thought the idea was worthless.
It seems you have learned nothing from his mistake, you don't ever quit on something unless you want somebody else to have it.

    :D

My father, God rest his soul, never lost out on a patent.  I have no idea what you are talking about. He is listed on a patent, I can give you the number if you like.

I am just telling you that you should try to be nice.  And, you come back with some fantasy thing about...whatever.

Just keep it up then and Stefan will take care of it I am sure.

I tried.

Bill
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 22, 2014, 12:10:52 PM
My father, God rest his soul, never lost out on a patent.  I have no idea what you are talking about. He is listed on a patent, I can give you the number if you like.

I am just telling you that you should try to be nice.  And, you come back with some fantasy thing about...whatever.

Just keep it up then and Stefan will take care of it I am sure.

I tried.

Bill


  Bill,
 I am sure thread on Heron's fountain is still there. I tried working with you and tinselkoala and then had tinselkoala accusing me of stealing his idea. And you supported him.
 I think the real problem is that you and your friends have no idea's of your own to build so you need to discredit me.
 And show the patent your father is on. BTW, when tinselkoala posted a picture of a steam engine they sell on e-bay, sure the thread is still there, he showed no work when he claimed to have built it.
 This could be why in the woodworker forum no one bothers me, other people have projects they are working on.
 But as ab hammer posted in besslerwheel, I'm not allowed to exclude him from my project. I think since I am paying for it out of my own pocket, I don't have to work with him when he shows no work and does not discuss engineering. All you and your 2 friends have are personal attacks, like what trolls do.

adding your thread Bill,
http://www.overunity.com/12640/herons-fountain/msg333934/#msg333934
 On page 2 , I mention that Heron's Fountain is the Travis Effect and then later when I post a variation, tinselkoala posts his youtube video and ends up claiming I watched his video before posting the design variation.
 I think that shows the difference between someone who has gone to school and someone who hasn't. Someone who has gone to school can consider more than one way something might work and how principles in engineering effect it. But this is merely wasted on people like yourself who have no interest in learning anything. Kind of why 5 years from now, nothing in your life will have changed.
 
  Bye, do know I'm wasting my time talking to you, you already know it all.

edited to add; Bill, just so everyone can know how you and your friend tinselkoala missed it, because I went to school for Propulsion Engineering, Heron's Fountain offered me various things to consider. And self siphoning is one of them. It is possible but the working pressure head needs to be over 9.8 meters tall to have the more than 1kgf/cm^2 of pressure to be able to discharge into the atmosphere.
 I'm not sure how you and tk missed that, it is what Stefan started his web site for, learning to improve ways that energy is used.
 But since you and your friend didn't have patience to sit in a classroom and learn something, by considering different aspects of pressure heads and their effect on water, I do believe that I have made 2 important discoveries and a successful build of Bessler's Wheel wil allow me to make them known.
 But as I let Mark know, it is possible that a local newspaper will print what I believe is to be found to be a major discovery and would you like to know what that is ? It's how photosynthesis happens, specifically how the process works. And since me and you live in Kentucky and coal mining is important, a discovery of how CO2 emissions from coal fired power plants could be converted into aldehyde or sucrose (sugar) would be important.
 It has been said by some environmentalists that reducing CO2 emissions from coal fired power plants by 20% will STOP Global Warming.
You might not think that is important Bill, but I think to people who make their living mining and for environmentalists as well, it would show that solutions can be found if people are willing to work to achieve them.
 Besides, could you imagine having a discovery like that attached to Bessler's wheel ?
 And the other discovery would be how to lower the cost of desalinating sea water which is important for a world facing shortages of potable water. And yet you and tk can't get past bullying.
 And Bill, the scientific principle that I have discovered is something that I like to call Negative Excitation. You see, it seems to violate the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. It doesn't really but unfortunately to much of science is viewed in the singular and this kind of limits how quantum behavior can be modified without effecting the kinetic potential of a given molecule. See how simple all that is ? And it's all probably way over your head, but then, I did spend my time learning something new these last couple of years  ;)
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: AB Hammer on January 23, 2014, 12:14:15 AM
What the hell do I have to do with any of this?

Johnny, you are doing it yet again.  Remember why you have been banned from this forum like 5 times now?  (Also banned from many other forums)  It is not because your ideas are so brilliant they have to ban you, it is because you pick fights and slander other forum members, which, you are doing once again.

For a guy that is supposed to be so intelligent, you just keep making the same mistakes over and over.  Why not try being a decent person for once?  You started like 5 topics now that you are back here and all of them are attempts at starting a flame war with honored members of this forum.

The day that you teach someone about physics and electronics 1/2 as much as TK has done, I might have some respect for you.

Just try being nice.  It is not that hard really.  Otherwise, you will be banned once again.

Bill

Hi Bill

 I see Lindgaard is up to his old tricks again !!. He manufactures things to try to attack people. You might say he took a page out of the Dem's play book. But the only way that works is he must have supporters.

___________________________________

Lindgaard

Leave me out of your BS and lies. I have real builds, not BS ones.

Alan
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 23, 2014, 12:35:20 AM
Hi Bill

 I see Lindgaard is up to his old tricks again !!. He manufactures things to try to attack people. You might say he took a page out of the Dem's play book. But the only way that works is he must have supporters.

___________________________________

Lindgaard

Leave me out of your BS and lies. I have real builds, not BS ones.

