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Author Topic: Forward EMF Collection  (Read 27229 times)

Dave45

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2014, 01:24:04 PM »
@d3x0r
Is this the one.

                        

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2014, 06:27:13 PM »
@d3x0r
Is this the one.
Dave,
This is an interesting diagram. I know Tito gave it a "not bad" on his thread somewhere around page 200 (give or take 10 pgs). I'll try it out this week with some iron plumbing pipe from Home Depot as a hollow core, unless you suggest something else.  Do you need a diode in there to separate the charges?
Bob

Dave45

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2014, 03:05:15 AM »
Hey Bob good luck with the coil, I havent tried it, just seemed like a logical way to hook it up.

Capacitors are interesting but I think they can dissipate energy if hooked up wrong.


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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2014, 03:05:15 AM »
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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2014, 04:30:38 AM »
Hi Dave.

How was your findings about this current peculiar nature? There is only solution to the free energy we are looking for if your could destroy the Inductance of the coil you are feeding ;then- you will understand that emf and bemf are not permitted to flow but are being captured and stored, when the storage cant hold it anymore the energy is dissipated by radiant phenomenon.

When that time happen that you have destroyed the Inductance of the coil- any negative opposing factors will be neglected/Null. The resulting phenomenon will be what they call Amplification / Magnification of the Energy.

That's all I can share with my own opinion.


Meow   ;D ;D

Hey Bob good luck with the coil, I havent tried it, just seemed like a logical way to hook it up.

Capacitors are interesting but I think they can dissipate energy if hooked up wrong.

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2014, 05:16:02 AM »
think the caps have to be turned... since the current is always opposite I drew some arrows and the original would have had current flowing to both plates of the cap... this direction allows current to flow in and out at the same time... was going to play with that with some mobius toroids.

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2014, 09:06:39 AM »
That is a good findings but. ::) ::)

 I prefer to put a secondary. This just a some newbie  suggestion don't take it if don't like it.

Why don't you wound the two primary(CW + CCW) in 2 halves. The left side is Cw Primary and Cw Secondary. Then the right side is CCW Primary and CCW Secondary. Connect the center/middle of both Primary and Secondary. You can used a Hv Capacitor between the connection of CW Primary and CCW Primary ; The better to put between the two Primary is a very small gap which is spark gap .  Better to wound it on a coreless or separated ring toroid powered cores. The secondary is just connect it like a common series on the middle.

Keep in mind to wind it layer; like this primary 1st layer- then 2nd layer on top of the first layer and so on. Same goes for the secondary wind it layer by layer. Atleast half a inch between the CW segment and CCW segment. If you could wind more coils as extra then it is much better- short those coils those extras and observe the brightness of the bulbs. 

Then feed the primary with any thing your like as long as AC, by cap discharge or low frequency AC much better if HV. Adjust like this HF + Low Voltage, Low Frequency + HV . Why feeding the Primary try to short out the secondary and observe. Put bulb on one side of the Secondary then observe. Put the Bulb between the Series CW Secondary and CCW Secondary as the bulb is the load then observe.

The sneak peak on this Tesla configuration is the more load=Bulbs you put the more the energy is output with out draining extra power from the supply. The more magnetic close/short circuit present on either the CW or CCW the more power is produce when those extra shorted coils are present.

The main purpose of this winding configuration is the CYLINDRICAL form of the Tesla Bifilar Pancake. The other purpose are already posted above. GoodLuck.

Thats all for now.   ;D ;D

Meow   ;D ;D

Please try to light the bulb with out putting any diode yet and observe. Watch closely the input of your signal power supply.
think the caps have to be turned... since the current is always opposite I drew some arrows and the original would have had current flowing to both plates of the cap... this direction allows current to flow in and out at the same time... was going to play with that with some mobius toroids.

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2014, 09:33:31 AM »
That is a good findings but. ::) ::)

 I prefer to put a secondary. This just a some newbie  suggestion don't take it if don't like it.

Why don't you wound the two primary(CW + CCW) in 2 halves. The left side is Cw Primary and Cw Secondary. Then the right side is CCW Primary and CCW Secondary. Connect the center/middle of both Primary and Secondary. You can used a Hv Capacitor between the connection of CW Primary and CCW Primary ; The better to put between the two Primary is a very small gap which is spark gap .  Better to wound it on a coreless or separated ring toroid powered cores. The secondary is just connect it like a common series on the middle.

Keep in mind to wind it layer; like this primary 1st layer- then 2nd layer on top of the first layer and so on. Same goes for the secondary wind it layer by layer. Atleast half a inch between the CW segment and CCW segment. If you could wind more coils as extra then it is much better- short those coils those extras and observe the brightness of the bulbs. 

