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nightlife

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Negative frequencies
« on: December 23, 2013, 06:27:31 AM »
 Has anyone thought of how negative frequencies could be utilized in creating usefull energy? There is not much known about it or atleast not talked about that much. I do know they are using them in broad band applications and a few other transmitting and receiving applications. There is even some talk of creating negative capacitors, conductors and others. I am wondering if Tesla touched on this and used them in some of his inventions that we cant seem to replicate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZqMYxOxQa4&feature=player_detailpage

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Re: Negative frequencies
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2013, 06:56:45 AM »
I never thought about it because I have never even heard of such a thing until I watched the video link that you posted.  Thanks for posting it.

Wow, this is really weird stuff to me.  A negative capacitor?  Would this refer to the polarity or would it really have a less than 0 capacitance?  I had no idea that anyone was working on such things.

I can't even imagine what a negative frequency might be?

I hope that a lot of others see this and I would love to hear their thoughts.

Again, thanks for letting me know about this.

Bill

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Re: Negative frequencies
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2013, 03:54:13 AM »
 Not sure Bill. This is news to me too. I have been racking my brains trying to think of ways to attract natural frequencies and then I was wondering if there was such a thing as a negative frequency. I googled negative frequencies and found that link I posted.
 Another site I came across is http://www.negativefrequency.com/ This explains things a bit better as far as what a negative frequency is.
 This next link is to a video about negative frequencies in the frequency domain. I can not seem to get the video to play on my PC and if you can and or anyone else can, please let me know what it states. http://wn.com/Negative_frequency#/videos
 Here is another link talking about using negative frequencies to create light from light. http://arstechnica.com/science/2012/08/the-dark-side-of-light-negative-frequency-photons/
 What about a magnet. Maybe it emits both a negative and positive frequency. One being called the north and the other being called the south.
 Think about it. The south (negative) attracts the north (positive). Maybe the same is acheived with neagative and positive frequecies. If so, that maybe the key to Tesla's inventions. If we can resonate a negative natural frequency it maybe able to be used to attract a positive frequency powerful enough to provide free useable energy.

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Re: Negative frequencies
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2013, 06:18:09 AM »
 I found that Tesla built the first negative resistance circuits. Based on that, he must have known about negative frequencies. He used them for amplifying frequencies. Frequencies start at zero, then rise up and then drop below zero. When they drop below zero, they become a negative frequency. With that said, there is a positive and a negative within every frequency. The negative resistance circuits must be used to eliminate the negative frequency from accuring creating a stronger and or faster positive flow.
 Ok, so if we collect the negative pulse that accures below zero, that should have the same effect on the amplification of the positive as a negative resistance circuit does. We then should be able to introduce the stored negative to the amplified positive creating a usable power source.
 This maybe the secret to the electric car that has been said to have been built by Tesla.
 Tesla was working with negative frequencies but yet there isn't much talk about it even today after over 100 years later. He mentioned wasting half of the mass and by eleminating that loss, we are left with an endless free energy. He did so by creating negative resistance circuits. I am thinking that he collected the energy from that resistance and introduced it to the flow creating the endless supply of free energy he talked so much about.

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Re: Negative frequencies
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2013, 06:22:16 AM »
 The more and more research I do, the more I find.
Nicola Tesla, who invented alternating current, later apologized with huge regret, when he realized the debilitating nature of 50 cycles per second electrical current, and wanted the entire operation scrapped. Nikola Tesla invented countless inventions and technologies, many of which the secret governments have abused. Regardless, Nikola Tesla’s sole/soul interest was the liberation of humanity, which included the provision of “free energies”, that were not transported through wires.
 
With the proper funding and research, we could have had, and can have, an electrical frequency that is more conducive to optimum health, and doesn’t cost us anything. But certain powers did not want Tesla to release this type of technology, (because you can’t make money from free energy), and they certainly did not want him to notify the president and the people that 50 Hz alternating current was harmful to our health, so he was killed for it. But luckily, just prior to his death, Tesla passed on the technology to counteract the biological effects of alternating current to Ralph Bergstressor, a young physicist in the Air Force, which was later developed into “Tesla’s Innovational Technologies” (http://www.TeslaProducts.info)
http://lightworkers.org/wisdom/100728/harmonizing-negative-affects-electromagnetic-frequenciesradiation-geopathic-stress

nightlife

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Re: Negative frequencies
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2013, 06:35:48 AM »
 Even Stan Myers talked about negative pulses. A negative pulse is the same thing as a negative frequency with is the same thing as a negative sine wave.
 Stan may have utilized the negative of the pulse and or used a negative resistance circuit. That maybe why no one has yet to duplicate what is said that he acheived. I haven't heard of anyone talking about negative pulses in any so called replications. Have you?

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Re: Negative frequencies
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2013, 10:46:00 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Galton
about positive emission and negative emission;
bio-electro-chemical  theory and practise:
One day he made the following " thought experiment " :

Before he took his daily walk through London, he presented himself very tangibly before : "I am the most hated man in England " . After a few minutes focusing on this idea , he joined his walk to ( and therefore also has yet invented mental training ) ....