Alan

  Alan,
 You are a joke. For someone who has no job to tell somebody that medical issues are only an excuse that the weak make, what are you ?
 You sit home and collect your disability check while you call other people weak for working with more severe medical issues. Care to explain ?
 Also, you say you fly a Coast Guard flag at home and yet refuse to say what makes you a disabled U.S. Veteran with an 80% disability rating.
 I have 2 service connected disabilities with only a 10% rating which I have been challenging. Care to explain Mr. Disabled Veteran ?
I don't have a family while you do. What allows you to have it better than me ? Explanation please.
 Also, I'd like an explanation on why you think you have the right to own people because you can make money from owning slaves.
And remember, Stefan does back up his forum and your posts are still there.
 I think as you put it that smart people should have to support people who have no interest in nothing but themselves., kind of like communism. And remember Alan, Stefan can pull your posts up of which you made such claims.
 Let's face it, you are nothing more than a fat American pig looking for a free ride at somebody else's expense.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: AB Hammer on January 23, 2014, 12:50:31 AM
  Alan,
 You are a joke. For someone who has no job to tell somebody that medical issues are only an excuse that the weak make, what are you ?
 You sit home and collect your disability check while you call other people weak for working with more severe medical issues. Care to explain ?
 Also, you say you fly a Coast Guard flag at home and yet refuse to say what makes you a disabled U.S. Veteran with an 80% disability rating.
 I have 2 service connected disabilities with only a 10% rating which I have been challenging. Care to explain Mr. Disabled Veteran ?
I don't have a family while you do. What allows you to have it better than me ? Explanation please.
 Also, I'd like an explanation on why you think you have the right to own people because you can make money from owning slaves.
And remember, Stefan does back up his forum and your posts are still there.
 I think as you put it that smart people should have to support people who have no interest in nothing but themselves., kind of like communism. And remember Alan, Stefan can pull your posts up of which you made such claims.
 Let's face it, you are nothing more than a fat American pig looking for a free ride at somebody else's expense.

Wo?? direct attacks again with so much BS. LMAO You are funny with your lies, but since you have no credibility and have been banned so many times your head should still be spinning. It is pathetic.

If I owned a dog that looked like you I would shave his butt and make him walk backwards.

PS I wouldn't own a dog that looked like you.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 23, 2014, 01:09:39 AM
Wo?? direct attacks again with so much BS. LMAO You are funny with your lies, but since you have no credibility and have been banned so many times your head should still be spinning. It is pathetic.

If I owned a dog that looked like you I would shave his butt and make him walk backwards.

PS I wouldn't own a dog that looked like you.

  Alan,
 Post a copy of your pay check. If not, then the unemployed should not be allowed to ridicule people who work for their money.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: AB Hammer on January 23, 2014, 03:31:18 AM
  Alan,
 Post a copy of your pay check. If not, then the unemployed should not be allowed to ridicule people who work for their money.

So that's it lindgaard.

 You consider self employed to be the same as unemployed and consider them nobodies. So I guess you consider all people who started as self employed scum. That makes all those who started like Microsoft, Boeing, the railroad, Ford and all other businesses including your bosses who owned the company scum.  Oh how narrow minded you are. ::)

PS. You have no idea what it is like to make your own way with your own 2 hands to survive without some overpaid cushy job. If you had to make your own way? You would not survive IMHO
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Pirate88179 on January 23, 2014, 04:19:12 AM

  Bill,
 I am sure thread on Heron's fountain is still there. I tried working with you and tinselkoala and then had tinselkoala accusing me of stealing his idea. And you supported him.
 I think the real problem is that you and your friends have no idea's of your own to build so you need to discredit me.
 And show the patent your father is on. BTW, when tinselkoala posted a picture of a steam engine they sell on e-bay, sure the thread is still there, he showed no work when he claimed to have built it.
 This could be why in the woodworker forum no one bothers me, other people have projects they are working on.
 But as ab hammer posted in besslerwheel, I'm not allowed to exclude him from my project. I think since I am paying for it out of my own pocket, I don't have to work with him when he shows no work and does not discuss engineering. All you and your 2 friends have are personal attacks, like what trolls do.

adding your thread Bill,
http://www.overunity.com/12640/herons-fountain/msg333934/#msg333934 (http://www.overunity.com/12640/herons-fountain/msg333934/#msg333934)
 On page 2 , I mention that Heron's Fountain is the Travis Effect and then later when I post a variation, tinselkoala posts his youtube video and ends up claiming I watched his video before posting the design variation.
 I think that shows the difference between someone who has gone to school and someone who hasn't. Someone who has gone to school can consider more than one way something might work and how principles in engineering effect it. But this is merely wasted on people like yourself who have no interest in learning anything. Kind of why 5 years from now, nothing in your life will have changed.
 
  Bye, do know I'm wasting my time talking to you, you already know it all.

edited to add; Bill, just so everyone can know how you and your friend tinselkoala missed it, because I went to school for Propulsion Engineering, Heron's Fountain offered me various things to consider. And self siphoning is one of them. It is possible but the working pressure head needs to be over 9.8 meters tall to have the more than 1kgf/cm^2 of pressure to be able to discharge into the atmosphere.
 I'm not sure how you and tk missed that, it is what Stefan started his web site for, learning to improve ways that energy is used.
 But since you and your friend didn't have patience to sit in a classroom and learn something, by considering different aspects of pressure heads and their effect on water, I do believe that I have made 2 important discoveries and a successful build of Bessler's Wheel wil allow me to make them known.
 But as I let Mark know, it is possible that a local newspaper will print what I believe is to be found to be a major discovery and would you like to know what that is ? It's how photosynthesis happens, specifically how the process works. And since me and you live in Kentucky and coal mining is important, a discovery of how CO2 emissions from coal fired power plants could be converted into aldehyde or sucrose (sugar) would be important.
 It has been said by some environmentalists that reducing CO2 emissions from coal fired power plants by 20% will STOP Global Warming.
You might not think that is important Bill, but I think to people who make their living mining and for environmentalists as well, it would show that solutions can be found if people are willing to work to achieve them.
 Besides, could you imagine having a discovery like that attached to Bessler's wheel ?
 And the other discovery would be how to lower the cost of desalinating sea water which is important for a world facing shortages of potable water. And yet you and tk can't get past bullying.
 And Bill, the scientific principle that I have discovered is something that I like to call Negative Excitation. You see, it seems to violate the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. It doesn't really but unfortunately to much of science is viewed in the singular and this kind of limits how quantum behavior can be modified without effecting the kinetic potential of a given molecule. See how simple all that is ? And it's all probably way over your head, but then, I did spend my time learning something new these last couple of years  ;)


Global Warming?  Are you kidding me?  That has been proven (many times now) to be a scam.  The figures were fudged and lied about.  Everyone knows this to be true now....except you, who are still working on a solution?  Trying to solve a bogus claim makes no sense.  We are in the middle of one of the coldest winters in the history of KY and you tell me you think global warming is real and you can solve it?  The entire US is going through one of the coldest winters in history ever recorded.  Read the papers any?

This one really takes the cake, as it were.

Sheeesh.

