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Offline Nadda

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Re: Telekinese forces proven...
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2009, 04:52:52 AM »
wonderful video alan, thanks for sharing.

The part when he set that fire, did you see his hand was directly in the flame for a near 2 full seconds...think what you may but how he walked alway from that is simply amazing.

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in the end there was nothing there in spite of tens of thousands of people trying to replicate what they were talking about.

Hans von Lieven

Hans you dont need to rely on the results of what "tens of thousands" of other people did. You can discover the proof for yourself. All you need is to truly believe and then take a few hours out of your day to practice. if you honestly try, you will find the truth that none of those other "people" could.

telekinesis is just an ability.
swimming is just an ability.

Grown adults drown every year because they didnt believe they could swim, yet its a well known fact the human body can swim... Dont drown yourself in doubt, Hans von Lieven, you do have the ability.

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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2009, 04:52:52 AM »

Offline lltfdaniel1

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Re: Telekinese forces proven...
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2009, 05:16:48 PM »
G'day all,

There was a book in the mid 1970's called Psychic Discoveries behind the Iron Curtain, by Sheila Ostrander and Lynn Schroeder.

In it were claims about all sorts of things from telepathy to telekinesis, from ufo encounters to pyramid power and so on and so on.

If I remember correctly there was an account of a Czech researcher who had uncovered some shapes that if placed on a pin could be rotated if you thought at them. My memory is vague on the subject after all these years but one thing I do remember, nothing ever came of it.

In the end there was nothing there in spite of tens of thousands of people trying to replicate what they were talking about.

Hans von Lieven

I have mastered this stuff in a way and it is very dangerous...you could cause thunder rumbles...even teleported tobacco...but that was with the help of a hand and that goes into religion..even make it rain faster...and even stop it...but it takes an awful lot of effort.

Put your finger tips close together pointing each other...can you feel that...that is bio electric.

Oh their is going to be a category 2-3 hurricane near the east coast of the usa...near the georgia state.

I view it this way...we are angels locked inside of a body...this hand of mine is in the other dimension...these dimensions go at the same rate which is instantanous...zpe is instantanous even thought it speeds up and up...instantanous no matter the distance it is the backbone of the universe and is what has created it..also called quantum...the universe is without beginning and is without end...it lasts forever.

It basically deals with the subconcious...if you sang to the sun...it will have some effect...your thoughts do effect it..your body is actually linked to the earth...so if the sun comes out you get a wave of energy coming out but if you sing to the sun and use this back at it...realisticly on a fairly good day the sun will come out.


This stuff takes the utmost concentration..do or do not...there is no try.

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Re: Telekinese forces proven...
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2011, 04:29:15 AM »
Have a look in the pdf on page 56, a very clever idea to use in china 1981 children with the talent for teleportation, and to watch the kind of changing of the electr.magn. signals from the to be teleported !! transmitter, when it is teleported. In german we would say - das Pferd von hintenrum aufzaeumen, With thuch collected data, perhaps you are as silly as before, but you can reconstruct the way in hypershere ...

published by the Air Force Research Laboratory **
Adobe PDF - View as html... Advanced Research Projects Agency DEC Dominant Energy Condition DIA Defense Intelligence Agency ... Teleportation - psychic: the conveyance of persons or inanimate objects by
www.fas.org/sgp/eprint/teleport.pdf

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Re: Telekinese forces proven...
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2011, 04:29:15 AM »
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Offline neptune

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Re: Telekinese forces proven...
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2011, 08:45:14 PM »
What follows is my personal opinion . I am saddened to see this topic being discussed on a serious forum such as this It is enough to give overunity a worse name than it already has . As a young man , I wasted much of my time studying the supernatural ,parapsychology and other such Flim Flam . I always wanted to join the Society for Psychic Research , but did not have the money . When I was older and wiser , My daughters gave me the money to join . But then I realised that the society had existed for over 100years , and PROVED NOTHING . You can do Telekinesis? Fine , go and take the James Randi one million dollar prize .Don't need the money ? Give it to charity or use it to convince sceptics like me . THEN I will listen to you .

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« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2011, 02:51:42 AM »
It is a good thing thats only your personal opinion because it is COMPLETELY wrong.