But it was anything but an ordinary : Some passers-by shouted insults at him or turned Gebärden with disgust from him. Mind you, in the London of the 19th century! A port workers jostled him in passing with his elbow so that he fell into the mud. Even the animals allergic to it : For when Galton walked past a horse , hit this , and kicked him in the hips , so that he in turn went to the ground . When it then came to a little of the multitude , seized the people still party for the horse - the Galton was too much and he moved quickly back home.

What we learn from this? You are what you think!

In ancient Indian Dhammapda , the "doctrine of the thinking senses" , we find the following statement: " All that we are is the result of what we have thought is , it is in our thoughts to be justified, and it is built on our thoughts .


Sincerely

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nightlife

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Re: Negative frequencies
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2013, 12:59:33 AM »
 Another interesting find.
Circuit Idea/Revealing the Mystery of Negative Impedance
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Circuit_Idea/Revealing_the_Mystery_of_Negative_Impedance

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Re: Negative frequencies
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2013, 01:19:04 AM »
Even Stan Myers talked about negative pulses. A negative pulse is the same thing as a negative frequency with is the same thing as a negative sine wave.
 Stan may have utilized the negative of the pulse and or used a negative resistance circuit. That maybe why no one has yet to duplicate what is said that he acheived. I haven't heard of anyone talking about negative pulses in any so called replications. Have you?

Absolute nonsense...
if you look at all the descriptions of negative frequencies you will realise they are only mathematical artefact that arise when describing a sinusoidal using the sum of complex exponentials. They are without meaning or existence in the real world  .. to quote http://www.negativefrequency.com/


"However when imaginary numbers are used, there will be difference between the right and left hand side of the spectrum. This mathematical abstraction becomes useful especially in communications when representing baseband signals.
 Hence just like imaginary numbers are mathematical abstractions, negative frequencies are as well. They do not exist in real world."

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Re: Negative frequencies
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2013, 04:19:03 AM »
Absolute nonsense...
if you look at all the descriptions of negative frequencies you will realise they are only mathematical artefact that arise when describing a sinusoidal using the sum of complex exponentials. They are without meaning or existence in the real world  .. to quote http://www.negativefrequency.com/


"However when imaginary numbers are used, there will be difference between the right and left hand side of the spectrum. This mathematical abstraction becomes useful especially in communications when representing baseband signals.
 Hence just like imaginary numbers are mathematical abstractions, negative frequencies are as well. They do not exist in real world."
You must not have watched the first video.
 Myers talked about negative pulses and a pulse, in a sense, is the same thing as a frequency, sine wave, energy, electricity a vibration and even life for that matter. Everything is made up of pulses.
 Stan talked about using the negative pulse. He may have been referring to the negative pulse as the part of the pulse that drops to zero but then again, he could be referring to it as the drop below zero and or the combination of both.
 As for it only being referred as negative for mathmatical terms. Think about it. Everything has a mathmatical value. At least everything that we know about. Its not mathmaticaly possible to have a positive and not a negative. Nor is it possible to have a negative without having a positive. Nor is it possible for them not to be mathmaticaly equal. If the positive peak is 10 above zero, the negative must be 10 below zero to be mathmaticaly correct. So if it takes having a negative frequency of below zero to be mathmaticaly correct, there must be a negative frequency, pulse, sine wave, energy, electricity or even a negative vibration below zero.
 I am not saying I am right, I am just brainstorming here thinking about if it is possible and if so, how it can be utilized. I am posting my thoughts and research here to see if they inspire anyone else to think and research about it and post their thoughts and findings about it.

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Re: Negative frequencies
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2013, 07:53:21 AM »

 Stan talked about using the negative pulse. He may have been referring to the negative pulse as the part of the pulse that drops to zero but then again, he could be referring to it as the drop below zero and or the combination of both.


Alternatively Stan might have just been making up a pile of nonsense...

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Re: Negative frequencies
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2013, 04:46:48 PM »
Alternatively Stan might have just been making up a pile of nonsense...
That is possible but it is said that he did create working curcuits that we have yet been able to duplicate.
 

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Re: Negative frequencies
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2013, 06:27:16 PM »
 Maybe they are referring to a negative frequency as the collasping wave of every wave with in a frequency.  We see all waves as a equal flow on both the positive and negative sides of the wave. Start to peak as being the positive and the peak to bottom as being the negative. When we utilize a wave, we are only utilizing the positive flow, the up tick, which is only 50% of the wave. If we could utilize the negative flow of the wave, the fall, we should be able to utilize 100% of the wave giving us twice the allowance to work with. Thats where negative capacitors would be helpfull. We could utilize the negative flow to create a positive flow and add it to the positive flow we now have creating a more powerful positive flow then we are able to have with our conventional ways we use now. Kind of like when we collect the collasping fields using Bidini curcuits.
Does that make any sense?

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Re: Negative frequencies
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2013, 02:00:44 AM »
When you talk about the negative aspect of a sine wave its just energy pulsing the other side of a coil not actually a negative as in a number sequence.


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Re: Negative frequencies
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2013, 09:08:20 AM »
 Are you sure of that? I disagree. You can not have a loss without a negative present. I dont care what is in question. I am talking about natural frequencies. If the flow falls from its peak, the fall has to be calculated as a negative.