Bill
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: TinselKoala on January 23, 2014, 09:56:54 AM

  Bill,
 I am sure thread on Heron's fountain is still there. I tried working with you and tinselkoala and then had tinselkoala accusing me of stealing his idea. And you supported him.
You never tried "working with" me, Jimpbo. And the record shows who did what, first, and who claimed what.....

Quote
I think the real problem is that you and your friends have no idea's of your own to build so you need to discredit me.
 And show the patent your father is on. BTW, when tinselkoala posted a picture of a steam engine they sell on e-bay, sure the thread is still there, he showed no work when he claimed to have built it.

Prove it. Give the link to this picture of a "steam engine they sell on e-bay" that I "claimed to have built" and let's examine this little claim of yours. You cannot... because it's a figment of your distorted imagination.

Quote
This could be why in the woodworker forum no one bothers me, other people have projects they are working on.

I can think of other reasons. You exhibit those reasons here too, and that's why you've been banned so many times.

Quote
But as ab hammer posted in besslerwheel, I'm not allowed to exclude him from my project. I think since I am paying for it out of my own pocket, I don't have to work with him when he shows no work and does not discuss engineering. All you and your 2 friends have are personal attacks, like what trolls do.

adding your thread Bill,
http://www.overunity.com/12640/herons-fountain/msg333934/#msg333934 (http://www.overunity.com/12640/herons-fountain/msg333934/#msg333934)
 On page 2 , I mention that Heron's Fountain is the Travis Effect and then later when I post a variation, tinselkoala posts his youtube video and ends up claiming I watched his video before posting the design variation.

Once again Jimpbo, the DATES OF THE VIDEOS are there for anyone to see. You even claimed that I somehow altered the dates, something which is impossible. The dates of the videos show that your "design variation" was produced AFTER my videos. Anyone who followed those threads knows the truth. You think otherwise? Give some links to support your position. You cannot.

Quote
I think that shows the difference between someone who has gone to school and someone who hasn't. Someone who has gone to school can consider more than one way something might work and how principles in engineering effect it. But this is merely wasted on people like yourself who have no interest in learning anything. Kind of why 5 years from now, nothing in your life will have changed.
 
  Bye, do know I'm wasting my time talking to you, you already know it all.

edited to add; Bill, just so everyone can know how you and your friend tinselkoala missed it, because I went to school for Propulsion Engineering,
Your posts do not reflect much learning. You may have attended an engineering school but you didn't pay attention, and I know you don't have a degree. Maybe you "went to school" but you never cracked a book. What was your textbook in that school's class for Engineering Statics and Dynamics?

Quote
Heron's Fountain offered me various things to consider. And self siphoning is one of them. It is possible but the working pressure head needs to be over 9.8 meters tall to have the more than 1kgf/cm^2 of pressure to be able to discharge into the atmosphere.
 I'm not sure how you and tk missed that, it is what Stefan started his web site for, learning to improve ways that energy is used.
 But since you and your friend didn't have patience to sit in a classroom and learn something, by considering different aspects of pressure heads and their effect on water, I do believe that I have made 2 important discoveries and a successful build of Bessler's Wheel wil allow me to make them known.
 But as I let Mark know, it is possible that a local newspaper will print what I believe is to be found to be a major discovery and would you like to know what that is ? It's how photosynthesis happens, specifically how the process works. And since me and you live in Kentucky and coal mining is important, a discovery of how CO2 emissions from coal fired power plants could be converted into aldehyde or sucrose (sugar) would be important.
 It has been said by some environmentalists that reducing CO2 emissions from coal fired power plants by 20% will STOP Global Warming.
You might not think that is important Bill, but I think to people who make their living mining and for environmentalists as well, it would show that solutions can be found if people are willing to work to achieve them.
 Besides, could you imagine having a discovery like that attached to Bessler's wheel ?
 And the other discovery would be how to lower the cost of desalinating sea water which is important for a world facing shortages of potable water. And yet you and tk can't get past bullying.
 And Bill, the scientific principle that I have discovered is something that I like to call Negative Excitation. You see, it seems to violate the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. It doesn't really but unfortunately to much of science is viewed in the singular and this kind of limits how quantum behavior can be modified without effecting the kinetic potential of a given molecule. See how simple all that is ? And it's all probably way over your head, but then, I did spend my time learning something new these last couple of years  ;)

Blah blah blah. What happened to the first post in this thread, Jimpbo? You know, the one where you said this:

Quote
p.s., I will not be making any more posts in here as my understanding of engineering is backed by schooling.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Newton II on January 23, 2014, 11:10:30 AM

We are in the middle of one of the coldest winters in the history of KY and you tell me you think global warming is real and you can solve it?  The entire US is going through one of the coldest winters in history ever recorded.  Read the papers any?



I think global warming itself is responsible for that.   

We have studied  in schools about Le Chatelier's principles which states that  'When a chemical system in equilibrium is acted upon by a force, it reacts in such a way as to nullify the effect  of that force and a new equilibrium is established'.

I feel that the seasons on earth are happpening with some sort of euqilibrium.  If you raise the temperature of earth during  summer by global warming, this equilibrium should react in such a way as to cool it  causing very heavy rains in monsoon season making the winter very cold.   So  your summer will be very hot and winter will be extemely cold.

At some point this equilibrium might break and quantity of ice produced during winter may not be melted by heat produced in summer causing the earth to enter into ice age with ice covering the entire earth for thousands of years.

Every year I am observing that summer is becoming very hot and winter extremely cold which makes me to feel that another ice age is nearby.

This is only my personal opinion -  no need to take it seriously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Chatelier's_principle

Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 24, 2014, 01:17:50 AM

I think global warming itself is responsible for that.   

We have studied  in schools about Le Chatelier's principles which states that  'When a chemical system in equilibrium is acted upon by a force, it reacts in such a way as to nullify the effect  of that force and a new equilibrium is established'.

I feel that the seasons on earth are happpening with some sort of euqilibrium.  If you raise the temperature of earth during  summer by global warming, this equilibrium should react in such a way as to cool it  causing very heavy rains in monsoon season making the winter very cold.   So  your summer will be very hot and winter will be extemely cold.

At some point this equilibrium might break and quantity of ice produced during winter may not be melted by heat produced in summer causing the earth to enter into ice age with ice covering the entire earth for thousands of years.

Every year I am observing that summer is becoming very hot and winter extremely cold which makes me to feel that another ice age is nearby.