Then feed the primary with any thing your like as long as AC, by cap discharge or low frequency AC much better if HV. Adjust like this HF + Low Voltage, Low Frequency + HV . Why feeding the Primary try to short out the secondary and observe. Put bulb on one side of the Secondary then observe. Put the Bulb between the Series CW Secondary and CCW Secondary as the bulb is the load then observe.

The sneak peak on this Tesla configuration is the more load=Bulbs you put the more the energy is output with out draining extra power from the supply. The more magnetic close/short circuit present on either the CW or CCW the more power is produce when those extra shorted coils are present.

The main purpose of this winding configuration is the CYLINDRICAL form of the Tesla Bifilar Pancake. The other purpose are already posted above. GoodLuck.

Thats all for now.   ;D ;D

Meow   ;D ;D

Please try to light the bulb with out putting any diode yet and observe. Watch closely the input of your signal power supply.
Dear Stupify12.

I really don't understand you: you look knowing very well how EM/EM O.U. should function, how to make it, even to the point to tell others how to do, BUT still you were not able to answer my simple question I ask you now for the third time: HAVE YOU TRIED YOURSELF WHAT YOU ADVISE, AND WITH SUCCESS? AND IF "YES", WHERE ARE THE SCHEMATICS, THE VIDS, ETC? So that we could be sure you're not wasting time of others? :/

Regards.

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2014, 09:33:31 AM »
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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2014, 10:11:11 AM »
Well. I already warned on my post that dont take it if you dont like it. I have already described on the above post my findings on my replications of the worked of Tesla. Nothing more nothing less. 

 Just a suggestion, dont waste your time on this bogus posted.  I don't have schematic which I already posted on the other thread before, No video  only poor people here dude, just understand maybe if I really wanted to post a Video you the first 1 that I will let to know.

Like always Tk said; It is so simple that you'll laught. well yeah.

Dear Stupify12.

I really don't understand you: you look knowing very well how EM/EM O.U. should function, how to make it, even to the point to tell others how to do, BUT still you were not able to answer my simple question I ask you now for the third time: HAVE YOU TRIED YOURSELF WHAT YOU ADVISE, AND WITH SUCCESS? AND IF "YES", WHERE ARE THE SCHEMATICS, THE VIDS, ETC? So that we could be sure you're not wasting time of others? :/

Regards.

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2014, 12:12:30 PM »
Thanks for your reply, dear Stupify12.

Could you please refer me to links towards your replications data, especially those which show effectiveness of the "amplification" coil (in term of power) you  have spoken often in your posts? And your details of calculations of COP?

See, here on this website and in other places, tens of thousands of hours have been spend in this quest for Free Energy For Anyone, probably same in terms of dollars for the non professional community, but not so effective results we can actually use. You may have very very good ideas but ones need to evaluate those before to invest his time otherwise could be again a huge waste of time.

Very Nice if you have already acheived the resluts you clame "so simple" (to obtain?). Just would like you could provide or refer FIRST to the results,  so anyone could evaluate the revelancy of your ideas, and then, AND ONLY AFTER, go to discuss with you how you got them and with which theory, intuition, understanding.

True, if you still keep in speeches instead to present cifers and PRECISED data, I will ignore your words very fast until you could present effective results. But if you have, if you can send me to any page you already present them, I will be So Glad, as we are all in the same Quest.

Regards.

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2014, 12:12:30 PM »
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Dave45

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2014, 01:34:12 PM »
Is a tank capacitor dissipating energy?
Below we have half wave rectification
full wave rectification
then a tank circuit

Dave45

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2014, 02:53:21 PM »
I believe we can gain insight by first completely understanding the basics.

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2014, 02:53:21 PM »
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Dave45

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2014, 03:10:31 PM »
So when a pos ion meets a neg ion they combine and go neutral this is how static eliminators work.

Does the same happen in our circuits, when pos meets neg is energy consumed,

Is energy being dissipated in the tank circuit.

Dave45

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #42 on: May 08, 2014, 03:31:42 PM »
Thought experiments  :)

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2014, 08:32:03 AM »

Power collection (creation of positive charge area) ; something... this dual TL494 thing is highly based on forward EMF...  more info at link; actually a lot of ramblings... had a lot of issues with mosfets conducting backwards...



http://www.overunity.com/14610/akula0083-light-no3-dual-tl494/msg402531/#msg402531


driving L2 causes a extra draw on the positive rail when M1 stops conducting; this also causes L1 to pull from power and push to ground...


L3 pulses to make L2/L1 also draw on the positive rail...




Dave45

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Re: Forward EMF Collection
« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2014, 05:29:09 AM »
Not really sure what your trying to do.
I did work on your sch. a little  :)


 

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