I also did a bit of resistive heater [NOT HHO] testing on a small Tin Manifold .

with 200 watts input
I could not get the outside temp of the small uninsulated manifold over 410 F in 67 F ambient .[played inside for a very quick test]

I would say that looks good for Justin ,Tomorrow I will do more testing
to try and establish some sort of control [and post some pics]

@Justin
If you could post some dimensoins for your CaT I would greatly appreciate it [and pipe size inlet /
outlet for a mockup over here.

@Woopy
fabulous news indeed!

thx
Chet

Dimensions of Catalytic Converter 9"(23cm) Length, 4" (10cm) Thick 6" (15cm) Wide. Each opening of the cat is 2" (5cm) in diameter. Thickness of the heavy duty stainless steel housing is 1/8" (3.2mm) Thick. Weight of unit is about 5lbs (2.3Kg)

Needless to say not a thin piece of tin steel. With 200 watts I am seeing internal temps on parts of the ceramic substrate over 1000F. External temps 3-500F. Again very soon I will be sealing the entire system and will be pumping in gas on both sides to activate both ceramic substrates.

A New story from Chava on Langmur
http://chavascience.com/papers/langmur-excess-energy-from-hydrogen

Started a new place to Discuss Langmur and his work
here
 
http://www.overunity.com/14245/103-calgram-molecule-to-dissociate-hydrogen-yeilds-90-000-calgram-recombined/msg385589/#new

thx
Chet
PS
@Justin
When that gas recombines it will pull the worlds strongest vacuum
I made mention of this Vacuum before ,you need to realise this is "work" too
and needs to be "put to work" in this test for a proper analysis of power in and power out.
Lifting water etc etc.........
also try to design an intake where it Draws HOT air back in Not Cold ambient air.
{Apologies if this is obvious]
PPS
I suppose we could calculate the "Vacuum" energy if you keep a log on the weight
of the water being recombined [save /measure the water after recombination it will be applied to "Total" output ]

Low Energy Neutron Reactions (LENRs) in Automotive Catalytic Converters

http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/WL/slides/20100625LatticeEnergySlides.pdf

Our Friend Lamare has some comments too


from here



http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/16500-hho-gas-injected-into-catalytic-converter-yields-extreme-heat-lenr-we-dont-know-4.html#post250190


This copy paste bellow is a mess, however the information Lamare has put together is wonderful... so I will leave it here. [original post #116  in above link]

""consider the possibility that there might be another form of water which is a mixture of H2 and O2 gas. As a matter of fact, the research of Prof. Gerald Pollack makes more than clear that another state of "water" indeed exists:Tuks Unsorted KieknWatTWordt Stuff - Meyer WFC Replication Project Batteries Made from Water - YouTube The work of Prof. Pollack and Chris Eckman suggest that a shape of water exists, consisting of the same honey-comb like structures which exist in ice, with the difference that the H+ ions which bind the these layers in ice are absent and move to "the bulk water" which becomes acid. In other words: there is reason to believe a crystalized form of (almost) water exists which appears to be cabable of existing not only in Pollacks' "EZ" layer, but also in a gaseous form, which is a/o known as "Brown's gas" or "HHO", but has other names as well. Frequently Asked Questions - Brown's Gas | www.eagle-research.com[/size]

Quote:Research indicates that Brown's Gas has characteristics that cannot be achieved by simply mixing bottled hydrogen and oxygen in a stoichiometric ratio.

BG contains H, H2, O, O2, H2O (as water vapor) and a special 6th 'structured' gas that Yull Brown called a 'Fluid Crystal', George Wiseman calls 'Electrically Expanded Water' (ExW) and professor Ruggero Santilli calls 'Magnecules'.

BG is also known under brand names of: Common-Ducted Gas, Rhode's Gas, Spirig Gas, Hydroxy, Brown Gas, Green Gas, Klein Gas, Aquygen, HHO, SG Gas, Ohmasa Gas, Knallgas, HNG and (erroneously by WikiPedia) OxyHydrogen.Chris Eckman has done some research on Brown's gas:Plasma orbital expansion theory for Brown's gasAnother researcher is Graneau, who investigated "water arc" explosions:Directory contents of /pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau%20e.a.%20-%20Arc-liberated%20chemical%20energy%20exceeds%20electric al%20input%20energy%20-%202000.pdfSo, IMHO it's too short around the corner to call all things related to the term "HHO" a fallacy and conclude that it must be simply a mixture of H2 / O2 gas. I personally witnessed what happens when you ignite soap-bubbles filled with HHO gas. These implode instead of exploding, which makes it absolutely clear to me that it is NOT simply H2 / O2 gas. It may be something like a 'normal' water molecule in a different 'stretched' state, as Chris Eckmann suggested, it may[/size] be a gaseous form of Pollack's "EZ" layer, and it may yet be something else. I personally think it is likely that HHO is indeed a gaseous form of "ice cristals without the H+ atoms in between", because it appears the "HHO" are negatively charged, but one cannot conclude such things without proper investigations.As for the source of the energy, IMHO one needs to consider the work of Prof. Claus Turtur. I find it highly unlikely that all these kinds of "cold fusion" actually have anything to do with nuclear fusion, as I explained in this video:How Stan Meyer's "Car on Water" as well as "Cold Fusion" actually works. - YouTubeOh, and for the record: I hold a master's degree in Electrical Engineering. -- Arend

Awesome to see this thread still going. Some great information is being passed around. Thank you guys. I have some parts on order to clean up the cat design a bit and will be posting video of the parts when they come in. Keep researching and experimenting...

That's an excellent vid by Woopy. He's making good progress.

It's good to know that he too has had flashback probs... I had one that destroyed my flashback arrestor, and it put my experiments on hold...

It looks like Woopy's HHO torch is melting the cat...?!

Woopy is exploring other interesting reactions too...
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-jRqym1Lw&feature=youtu.be
 
enjoy
 
Chet

Hey Justin You got some test numbers yet ?.......LOL
Sorry I could not resist..