This is only my personal opinion -  no need to take it seriously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Chatelier's_principle

  Newton II,
 Here is a link from Time and they suggest that in fact Global Warming is changing the weather in what might be as you suggest.
  I have sent out some e-mails and letters to the editor of my local paper. The only way to know if I am right is to have an Organic Chemist try my idea. They would be qualified but I don't think the skeptics in this forum would understand much.

http://science.time.com/2014/01/06/climate-change-driving-cold-weather/

p.s., Alan, you posted in besslerwheel that you receive disability payments because you do not work. And since I have worked through more severe medical issues, you do need to make me look bad for doing what you can't. I think it is as you say, you are about being credible. And to be credible, you need to discredit someone. After all, I am building Bessler's wheel for a reason, I ignored you.

edited to add; @Newton II, since what I consider as a possible solution to reducing  carbon dioxide requires water, I think I can modify the method of desalination using Reverse Osmosis so that it will be a much more efficient system. The 2 idea's tend to support each other. Also, fresh water shortages are becoming more pronounced.
 And if need be, Bessler's wheel would be how I make my idea's known. if so, then it would be a good thing that I've stuck with it.

edited to add; Alan, what have you always told me ? That because you have a family to support that you want my work. There's your problem, too lazy to do anything for yourself. You whine and cry about being 80% disabled and yet I don't deserve any credit for the work that I have done and what I am doing.
 Kind of makes me proud to be the son of a hard working immigrant.   ;D
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: AB Hammer on January 24, 2014, 02:04:13 AM
  Newton II,
 Here is a link from Time and they suggest that in fact Global Warming is changing the weather in what might be as you suggest.
  I have sent out some e-mails and letters to the editor of my local paper. The only way to know if I am right is to have an Organic Chemist try my idea. They would be qualified but I don't think the skeptics in this forum would understand much.

http://science.time.com/2014/01/06/climate-change-driving-cold-weather/

p.s., Alan, you posted in besslerwheel that you receive disability payments because you do not work. And since I have worked through more severe medical issues, you do need to make me look bad for doing what you can't. I think it is as you say, you are about being credible. And to be credible, you need to discredit someone. After all, I am building Bessler's wheel for a reason, I ignored you.

edited to add; @Newton II, since what I consider as a possible solution to reducing  carbon dioxide requires water, I think I can modify the method of desalination using Reverse Osmosis so that it will be a much more efficient system. The 2 idea's tend to support each other. Also, fresh water shortages are becoming more pronounced.
 And if need be, Bessler's wheel would be how I make my idea's known. if so, then it would be a good thing that I've stuck with it.

edited to add; Alan, what have you always told me ? That because you have a family to support that you want my work. There's your problem, too lazy to do anything for yourself. You whine and cry about being 80% disabled and yet I don't deserve any credit for the work that I have done and what I am doing.
 Kind of makes me proud to be the son of a hard working immigrant.   ;D

Lindgaard

 I laugh in your ugly lying face.

 I don't, or have ever wanted anything of what you are doing, for it is trash. Not to mention doubtful it is even yours.  >:(

 You are still in elementary school when it comes to perpetual type wheels. Inventing is not for everyone for only a few really have the talent to do so. That is why you follow me I guess. You are such a stalker.  >:(

You are being a nosey piece of crap, prying into my personal life again. Take care of your own and don't bother me. >:(
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 24, 2014, 02:15:03 AM
  @Newton II,
 Almost missed the obvious myself. I think you are right about what you said.
Right now it is summer in Australia, Brazil and South Africa. And if there weather has become more severe just as it has in the northern hemisphere, then their weather patterns could cause the cold air over the North Pole to destabilize.
 After all, not many people live near the South Pole so it would be less of an issue than it is in the northern hemisphere.
 I just wonder if the Himalayas have anything to do with the shift. You know, the Rockies help to create tornados because of the way air moves over them. And if hot flows towards cold, they might be channeling warm(er) air across Russia. If so, then these deep freezes might become more common and last longer.

   Jim

edited to add a pic of India's weather map which has a high in Pakistan and another on the other side of India.
http://www.weather-forecast.com/maps/India
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Pirate88179 on January 24, 2014, 02:40:09 AM
Yes, global warming is causing deep freezes all over the planet.  Sure, right...whatever.  You sound like Al Gore who is exploiting this scam and making billions off of it.

By the way, if you knew anything about thermodynamics, you would know that CO2 is NOT a greenhouse gas.  All of the scientists agree on this one as one studies the history of this planet, one sees that the coldest temperature periods coincide with the highest levels of atmospheric CO2.  By the way, all of this happened long before man was even building cook fires so, the earth has cycles, there is also a thing we call weather.

Al Gore is predicting warmer temperatures during the summer for the US.  Really?  I can predict a darkening effect towards evening.  He claims it will be warmer in the summer than in the winter.  Wow, what a Moron!

Try watching a movie called An Inconsistent Truth.  It show real climate scientists and their real data.  They are actually concerned that we may be heading into another ice age.

Bill
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 24, 2014, 03:10:57 AM
Yes, global warming is causing deep freezes all over the planet.  Sure, right...whatever.  You sound like Al Gore who is exploiting this scam and making billions off of it.

By the way, if you knew anything about thermodynamics, you would know that CO2 is NOT a greenhouse gas.  All of the scientists agree on this one as one studies the history of this planet, one sees that the coldest temperature periods coincide with the highest levels of atmospheric CO2.  By the way, all of this happened long before man was even building cook fires so, the earth has cycles, there is also a thing we call weather.

Al Gore is predicting warmer temperatures during the summer for the US.  Really?  I can predict a darkening effect towards evening.  He claims it will be warmer in the summer than in the winter.  Wow, what a Moron!

Try watching a movie called An Inconsistent Truth.  It show real climate scientists and their real data.  They are actually concerned that we may be heading into another ice age.

Bill

 
   >>  By the way, if you knew anything about thermodynamics, you would know that CO2 is NOT a greenhouse gas.  <<

http://www.eia.gov/oiaf/1605/ggccebro/chapter1.html


Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Pirate88179 on January 24, 2014, 03:14:29 AM
 
   >>  By the way, if you knew anything about thermodynamics, you would know that CO2 is NOT a greenhouse gas.  <<

http://www.eia.gov/oiaf/1605/ggccebro/chapter1.html (http://www.eia.gov/oiaf/1605/ggccebro/chapter1.html)

You proved my point exactly.  Thank you.