I am saddened to see an open minded person who believes overunity exists yet thinks telekinesis doesnt deserve discussion. Your post is the exact reason those BS prizes do nothing but hurt the reality behind natural abilities like telekinesis. Most people like yourself, dont take the time and research those prize challenges or simply read the fine print. To succeed at one of those challenges you have to prove to Them that its real, however its up to Them to decide weather or not they are convinced and in essence only need to find one way in which the person doesnt succeed to disqualify them. I can make paper spin, electronics flicker, and straws wobble back and forth. But i cant make a pencil roll, i bet that would disqualify me.

The James Randi prize itself for several years wasnt available to everyone, only people with a media profile or academic documentation. I see they just opened it back up to the public last month.

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On March 8, 2011, the JREF announced that qualifications were being altered to open the Challenge to more applicants. Whereas applicants were previously required to submit press clippings and a letter from an academic institution to qualify, the new rules now require applicants to present either press clippings, an letter from an academic institution, or a public video demonstrating their ability. The JREF explained that these new rules would give people without media or academic documentation a way to be considered for testing, and would allow the JREF to use online video and social media to reach a wider audience.[29]

I'll submit an application but i already know its a fraud. Unlike you, i dont need to see proof to know its real, and i know if i can do it then so can plenty of other people. After all of the years that challenge has been around, if no one has won, its due to the fact that they dont want a winner.

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Offline neptune

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Re: Telekinese forces proven...
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2011, 03:35:32 PM »
To succeed at one of those challenges , you have to prove to them that it is real . Your words . Incorrect . If you had read the fine print you would know that you have to prove it to an independent adjudicator acceptable to both parties . You are wriggling like a fish on a hook . OK if you can do telekinesis , complete a simple test for me .Next Saturday night , in the UK lottery , simply manipulate the balls as they fall ,and win the lottery .That way you do not have to convince any awkward adjudicators . I will even let you keep all the prize money .I can not be fairer than that , can I?

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Re: Telekinese forces proven...
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2011, 04:04:25 PM »
If we cant do that simple thing then hundreds of witnesses lied about Jesus.

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Offline neptune

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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2011, 07:34:02 PM »
@Nadda .Why not go ahead and apply for the James Randi Prize . You say that the reason the prize has not been won is that "They don't want a winner ." I put it to you that the real reason it has not been won is that no one has demonstrated paranormal abilities . Before you take the test , you will ask to say exactly what you claim you can do . Then , if you show you can do that , no more no less , you win . I do not have a closed mind ,I am willing to be shown . A Youtube video might be a start . My attitude is the same as Randis . "OK , so you can fly by flapping your arms . Come with me to the top window ." @Iota Yoda. There are also witnesses who swear they see fairies at the bottom of the garden , and a lot more recently than 2000 years ago .

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« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2011, 09:14:56 PM »
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There are also witnesses who swear they see fairies at the bottom of the garden , and a lot more recently than 2000 years
That would probably be in Ireland where they do a lot of drinking.  ;D

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Re: Telekinese forces proven...
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2011, 10:12:24 PM »
james randi spent his life hoaxing people and continues to do so with his "challenge"... ::)

edit: i already posted this video that presents randi's "challenge" in a most illuminating way. in point of fact, if i recall correctly i posted it for neptune when he previously posted his "take randi's challenge" challenge... ::) here it is again for those who haven't looked at the fine print of randi's farce.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE_UzmtUH7g

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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2011, 03:12:28 AM »
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To succeed at one of those challenges , you have to prove to them that it is real . Your words . Incorrect . If you had read the fine print you would know that you have to prove it to an independent adjudicator acceptable to both parties . You are wriggling like a fish on a hook . OK if you can do telekinesis , complete a simple test for me .Next Saturday night , in the UK lottery , simply manipulate the balls as they fall ,and win the lottery .That way you do not have to convince any awkward adjudicators . I will even let you keep all the prize money .I can not be fairer than that , can I?