Bill

***EDIT***  Actually, you also proved my second point....you do know nothing about thermodynamics.  Thanks for doing that also.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 24, 2014, 03:24:15 AM
You proved my point exactly.  Thank you.

Bill

  How did I prove it ?  You must mean this, right ?
 I guess you're welcome.

>>  In computer-based models, rising concentrations of greenhouse gases generally produce an increase in the average temperature of the Earth. Rising temperatures may, in turn, produce changes in weather, sea levels, and land use patterns, commonly referred to as “climate change.” <<

edited to add;
  I think you are missing something important Bill. If we follow your advice and do nothing, then if it turns out to be a real problem, then we'll be stuck with it.
 And with what I am proposing, we would reduce air borne contaminants and possibly convert them into a commodity that has value. As such, the process I support would also have the potential to decrease the cost of desalinated water. So even if CO2 only had a minor impact, what I am proposing would have a positive economic impact if successful.
 And isn't America supposed to be a world leader ? If so, then why would we not pursue possible new forms of revenue by pursuing new technologies ?
 
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Marsing on January 24, 2014, 03:25:38 AM

 He claims it will be warmer in the summer than in the winter.


hi.. pirate 

i thought, the context want to say
it will be more warmer next summer and will be colder next winter,

actually in resonant circuit, we are looking for this.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: AB Hammer on January 24, 2014, 03:32:35 AM
LOL Bill

 I agree that this global warming is a farce for climate change is the norm for our little blue planet. Personally I feel this global warming is more a misdirection so we don't see what the other hand is doing.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 24, 2014, 03:35:51 AM
LOL Bill

 I agree that this global warming is a farce for climate change is the norm for our little blue planet. Personally I feel this global warming is more a misdirection so we don't see what the other hand is doing.

 So what is the other hand doing ?
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Newton II on January 24, 2014, 03:45:53 AM

Try watching a movie called An Inconsistent Truth.  It show real climate scientists and their real data.  They are actually concerned that we may be heading into another ice age.



I agree that earth is heading into another ice age.  So,  start practicing hibernation.   I am practicing to hibernate since several years and almost succeeded in it.   When earth enters ice age and becomes normal again after 5000 or 10000 years,  may be I will be the  only person left alive on this earth!!!

Just a joke ! ;D ;D
 
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Pirate88179 on January 24, 2014, 04:31:38 AM
  How did I prove it ?  You must mean this, right ?
 I guess you're welcome.

>>  In computer-based models, rising concentrations of greenhouse gases generally produce an increase in the average temperature of the Earth. Rising temperatures may, in turn, produce changes in weather, sea levels, and land use patterns, commonly referred to as “climate change.” <<

edited to add;
  I think you are missing something important Bill. If we follow your advice and do nothing, then if it turns out to be a real problem, then we'll be stuck with it.
 And with what I am proposing, we would reduce air borne contaminants and possibly convert them into a commodity that has value. As such, the process I support would also have the potential to decrease the cost of desalinated water. So even if CO2 only had a minor impact, what I am proposing would have a positive economic impact if successful.
 And isn't America supposed to be a world leader ? If so, then why would we not pursue possible new forms of revenue by pursuing new technologies ?

Computer based models?  Ever hear of GIGO?  (Garbage in, garbage out)  It is not the computers fault that some of these activists create models that show the earth is warming to an alarming degree.  I have seen them.  Know what?  Gore, himself, said that by 2010, the seas would be 50 feet higher and our average temp. would be 20 degrees hotter.

Nope, almost the opposite.  You are the supposed expert on  photosynthesis (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=bht&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=photosynthesis&spell=1&sa=X&ei=Kt3hUoTZNIy3kAe_GQ&ved=0CCQQvwUoAA&biw=1018&bih=462)  so, you should know that higher CO2 levels mean greener plants and better crop production right?

Now, this does not mean that we should pollute our planet, not at all.  I do not litter, I recycle, my electric bill is $30/month and I have made many videos showing how folks can make free light in their homes.  I just do not buy into the global warming scam.....and now...with the public disclosure of the falsified figures and emails, they do not either....this is why they invented "Climate Change."  So, if it gets warmer, or colder, they are now right.

Having an IQ just under 140 (My brother's is 150)  I am able to see through this.  Everyone else I know is able to do so also.  So, this tells me it is just common sense.

Bill
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: vineet_kiran on January 24, 2014, 04:47:56 AM

...  When earth enters ice age and becomes normal again after 5000 or 10000 years,  may be I will be the  only person left alive on this earth!!!


 
There are lot of species of other animals on this earth which are  capable of hibernation.  Those animals will also be alive after ice age.    So,  you may have to live with those animals like Tarzan
 
 
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Pirate88179 on January 24, 2014, 04:50:52 AM


Bill,
 You need to get over your father losing out on a patent that he quit working on because he thought the idea was worthless.
It seems you have learned nothing from his mistake, you don't ever quit on something unless you want somebody else to have it.

    :D






   
 And show the patent your father is on.           

JohnnyDolittle:

I really do not enjoy showing what a liar you are but, here is one patent number:

United States Patent 6,698,715

So, once again, when you make something up, and you get busted, you will make something else up.

I am still waiting to see the steam engine on ebay that you claim TK claims he invented.

Oh, you can't do that either?

i am shocked, shocked I tell you.

Bill

PS  That patent is worth millions, and no, I am not listed on there.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 24, 2014, 12:11:47 PM




JohnnyDolittle:

I really do not enjoy showing what a liar you are but, here is one patent number:

United States Patent 6,698,715

So, once again, when you make something up, and you get busted, you will make something else up.

I am still waiting to see the steam engine on ebay that you claim TK claims he invented.

Oh, you can't do that either?

i am shocked, shocked I tell you.

Bill

PS  That patent is worth millions, and no, I am not listed on there.

  If it's not for ceramic springs used by NASA, then you using the other hand that Alan is talking about.
 It shows that both you and him will say what is convenient to discredit someone. And if you can discredit someone, then you believe that shows that you actually know something of which you don't.
 So far all you and Alan have posted is IMHO's. And yet say if you can make me look bad that must mean that the 2 of you are right.
After all, as long as you maintain your personal attacks on me, neither of you are posting anything that would demonstrate an understanding of science, engineering or Global Warming. That's all either you or Alan knows is let's get Jim.
 And that's because I am a threat to you because I am willing to take the time to learn. After all, anyone can look at what you and Alan posted a few years ago and you are reposting what you said then, let's get Jim. I think  that's funny and is a good joke.

edited to add; since my "2 friends" have their IMHO's, here is my own IMHO.
 Water used for cooling our Nuclear power plants is warming the Gulf Stream off the coast of Florida. This means East Coast nuclear power plants. And as a result, the waters where the Titanic has sunk has gone from 28F in 1912 to around 40F.
 This is also something that could change the ocean's currents.
 Also ground water saturation being less than what it used to be because of pumping out our aquifers can change the refraction of sun light. By absorbing less during the day, less energy is released during the night.
 Also, to confirm computer models, evidence would be needed. This would mean creating artificial environments of specific mixtures of greenhouse gasses and compare thermal change to a controlled environ. Then what ever changed is noted would have a basis that could be tested by other climatologists.

  I have noticed that my 2 critics have mentioned none of this in their arguments but have only mentioned their IMHO of me. LMAO !
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: TinselKoala on January 24, 2014, 01:15:07 PM
Quote
BTW, when tinselkoala posted a picture of a steam engine they sell on e-bay, sure the thread is still there, he showed no work when he claimed to have built it.

Back up this accusation of yours with some evidence, Jimpbo, or withdraw it and apologize.

Where is this "picture of a steam engine they sell on e-bay"?  What the hell are you talking about?
We need to see this picture, we need to see it running on steam, we need to see the ebay listing.

You think I "claim" to have built something..... you are accusing me of Not Building something I said that I did build? PROVE IT, you liar.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: AB Hammer on January 24, 2014, 03:00:27 PM
So what is the other hand doing ?

Well Pinky, you should ask your friend Al Gore.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: AB Hammer on January 24, 2014, 03:19:50 PM
  If it's not for ceramic springs used by NASA, then you using the other hand that Alan is talking about.
 It shows that both you and him will say what is convenient to discredit someone. And if you can discredit someone, then you believe that shows that you actually know something of which you don't.
 So far all you and Alan have posted is IMHO's. And yet say if you can make me look bad that must mean that the 2 of you are right.
After all, as long as you maintain your personal attacks on me, neither of you are posting anything that would demonstrate an understanding of science, engineering or Global Warming. That's all either you or Alan knows is let's get Jim.
 And that's because I am a threat to you because I am willing to take the time to learn. After all, anyone can look at what you and Alan posted a few years ago and you are reposting what you said then, let's get Jim. I think  that's funny and is a good joke.

edited to add; since my "2 friends" have their IMHO's, here is my own IMHO.
 Water used for cooling our Nuclear power plants is warming the Gulf Stream off the coast of Florida. This means East Coast nuclear power plants. And as a result, the waters where the Titanic has sunk has gone from 28F in 1912 to around 40F.
 This is also something that could change the ocean's currents.
 Also ground water saturation being less than what it used to be because of pumping out our aquifers can change the refraction of sun light. By absorbing less during the day, less energy is released during the night.
 Also, to confirm computer models, evidence would be needed. This would mean creating artificial environments of specific mixtures of greenhouse gasses and compare thermal change to a controlled environ. Then what ever changed is noted would have a basis that could be tested by other climatologists.

  I have noticed that my 2 critics have mentioned none of this in their arguments but have only mentioned their IMHO of me. LMAO !

Lindgaard

 We are not out to do anything to you but shut you up your lies about us. As for your credibility? You do enough damage to yourself. You don't need help from us. Your statement is what you are trying to do to us. (reverse phycology) to try to attack our credibility because we don't fall all over you infinite wisdom? LMAO. This is why you keep getting banned.

PS warmer? Is this why the polar cap is growing and caught those global warming idiots (scientist ) got stuck in the ice. LMAO
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 24, 2014, 09:07:13 PM
Lindgaard

 We are not out to do anything to you but shut you up your lies about us. As for your credibility? You do enough damage to yourself. You don't need help from us. Your statement is what you are trying to do to us. (reverse phycology) to try to attack our credibility because we don't fall all over you infinite wisdom? LMAO. This is why you keep getting banned.

PS warmer? Is this why the polar cap is growing and caught those global warming idiots (scientist ) got stuck in the ice. LMAO

  >>  PS warmer? Is this why the polar cap is growing and caught those global warming idiots (scientist ) got stuck in the ice. LMAO  <<

  Alan,
  Glaciers are melting at rates that are above climate variance. In Patagonia, the Himalayas, Greenland and Alaska.
 Also, it is documented that the permafrost in Siberia is thawing. Where do you get your information from ? In a previous post you said it was IMHO.
 It is interesting that you and your 2 friends only have personal attacks. Besides, I sent a letter to the editor again and let them know of a simple way that greenhouses could be shown to cause Global Warming. It's so simple you and Bill might understand it. Not sure if TK is a person as no name and no face means he is nothing.
 And the simple test is to shine a 1,000 watt light down into a sea and measure it's luminosity. Actually, it would be using a solar panel to measure the amount of energy and at what depth. And by changing the concentrations of gasses in a container, then it could be seen if the atmosphere is like a prism that changes the wave length of light.
 If so, then they could determine how much heat the sea is absorbing and would know how much entropy is suffered during the night. This would show a net gain, loss or if it is in equilibrium.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2013/09/what-ocean-heating-reveals-about-global-warming/
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: AB Hammer on January 24, 2014, 11:28:51 PM
Lindgaard

 Here is a list of info including nasa.

https://www.google.com/search?q=polar+ice+cap+growing&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.yahoo:en-US:official&client=firefox

A simple search finds more than you ever need.  ;) Also lots of photos. You need to search both sides of any story and somewhere the truth can be found. Photos from space trump Al Gore and his friends in this story. LOL
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 25, 2014, 01:11:36 AM
Lindgaard

 Here is a list of info including nasa.

https://www.google.com/search?q=polar+ice+cap+growing&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.yahoo:en-US:official&client=firefox

A simple search finds more than you ever need.  ;) Also lots of photos. You need to search both sides of any story and somewhere the truth can be found. Photos from space trump Al Gore and his friends in this story. LOL

  From your own link Alan;
 This is understandably at odds with the public's perception of how polar ice should respond to a warming climate, given the dramatic headlines of severe decline in Arctic summertime extent. But the "paradox of Antarctic sea ice" has been on climate scientists' minds for some time.