Why would i need to "wriggle" lol? telekinesis is not a strong force and life is not an x-men movie. You simply dont understand how it works. So i will explain it. In the real world, unlike the movies, you cannot turn telekinesis on and turn it off. Once its on, it stays on. It affects all objects of the same weight. In my experience, objects will mimic what im thinking. I control the objects by focusing on my thoughts, and the objects follow along. You see, objects will follow along weather i realize they are or not. Someone could place a piece of paper on a needle behind me right now and it would instantly start spinning. I've done dozens of experiments and even recorded an object that continued to spin after i left the room. Imagine that, an object alone in a room with no air movement spinning back and forth. Furnace off, windows shut, door closed, no air flow. Yet the object moves. A static non biological object with no muscles no energy...all alone, moving. Its Amazing. I only discovered telekinesis was real four years ago. That recording i made was the only video i ever shot and it was two years ago.

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You say that the reason the prize has not been won is that "They don't want a winner ." I put it to you that the real reason it has not been won is that no one has demonstrated paranormal abilities.

Your wrong mate. Unfortunately im in a position of greater knowledge here than you are. The challenge has been at 1 million for 15 years, they've gotten so many applications that they have had to require preliminary proof before the challenge begins, I mean the application even has to be notarized lol. I could care less what you choose to believe, i know the truth, and i know millions of other people in the world can do what i can do. To say NONE of the over whelming numbers of applicants that applied were the real deal, especially after going through all that hoopla, has to be nonsense at best.

If i were wealthy i would fly you to a private setting and show you myself, unfortunately im not.

So in the end it doesnt matter to me what you believe, its sad to see someone close their mind when they have the exact same abilities, but none the less i gain nothing of any importance by spending my time convincing you on a forum. What would i gain by encouraging people to practice on their own spare time? What would i gain by spending my time on a forum lying? Its real weather you want to believe it or not. I dont expect you to understand. You havent seen what i have. Its up to you to change that.

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Re: Telekinese forces proven...
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2011, 03:29:20 AM »


Nadda why don't you take your talent down to the  and move the dice or the roulette ball.
keep your winnings under a 1000 bucks a day and you should escape notice.
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Offline neptune

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Re: Telekinese forces proven...
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2011, 07:38:54 PM »
@Iota Yodi  and fritznien .LOL . @Wilby You say Randi spent his life hoaxing people . Indeed he did .He is after all a professional Conjurer . That does not change his other career as an exposer of hoaxes .
 @Nadda .It has been said that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof . I do not totally discount the remote possibility that you can do what you say . You say that if you were wealthy you could prove it to me .[I am tempted to say you could become wealthy by winning the James Randi Prize , but I think I may have mentioned that previously!] If I claimed to be the son of God , would you believe me ? Proof of anything can be extraordinarily difficult . There are always numerous ways to fake things , remember Mylow? But without proof , we stray into the realm of faith based systems , in other words religion . Religion is the cause of half the wars on earth , oil being the cause of the rest . You say that you can influence electronics . Make a simple circuit of just a coil of wire connected across a microamp meter or even an LED . See if you can cause a current to flow . And Yes I know of several ways to fake that . A final question .You have worked hard to develop your alleged ability . Exactly why did you want this ability? Also , please note that although I may not believe you ,It does not mean that I have anything against you as a person .

Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: Telekinese forces proven...
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2011, 11:39:08 PM »
@ neptune, indeed he did. and indeed his "challenge" is a continuation of the same... ::)

regarding your "extraordinary claims require extra ordinary evidence": this is one of the most hopelessly flawed statements ever uttered. carl sagan was a brilliant man, but this statement of his is ludicrous. the problem with this statement is that popular science does not require extraordinary evidence for its extraordinary claims. ie:the big bang theory may be the most extraordinary claim in the history of popular science. here we have an idea that can be neatly encapsulated in eight words: "at first, there was nothing...then it exploded." now how can NOTHING explode? big bang theory "defies gravity" and violates innumerable laws of physics, it remains a HYPOTHETICAL mathematical model, yet it is promoted as truth by NASA and institutions of higher learning around the world. why has the mainstream never demanded the same standards of big bang theorists that it does of "paranormal" proponents?
 
where are the "double-blind tests" validating big bang theory? has big bang theory been tested by the james randi "educational" foundation or other skeptical organizations?

to be more precise, you should say: UNPOPULAR claims require extraordinary evidence. and make no mistake, that is what randi's science is... popular science. ::)

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Re: Telekinese forces proven...
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2011, 09:28:25 AM »
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