Continental v. sea ice

First off, sea ice is different to the "continental ice" associated with polar ice caps, glaciers, ice shelves and icebergs. Continental ice is formed by the gradual deposition, build up and compaction of snow, resulting in ice that is hundreds to thousands of metres thick, storing and releasing freshwater that influences global sea-level over thousands of years.

Sea ice, though equally important to the climate system, is completely different. It is the thin layer (typically 1-2m) of ice that forms on the surface of the ocean when the latter is sufficiently cooled enough by the atmosphere.
sufficiently cooled enough by the atmosphere.

From there sea ice can move with the winds and currents, continuing to grow both by freezing and through collisions (between the floes that make up the ice cover). When the atmosphere, and/or ocean is suitably warm again, such as in spring or if the sea ice has moved sufficiently towards the equator, then the sea ice melts again.


 Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-10-antarctic-sea-ice.html#jCp

  What both sides ? It has not been over looked, except by you. And as to what I posted, I think I am right because my opinion would not define science or the events that are happening. What I have suggested is a way that imperialistic evidence could be found as to how atmospheric gasses change the way that solar radiation interacts with water.
 Why or how you miss something like that I do not know. It's a known fact that the deeper that sun light or solar radiation can penetrate into deep waters, the longer it will stored as latent heat. They teach about latent heat, entropy, etc. when you go to school for engineering.
 And as to what you posted, just watch Ice Road Truckers who drive over that same sea you are referring to. Their drive seasons are becoming shorter. Why ? It's because they need sea ice to drive over to get to some locations in Alaska that are inside the Article Circle.
 So once again, you have a narrowly formed opinion where one piec3e of information is the complete picture.
 And this is why I m the one building Bessler's wheel and not yourself. I could look at 143 drawings and find a motion or 2 or 3. I think now I will be able to enjoy my hobby   :o

 Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-10-antarctic-sea-ice.html#jCp
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Marsing on January 25, 2014, 03:23:17 AM

 this is why I m the one building Bessler's wheel and not yourself. I could look at 143 drawings


hi.  j_lindgaard1
how many Bessler's wheel exactly ?
if Bessler's wheel have 143 drawings, less or more, could you please provide link that show all Bessler's wheel drawings ?

thank you
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Pirate88179 on January 25, 2014, 05:41:22 AM
OK then.

Bill
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: tinman on January 25, 2014, 06:15:55 AM
From CSIRO.
Quote: Australian annual average daily mean temperatures showed little change from 1910 to 1950 but have progressively warmed since, increasing by 0.9 °C from 1910 to 2011.

Wow-less than 1 *C over the last 100 year's-were doomed lol.
And america is having one of it's coldest winters in history.
Im not seeing this epic global warming :o
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Pirate88179 on January 25, 2014, 06:29:36 AM
From CSIRO.
Quote: Australian annual average daily mean temperatures showed little change from 1910 to 1950 but have progressively warmed since, increasing by 0.9 °C from 1910 to 2011.

Wow-less than 1 *C over the last 100 year's-were doomed lol.
And america is having one of it's coldest winters in history.
Im not seeing this epic global warming :o

Exactly right.  Since the earth has been around for millions of years before we got here and kept records, keeping records for the past 200 years is not a good method for extrapolating any real predictions.   It is very cold here in the US now, and these idiots that claimed "global warming", are now claiming "climate change".  To me, that is like claiming..."weather".

It is just a way for the UN to tax all world citizens.  Where will all of this money go?  Who knows but, since man can not cause warming or cooling of the planet, rest assured that this money will go to other "worthy" causes.  I would rather keep my money.

Bill
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 25, 2014, 08:37:55 AM
hi.  j_lindgaard1
how many Bessler's wheel exactly ?
if Bessler's wheel have 143 drawings, less or more, could you please provide link that show all Bessler's wheel drawings ?

thank you

   Marsing,
  Here is a link to besslerwiki. There are 2 different motions that Bessler used. One is Mt 127 or any drawing where water is siphoned directly across the hub. The other motion is like Mt 27. The clue for Mt 27 is found in Mt 26 and Bessler's Poetica Apologia, http://besslerwheel.com/writings/apologia.html, where he wrote "A wheel appears - is it really a wheel, for it does not have a normal rim."
 The reason it is not really a rim is because it is a channel as describe by "E" in Mt's 26 & 27.

   Jim

edited to add; a pic of where I'm at. I have another set I can assemble. May do that and see if I can't get Mt 127 to work. With 4 bellows it would be easier to have working.
  Cross-bar
 cross-bar (noun) a structural member that crosses other elements; two perpendular beams crossing at the axis; lazy tongs
 1.a “If I arrange to have just one cross-bar in my machine, it revolves very slowly, just as if it can hardly turn itself at all, but, on the contrary, when I arrange several bars, pulleys and weights, the machine can revolve much faster." AP 340 Collins translation

  What this reminds of in a way is a rotary engine that they use on a plane. The engine rotates and not the crank shaft. It what allows for the engines to cool themselves. With 8 levers and pulleys, there would always be as a minimum 2 bellows that are performing work. # would be the usual force but this would explain why the wheel would slow and then rotate more quickly.
 And by placing a pendulum which can be used as a governor could allow for a more even rotational velocity of the wheel.  :D
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 25, 2014, 08:42:39 AM
Exactly right.  Since the earth has been around for millions of years before we got here and kept records, keeping records for the past 200 years is not a good method for extrapolating any real predictions.   It is very cold here in the US now, and these idiots that claimed "global warming", are now claiming "climate change".  To me, that is like claiming..."weather".

It is just a way for the UN to tax all world citizens.  Where will all of this money go?  Who knows but, since man can not cause warming or cooling of the planet, rest assured that this money will go to other "worthy" causes.  I would rather keep my money.

Bill

  Bill,
 I noticed you haven't commented on the warming of the North Atlantic. After all, if the Titanic sank today, there would be many more survivors. And you are also ignoring science. If an increase is caused by environmental gasses, then over time, it will become more significant.
 Yet for some reason you are against a better understanding, Why ? It could be because you are not able to grasp long term consequences ?

edited to add; current U.S. and world populations ; http://www.census.gov/popclock/
world population estimate, 1910; 1.75 billion   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population_estimates
U.S. population, 1910, about 92 million ;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1910_United_States_Census

 That's a lot of change in such a short time. I think what you are missing is that as ground water becomes depleted, that climate change can become pronounced. Even a desert can have low average temperatures because temperatures will fall at night and in the winter.
 Just look at Eastern Washington and Oregon or even N.M., Texas and Az, where there is little water.
 And between Wa. and Ore., temps can be near 100 in the summer and in the teens in the winter, low average temperature. But you already know that.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 25, 2014, 08:55:24 AM
From CSIRO.
Quote: Australian annual average daily mean temperatures showed little change from 1910 to 1950 but have progressively warmed since, increasing by 0.9 °C from 1910 to 2011.

Wow-less than 1 *C over the last 100 year's-were doomed lol.
And america is having one of it's coldest winters in history.
Im not seeing this epic global warming :o


  And yet hasn't Australia been spending billions on desalination plants because of prolonged draught ? Yep .

removed smiley face after yep, wouldn't be nice to make fun of Australia's water shortage due to climate change. Do some what keep up with water desalination as Australia and the Middle East/North Africa regions are in short supply of fresh water which is slowly happening in America.

edited to add; with desalination plants that use Reverse Osmosis, if what I know is correct, there might be a modification they could make that could lower operating costs. The PX Pressure Exchanger is said to save up to 60% of energy costs, my modification could do better.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: AB Hammer on January 25, 2014, 02:43:15 PM
 As a teenager back in the mid 1970s. I can remember days in Arkansas of 113 F in the shade actual temperature. Now that I am in my 50s I haven't seen this for a while. Even further south in Louisiana. You would think if global warming was all that. You would think we would have higher than 113 F actual temperature not heat index days on a regular bases now. Not to mention from earlier predictions. Wasn't the ice caps supposed to have fully melted by now? LOL


PS We didn't here much on heat index back in the 70s. 113 f at xxx% humidity is how we heard it. I wonder what the heat index would be at 50% humidity. I guess I will have to look that up for it sucked on those days. Spray bottle of water under a fan was our friend. 


Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 25, 2014, 03:36:47 PM

 
There are lot of species of other animals on this earth which are  capable of hibernation.  Those animals will also be alive after ice age.    So,  you may have to live with those animals like Tarzan

  I'm okay with that as long as I get Jane  ;)
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 25, 2014, 04:17:13 PM
  @All,
 Here is a link to National Ice and Data Center. To quote them;
 Arctic sea ice extent for December was 12.38 million square kilometers (4.78 million square miles). This is 700,000 square kilometers or 270,300 square miles below the 1981 to 2010 average, making it the 4th lowest December extent in the 36-year satellite data record.
 
 Make of it what you will.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Newton II on January 25, 2014, 05:39:23 PM
 
There are lot of species of other animals on this earth which are  capable of hibernation.  Those animals will also be alive after ice age.    So,  you may have to live with those animals like Tarzan



I have seen throughout my life,  selfish, mean, corrupt and all sorts of dirty fellows.  I would prefer to live with animals than with such people.  I don't want Jane also,  don't mind dating with animals.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 25, 2014, 07:04:49 PM

I have seen throughout my life,  selfish, mean, corrupt and all sorts of dirty fellows.  I would prefer to live with animals than with such people.  I don't want Jane also,  don't mind dating with animals.

  If everything works out okay and one "Jane" I know is impressed, then I could be happy with what ever is to come afterwards.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 25, 2014, 10:58:31 PM
  @All,
  I have completed a set of coupled bellows. I will need to wait until next payday to buy some sealant.
 Until then, I'll probably work on the stand and levers, have it somewhat ready to go.
  Still, may order more waterproof fabric and do a new build with what I have learned from this one.
  I'd kind of like to have a decent looking build done for when it works. You know, make a good first
impression of Bessler's legacy.
 And I would like to improve my build technique well enough to work with leather. While leather isn't
waterproof, it can be sealed. That might be one reason why Bessler had to do periodic maintenance
on his wheel that ran for 57 days.

     Jim
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Pirate88179 on January 26, 2014, 12:30:59 AM
I just hope that Stefan sees all of your attempts at starting flame wars over here.  Folks here are busy doing real research and do not need to be distracted by your attempts at starting fights with false accusations and lies.

Bill
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: Marsing on January 26, 2014, 05:02:25 AM
i found all drawings ( 143 drawings )
   start here http://besslerwheel.com/wiki/index.php?title=MT_1-20

i still have a question, are those drawing is bessel's drawing or somebody else ?


I have another set I can assemble. May do that and see if I can't get Mt 127 to work. With 4 bellows it would be easier to have working.


we are waiting.
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: j_lindgaard1 on January 26, 2014, 04:06:09 PM
i found all drawings ( 143 drawings )
   start here http://besslerwheel.com/wiki/index.php?title=MT_1-20

i still have a question, are those drawing is bessel's drawing or somebody else ?

we are waiting.

  milehigh has asked me not to discuss engineering. I am being moderated as a result of having engineering in my educational background.
Please refer your questions to the respected authorities on engineering and Bessler's work in this forum.
 If you follow the link to woodworkingtalk.com, I am posting my work there. They find it interesting and if I am successful as I believe I will be, then others who are more skilled at wood working than myself might build one of their own. I doubt any long time member in an overunity forum will build one. There reputation is not based on actual work.

    Jim
Title: Re: Current Build Projects
Post by: AB Hammer on January 26, 2014, 04:46:44 PM
i found all drawings ( 143 drawings )
   start here http://besslerwheel.com/wiki/index.php?title=MT_1-20

i still have a question, are those drawing is bessel's drawing or somebody else ?

we are waiting.

Greetings Marsing

 The MTs as we call them, are of failed wheels. Some? Bessler may have well done to test but, the majority are not Bessler's. Bessler put them in his books to learn from for he wanted to start a school/college for perpetual motion and their studies. What Bessler did say is he found the answer where everyone has looked before and with a discerning eye can find the answer in the MTs.  This is not exactly how he said it, but it is how it is understood. 

Alan